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Should more nuclear power stations be built in the future?

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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:30 pm

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lmao oh jesus... :palm: there are two abbreviations.. RTG and RITEG.. google it hahaha :lol2:


I haven't seen RITEG written before. I haven't heard astronomers, when speaking of RTGs, say RITEG. And you clearly know little-to-fuckall about astronomy. Does that not make my assumption logical?


hm... idk maybe because they like to say RTG instead? :blink:

jesus christ here you go to..

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Radio-Isot ... tor-(RITEG).html

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:31 pm

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Yep. That they were


I feel like I should go to Chernobyl now. :meh:


Now I want to establish a religion that has Chernobyl as it's equivalent to Islams Mecca.

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:31 pm

Sapian wrote:
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I haven't seen RITEG written before. I haven't heard astronomers, when speaking of RTGs, say RITEG. And you clearly know little-to-fuckall about astronomy. Does that not make my assumption logical?


hm... idk maybe because they like to say RTG instead? :blink:

jesus christ here you go to..

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Radio-Isot ... tor-(RITEG).html


What's up with you and not answering my questions?

Nice 404 by the way. Thanks for the broken proof I never asked for!
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:33 pm

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Answers:
1. Why not both? much like we did with the moon and are planning to do with mars? :eyebrow: thats a weird question

2. Who said i couldn't be optimistic about astronomy? lol

whats up with your questions? :lol2:


1. So you're saying that we could send men to Pluto? Also, you're ignoring a key part of my original question: do you think we can go wherever WHENEVER?

2. You can be optimistic about astronomy. You're just being illogical in the process.

My questions actually have logic and are based on my knowledge and interest in science?


lol omg.. did i say something illogical like landing a person on the sun? hahaha

And maybe one day who knows? and i did answer that already :eyebrow:

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:35 pm

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1. So you're saying that we could send men to Pluto? Also, you're ignoring a key part of my original question: do you think we can go wherever WHENEVER?

2. You can be optimistic about astronomy. You're just being illogical in the process.

My questions actually have logic and are based on my knowledge and interest in science?


lol omg.. did i say something illogical like landing a person on the sun? hahaha

And maybe one day who knows? and i did answer that already :eyebrow:


You said something perfectly illogical - that we could land humans wherever we want. And you didn't answer the 'whenever' part.
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:36 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
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hm... idk maybe because they like to say RTG instead? :blink:

jesus christ here you go to..

http://www.acronymfinder.com/Radio-Isot ... tor-(RITEG).html


What's up with you and not answering my questions?

Nice 404 by the way. Thanks for the broken proof I never asked for!


are you saying the link didn't work.. okay here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisoto ... _generator

and so... i couldn't prove that there was nothing wrong with what i said? lol :lol2:

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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:38 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Sapian wrote:
lol omg.. did i say something illogical like landing a person on the sun? hahaha

And maybe one day who knows? and i did answer that already :eyebrow:


You said something perfectly illogical - that we could land humans wherever we want. And you didn't answer the 'whenever' part.


hahaha.. oh lord.. when did i say we can land humans wherever?

and in do time anything is possible.. satisfied with that answer then? or are you going to continue to say that im still not getting something?

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:38 pm

Sapian wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
What's up with you and not answering my questions?

Nice 404 by the way. Thanks for the broken proof I never asked for!


are you saying the link didn't work.. okay here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisoto ... _generator

and so... i couldn't prove that there was nothing wrong with what i said? lol :lol2:


It's so fun to argue with someone who has no idea what they're talking about, basically ignores the point of everything you say, and posts incomprehensible crap!

Read what I said. I asked if my assumption was logical. Answer that question.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:39 pm

The Corparation wrote:
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Just like Chernobyl and Fukushima. Too risky imo
Fukishima weathered a 9.0 Earthquake intact with all safety systems working flawlessly. The only reason that it failed was because the emergency generators were in the basement and got trashed by the tsunami.

No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.
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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:40 pm

Sapian wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
You said something perfectly illogical - that we could land humans wherever we want. And you didn't answer the 'whenever' part.


hahaha.. oh lord.. when did i say we can land humans wherever?

and in do time anything is possible.. satisfied with that answer then? or are you going to continue to say that im still not getting something?


Yes, I'm going to say that, because you really aren't. Do you believe that we could, at this very second, launch a probe to Mars? What about in 10 years? What about 100 years? And I'm NOT talking about technological advancement.
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:41 pm

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No different than, a dam bursting, or a coal power plant exploding


I have no idea where people get this idea I support fossil fuels.


You know of global warming correct?
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:41 pm

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are you saying the link didn't work.. okay here you go

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisoto ... _generator

and so... i couldn't prove that there was nothing wrong with what i said? lol :lol2:


It's so fun to argue with someone who has no idea what they're talking about, basically ignores the point of everything you say, and posts incomprehensible crap!


Read what I said. I asked if my assumption was logical. Answer that question.


lol yes i will say that is pretty fun! :lol:

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:42 pm

Saint Kitten wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
I have no idea where people get this idea I support fossil fuels.


You know of global warming correct?


What does this have to do with anything? Yes, of course.
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:44 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
Sapian wrote:
hahaha.. oh lord.. when did i say we can land humans wherever?

and in do time anything is possible.. satisfied with that answer then? or are you going to continue to say that im still not getting something?


Yes, I'm going to say that, because you really aren't. Do you believe that we could, at this very second, launch a probe to Mars? What about in 10 years? What about 100 years? And I'm NOT talking about technological advancement.


Not at this second.. that would be weird, you would need to do a lot more before just launching something into space :lol2:

and... so then what are you talking about? :eyebrow:

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:46 pm

Sapian wrote:
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Yes, I'm going to say that, because you really aren't. Do you believe that we could, at this very second, launch a probe to Mars? What about in 10 years? What about 100 years? And I'm NOT talking about technological advancement.


Not at this second.. that would be weird, you would need to do a lot more before just launching something into space :lol2:

and... so then what are you talking about? :eyebrow:


I'm saying that phase angles are important when launching a craft. Launch windows are fleeting.
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Postby Skrewalkers » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:47 pm

NERVUN wrote:No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.


Actually, the U.S. National Rifle Association did release the following statement:

"Once again, we see that the gun grabbers in Japan, whose barbaric and near total prohibition of firearms has left Japan a crime-ridden demilitarized zone of drug addicts and non-Christians, only succeeded in denying an innocent Reactor in its own nuclear power plant to be raped and killed by an earthquake. If that reactor had a simple AR-15 or even just a Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun, that earthquake could have been stopped at the door, or more likely deterred completely by the fear of an armed reactor. Look closely, America: Do you want your family raped and killed by a Tsunami?"

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:48 pm

NERVUN wrote:
The Corparation wrote:Fukishima weathered a 9.0 Earthquake intact with all safety systems working flawlessly. The only reason that it failed was because the emergency generators were in the basement and got trashed by the tsunami.

No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.


A 9.0 is kinda the hand of god (And that's coming from an atheist) 1 meltdown out of what? 4 reactors is a testemont.
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:48 pm

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Not at this second.. that would be weird, you would need to do a lot more before just launching something into space :lol2:

and... so then what are you talking about? :eyebrow:


I'm saying that phase angles are important when launching a craft. Launch windows are fleeting.


and yes.. thank you for saying something i was pretty aware of.. what does that have to do with what you were asking me? :palm:
lol you said that the things i was saying are incomprehensible..

but your questions have no real goal do they? :rofl:
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:49 pm

Skrewalkers wrote:
NERVUN wrote:No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.


Actually, the U.S. National Rifle Association did release the following statement:

"Once again, we see that the gun grabbers in Japan, whose barbaric and near total prohibition of firearms has left Japan a crime-ridden demilitarized zone of drug addicts and non-Christians, only succeeded in denying an innocent Reactor in its own nuclear power plant to be raped and killed by an earthquake. If that reactor had a simple AR-15 or even just a Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun, that earthquake could have been stopped at the door, or more likely deterred completely by the fear of an armed reactor. Look closely, America: Do you want your family raped and killed by a Tsunami?"


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Postby Anachronous Rex » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:49 pm

Sapian wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
I'm saying that phase angles are important when launching a craft. Launch windows are fleeting.


lol you said that the things i was saying are incomprehensible..

but your questions have no real goal do they? :rofl:

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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:53 pm

Sapian wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:
I'm saying that phase angles are important when launching a craft. Launch windows are fleeting.


lol you said that the things i was saying are incomprehensible..

but your questions have no real goal do they? :rofl:


Nope, I just wanted to prove definitively that you know nothing about astronomy. And if you did, you'd have understood it. That's a purpose and a half.

The phase angle of an orbit is the angle of a planet relative to you, where the Sun is the centre, and lines are drawn from Earth and the planet in question to create an angle. For every planet, there's an optimal phase angle.

Nice edit to try and make yourself look smart. Anyway, I refuse to perpetuate a threadjack with someone who has no idea what they're talking about. Let's get back on topic.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:53 pm

Here's the problem I have with nuclear power, when it screws up (And yes I read the bloody thread) the effects last a very, VERY long time. Governments rarely think about that kind of timescale and as TEPCO is so wonderfully proving, private businesses are incapable of it at all. Yes, you're gonna trot out the stats and all, but I can trot out a couple of things too. These are power plants run by companies, who put profits above all else. TEPCO knew damn well about the chance of a large earthquake and tsunami, but it decided that to quakeproof Fukushima Daiichi would be bad for profits, so it didn't do it. It knew there were leaks, but decided that admitting that would also be bad for profits. Other utilities in Japan are currently screaming bloody murder to get their reactors restarted as their profits are taking a hit, even going so far as to challenge the NRA's new safety standards because a number of the reactors are now in violation (Actually a number of reactors are in violation of the old standards as well). And yet I'm supposed to trust the guys who are worried more about next quarter's profits to run something that if it goes boom will poison the land for the next couple thousand years and even if it goes right produces waste that will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of years?

No. It might be safe, but the people running it are human and all too fallible for the usual reasons humans are. TEPCO can bow and apologize as many times as it wants to, but that doesn't change the fact that Fukushima Daiichi, Fukushima-ken, Tohoku, and all of Japan are going to have to deal with this for a very, very long time. If you have a way to fix humans now... I'll listen.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:54 pm

Skrewalkers wrote:
NERVUN wrote:No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.


Actually, the U.S. National Rifle Association did release the following statement:

"Once again, we see that the gun grabbers in Japan, whose barbaric and near total prohibition of firearms has left Japan a crime-ridden demilitarized zone of drug addicts and non-Christians, only succeeded in denying an innocent Reactor in its own nuclear power plant to be raped and killed by an earthquake. If that reactor had a simple AR-15 or even just a Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun, that earthquake could have been stopped at the door, or more likely deterred completely by the fear of an armed reactor. Look closely, America: Do you want your family raped and killed by a Tsunami?"

Come closer so that I may properly beat you about the head and shoulders with a dead cod. :p
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:55 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
NERVUN wrote:No, the NRA (That's Japan's new nuclear regulatory agency, not the American gun nuts) has concluded that quite likely the earthquake trashed Fukushima Daiichi and even without the tsunami, there would have been a meltdown in at least Reactor number 1.


A 9.0 is kinda the hand of god (And that's coming from an atheist) 1 meltdown out of what? 4 reactors is a testemont.

6 at the Daiichi plant, four of which melted down.

And TEPCO knew of the risk ahead of time.
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Postby Sapian » Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:58 pm

Slafstopia wrote:
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lol you said that the things i was saying are incomprehensible..

but your questions have no real goal do they? :rofl:


Nope, I just wanted to prove definitively that you know nothing about astronomy. And if you did, you'd have understood it. That's a purpose and a half.

The phase angle of an orbit is the angle of a planet relative to you, where the Sun is the centre, and lines are drawn from Earth and the planet in question to create an angle. For every planet, there's an optimal phase angle.

Nice edit to try and make yourself look smart. Anyway, I refuse to perpetuate a threadjack with someone who has no idea what they're talking about. Let's get back on topic.


yes i made myself look sooo smart didn't i? but yes please lets get back to what this thread is actually about.. like the first post i posted.. before.. three people damned my ideal vision of nuclear energy :)

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