If the US became a monarchy?

[Southern Babylonia]

So, a hypothetical question for you guys:

Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.

1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?

2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?

3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?

4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?

Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.

Well, your move, NSG.

EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.

[Ashmoria]

I think a Koch brother would be elected. money talks, eh?

I think it should be the descendant of a great native American chief. the great grandson of Geronimo, crazy horse or Tecumseh.

[Lost heros]

So, a hypothetical question for you guys:

Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.

1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?

2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?

3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?

4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?

Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.

Well, your move, NSG.

EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.

1. Obama
2. I wouldn't even bother voting.
3. The monarchy wouldn't last, because no one wants it.
4. They would be like, "I guess I'm not voting for (insert name of current senator/representative) next election."

[Farnhamia]

I think a Koch brother would be elected. money talks, eh?

I think it should be the descendant of a great native American chief. the great grandson of Geronimo, crazy horse or Tecumseh.

Except the concept of a monarchy was kind of foreign to those great Native Americans.

[Legist Union]

I'm perfect for the job, I'm the only one who can remain silent for more than five minutes. I'll even refrain from taking all your rights, since I doubt I could accomplish it (let alone without empowering corruption).

[JAYMALL LAND]

I think a Koch brother would be elected. money talks, eh?

That's probably the best bet.

[Atorea]

Id be king......

[Blouman Empire]

I think a Koch brother would be elected. money talks, eh?

I think it should be the descendant of a great native American chief. the great grandson of Geronimo, crazy horse or Tecumseh.

Except the concept of a monarchy was kind of foreign to those great Native Americans.

So how were leaders determined?

[Lost heros]

Id be king......

I'd never elect a monarch who ignores the rules of grammar.

[Atorea]

Id be king......

I'd never elect a monarch who ignores the rules of grammar.

I'd be King. And I wont be elected *Maniac Smile.

[Placken]

The creation of an American monarch would be a difficult thing, many people, even those who adore Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth, are taught in school that Monarchy equals tyranny etc. http://www.historytoday.com/frank-prochaska/american-monarchy There are however some American monarchists, and they would desire a constitutional monarch like from Europe. Identity politics would play a part. More traditionalist monarchs might look to a European dynasty. I suspect that Catholics might support the Jacobite pretender: Franz, Duke of Bavaria. Blacks might support a member of an African dynasty (like that Nigerian Prince that keeps emailing?). If there was a politician who was universally seen as a Father of the Nation still alive, he might have a chance. A British Prince would be favoured by the WASPs.

You would have to change the executive branch a bit. If you don't want a parliamentary system, I guess you split the jobs of the president, between the vice-president (as President of the Senate) and the monarch. I suppose each state could also have a monarchy.

I like the Native chief idea (I see it as having broad appeal), if one candidate could be found that would stick out above the others. There is of course the Hawaiian Royal Family. Of course, this could be seen as giving to much power to a special interest group.

[Orthaethaczil]

The US is already ruled by the rich:

1. The rich own the media. While they dont control them openly and directly, they can hire and promote whoever represents their opinion best and fire whoever doesnt.

2. The media control to large amounts what the two parties do.

3. Thus the two parties do in large parts the same things under different rhetoric. Thanks to majority vote, other parties like the green party have no influence.

4. Also, there isnt a single important US politician that is NOT a millionaire.

-> The rich have all the power in the USA.

[Astograth]

Except the concept of a monarchy was kind of foreign to those great Native Americans.

So how were leaders determined?

Chiefdom, whether elected or hereditary, is not quite the same as a monarchy.

[Atorea]

LITTLE KNOWN FACT: USA almost had a monarch before the revoulutionary war, but he didnt want to come to USA.

[Constaniana]

We all know who would be crowned. Stephen Colbert.

[Everia]

You could always just separate the Presidency from Head of State and make that position Emperor and Empress.

[Lost heros]

I'd never elect a monarch who ignores the rules of grammar.

I'd be king ,and I won't be elected *Maniac Smile.

No king of mine will blatantly ignore the rules of grammar.

[Murbleflip]

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II should become joint monarch of the UK and the USA.

[Atorea]

I'd be king ,and I won't be elected *Maniac Smile.

No king of mine will blatantly ignore the rules of grammar.

I'd be a King. Also, I will not get elected. Also I am not your King.


King does not need to be capitalized, as long as its not God, or Jesus, we are good.

[Surfistan]

Emperor Norton II of these United States, Elected by His People, and Protector of their Liberties, joined by a double monarch, Tecumseh II, who shall rule all of the North, a King of the North if you wish.

[Placken]

The US is already ruled by the rich:

1. The rich own the media. While they dont control them openly and directly, they can hire and promote whoever represents their opinion best and fire whoever doesnt.

2. The media control to large amounts what the two parties do.

3. Thus the two parties do in large parts the same things under different rhetoric. Thanks to majority vote, other parties like the green party have no influence.

4. Also, there isnt a single important US politician that is NOT a millionaire.

-> The rich have all the power in the USA.

The Rich are a large group of people, the opposite of a monarchy. Are you saying Bill Gates should be King?

[Bezombia]

So, a hypothetical question for you guys:

Let's say it was declared tomorrow that the United States needed to become a constitutional monarchy, and everyone agreed to this proposition. Congress, the Senate, etc. would work the exact same way, the only difference being the position of a figurehead who could do nothing but give the royal seal of approval. In the end, they decided to allow every American to vote on who the first monarch would be. From that moment onwards, the position would be hereditary.

1. Now, supposing there was no voter fraud, who do you think would be elected to the office? Would it be a politician? A singer? An actor/actrice? Would this be the beginning of the Bradjolinian dynasty?

2. Regardless of whether or not you think they WOULD be elected, supposing you personally had to appoint one, who would it be? Would you at all be inclined to give yourself the position? If so, why would you want it?

3. Do you think, given a good degree of acceptance of the citizens of the US, that this monarchy could last? How do you think the international community would react? Would they want to influence the choice?

4. If it was simply decreed today, without any foregone conclusions about the general American population being more or less in favour of it, what do you think THEIR reaction would be? Would they be (obviously many would be) furious? Angered? Disconcerted? Apathetic? Content? Glad? Enthusiastic?

Personally, I have no idea who I think would be elected, or who would be best for a figurehead position. I'm of the opinion that their wouldn't be much of a kerfuffle internationally, but in the US, if it were simply declared right now, it'd definitely have huge consequences. That said, some of those into British royal pageantry and the viewing thereof might actually be really excited. Though I don't think it'd spark a civil war, I'm sure there'd be some armed resistance, somewhere. That said, I'm not American.

Well, your move, NSG.

EDIT: And no, for the record, I don't think this should happen. At least, not unless it also got many more people more interested in real politics.

1. Electorate Monarchy? That's a new one. Anyway, I really can't say.
2. Roger Waters. He (mostly) shares my political views and is a damn good musician.
3. No, poorly, yes.
4. Negative, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no.

[Regnum Dominae]

Goodbye California, hello Canada.

[Cetacea]

1. Electorate Monarchy? That's a new one. Anyway, I really can't say..

Nah Elected Monarchies is an old one and pretty common. Malaysia and Cambodia still use the system, William and Mary in England were appointed by Parliament too.

weren't the Kennedys classically described as American Royalty? Then theres Paul Washington the oldest living male descendant of almost King George Washington. My moneys on a business Tycoon however perhaps His Imperial Majesty Donald Trump Emperor of the United Commonwealth States of America or perhaps Her Imminence the Esteemed Empress Oprah, maybe even Warren Buffet

[Vazdania]

I'd vote for Distruzio.