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Postby Bodobol » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:39 am

God Kefka wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Personal anecdotes don't stand as proof. Sources, dear sir, sources.


They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science


That's actually one of the most closed-minded things I've ever heard.
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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:47 am

God Kefka wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Personal anecdotes don't stand as proof. Sources, dear sir, sources.


They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science

Ironically, what you said is not open-minded at all. Also, words actually have proper meanings and when you use words, you have to use them properly:
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a : the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact
b : the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning
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obsolete : experience
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: something that induces certainty or establishes validity
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archaic : the quality or state of having been tested or tried; especially : unyielding hardness
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: evidence operating to determine the finding or judgment of a tribunal
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a plural proofs or proof : a copy (as of typeset text) made for examination or correction
b : a test impression of an engraving, etching, or lithograph
c : a coin that is struck from a highly polished die on a polished planchet, is not intended for circulation, and sometimes differs in metallic content from coins of identical design struck for circulation
d : a test photographic print made from a negative
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: a test applied to articles or substances to determine whether they are of standard or satisfactory quality
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a : the minimum alcoholic strength of proof spirit
b : strength with reference to the standard for proof spirit; specifically : alcoholic strength indicated by a number that is twice the percent by volume of alcohol present <whiskey of 90 proof is 45 percent alcohol>

Sorry bud, that certainly doesn't even qualify as proof.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:47 am

God Kefka wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Personal anecdotes don't stand as proof. Sources, dear sir, sources.


They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science


I am sorry Kefka. Upon further review of this incident:

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well? If medicine is to be ignored then why do we have Luke?


What does Skywalker have to do with this?

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Postby Smoya » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:49 am

I don't see why some people are blaming religion...
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:50 am

Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...


Faith healing is not religious inspired? :blink:
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Postby Divair » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:50 am

Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...

Why else does faith healing exist?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:50 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...


Faith healing is not religious inspired? :blink:

Depends on the type.
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Postby Smoya » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:50 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...


Faith healing is not religious inspired? :blink:

Yes, it was the church...but that doesn't mean every faith healing gives you measles.
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Postby South American Indochina » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:51 am

God Kefka wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Personal anecdotes don't stand as proof. Sources, dear sir, sources.


They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science

So, magic is more credible than empirical evidence?
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Postby Benuty » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:51 am

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Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...

Why else does faith healing exist?


To prove bloodletting is insanity.
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Postby South American Indochina » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:52 am

Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...

For something to make people believe malpractice heals people and proper practice that actually heals people is heresy, what else is to blame?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:52 am

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Faith healing is not religious inspired? :blink:

Yes, it was the church...but that doesn't mean every faith healing gives you measles.


When they add the part about vaccinations being bad does.......
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:53 am

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They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science

So, magic is more credible than empirical evidence?


Of course it is.

Haven't you read Harry Potter?
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 am

Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...

Is there such a thing as non-religious faith healing?
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Smoya wrote:Yes, it was the church...but that doesn't mean every faith healing gives you measles.


When they add the part about vaccinations being bad does.......


Because of a certain doctor who deceived millions with false evidence and a theory ( now proven false) about autism coming from vaccinations.
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Postby Bodobol » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 am

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South American Indochina wrote:So, magic is more credible than empirical evidence?


Of course it is.

Haven't you read Harry Potter?


Of course I have. And like 90% of the deaths were magic-related.
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Of course it is.

Haven't you read Harry Potter?


Of course I have. And like 90% of the deaths were magic-related.


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Smoya wrote:I don't see why some people are blaming religion...

Is there such a thing as non-religious faith healing?


You might want to look for the new age hippies they are over there :arrow:.
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Smoya wrote:Yes, it was the church...but that doesn't mean every faith healing gives you measles.


When they add the part about vaccinations being bad does.......

Or when the pastor says, "So I'm going to tell you what the facts are, and the facts are the facts, but then we know the truth. That always overcomes facts."
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When they add the part about vaccinations being bad does.......


Because of a certain doctor who deceived millions with false evidence and a theory ( now proven false) about autism coming from vaccinations.


Even in the mentioned incident; copelands daughter didn't come out in support. Gave this gabled talk about science and god. I suspect in time; they will return to vaccination being bad.....
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When they add the part about vaccinations being bad does.......

Or when the pastor says, "So I'm going to tell you what the facts are, and the facts are the facts, but then we know the truth. That always overcomes facts."


:) I still do a :blink: when I read that.
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South American Indochina wrote:So, magic is more credible than empirical evidence?


Of course it is.

Haven't you read Harry Potter?

Harry Potter is stupid and so is magic. There, I just did an ad hominem on you. HA.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:01 am

God Kefka wrote:
Stern des Meeres wrote:Personal anecdotes don't stand as proof. Sources, dear sir, sources.


They do stand as proof. If you saw them you would believe too... just need to be open-minded about how the world works.

Supernatural things > science

Except you take it to being so open-minded that you'll accept any bullshit at the drop of a hat.
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Postby Lost heros » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:24 am

South American Indochina wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Of course it is.

Haven't you read Harry Potter?

Harry Potter is stupid and so is magic. There, I just did an ad hominem on you. HA.

How dare you insult Harry Potter! He saved the world.
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Postby God Kefka » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:27 am

It's not my fault many of you aren't open to the possibility that faith healing can work and that sometimes God does intervene and show us miracles...

It's sad really.

I see that there's no convincing people with narrow views... I've seen plenty of things in my life that are better explained by religion or magic than science... I'm sure listing them won't convince anyone.

Just think of this way... science bestows us with the tools to measure the laws of the natural world. It is restricted to the natural world and being a man-made tools, has serious limitations.

It can never hope to comprehend the supernatural in a manner that is ''scientific''... It doesn't work like that. There are things that are out of the reach of science...
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