Ahh faith healing.

[Neo Rome Republic]

If it's invoking magic and blind emotion, yes it is.

Religion and spirituality do not inherently cause either of those things.

They sure use 'em.

[Solaray]

Wait what? That's news to me, although, now that I think about it…
Does it have something to do with the people accepting death more easily because they feel that they;d be entering a better place, and therefore, have less will to fight through the disease?

It isn't clear what the exact cause is.

Well, not really, unless I'm missing something. Adding in prayer to a standard medical procedure shouldn't cause any negative effects from my understanding.

[Utceforp]

If you are literally admitting to me that you prefer magic (spirituality) over logic, than I have no other business arguing with you. I feel sorry for you.

Magic is not anything near the same as spirituality. I feel sorry for you for assuming that. It likely means you have little to no spirituality.

I'm fine with having no spirituality. It just means that I understand the universe slightly more than you.

[Wisconsin9]

Faith healing should be banned.

[Utceforp]

Faith healing should be banned.

You don't say?

[Solaray]

Religion and spirituality do not inherently cause either of those things.

They sure use 'em.

Correction. Certain, more radical members of faiths may use them. But religion and spirituality do not inherently advocate radical blind emotion or magic.

[Neo Rome Republic]

They sure use 'em.

Correction. Certain, more radical members of faiths may use them. But religion and spirituality do not inherently advocate radical blind emotion or magic.

They do, It's in their books.

[God Kefka]

Faith healing should be banned.

That would be an infringement on the freedom of religion....

So no.

[Solaray]

Magic is not anything near the same as spirituality. I feel sorry for you for assuming that. It likely means you have little to no spirituality.

I'm fine with having no spirituality. It just means that I understand the universe slightly more than you.

Yeah okay, whatever, you're just being blindly arrogant now.

[Mavorpen]

It isn't clear what the exact cause is.

Well, not really, unless I'm missing something. Adding in prayer to a standard medical procedure shouldn't cause any negative effects from my understanding.

Whether it shouldn't is wholly irrelevant. Though, if you do pray for them, don't actually tell them. It seems that the patients that know others are praying for them experience the largest amount of complications.

[Utceforp]

They sure use 'em.

Correction. Certain, more radical members of faiths may use them. But religion and spirituality do not inherently advocate radical blind emotion or magic.

How is the belief in an omnipotent, omniscient being without any attempts to explain the omnipotence and omniscience of said being anything less than blind faith and the belief in magic?

[Neo-Assyrian Empire]

Or you prefer spirituality and logic. Just because one believes in a diety doesn't mean that one simply stops using logic

Yes, yes it does.

So, does that mean Sir Isaac Newton decided to stop using logic while writting the Laws of Motion? Does that mean that Albert Einstein stopped using logic while comming up with the Theory of Relativity? No. Once again, because someone believes in a deity doesn't mean that they simply throw logic out the window

[Katganistan]

I have faith.....


in vaccination.

Thank you Kat

My pleasure.

If the Lord didn't want us to use our God-given intelligence, He wouldn't have given it to us.
And if the Lord didn't want us to use medicine, then why is this in the Bible:

Proverbs 17:22

22 A cheerful heart is good medicine,

but a crushedn spirit dries up the bones.o

among other quotations (such as Physician, heal thyself!) which show medicine and doctors in a positive light.

It reminds me of an old joke: a terrible storm begins to cause flooding, and the police come door to door in Jeeps, telling people to come with them to safety. An old man named Joe tells them to go on, rescue others -- he has faith that God will save him.

Later that day, the waters have risen, and some people in a motorboat come by asking him to come with them. "Go on, I'll be fine: God will save me."

By the afternoon the man is stranded on the roof of his house, and a helicopter came by, and the people in it begged him to come. "Save others," the man said, "I have faith that God will save me."

In the evening, the waters engulf his house, and the man dies.

As he stands before the Pearly Gates, he cries out in anguish, "God, I had faith in you! Why did you not save me?"

"Joe," says a booming disembodied voice, "I sent you a Jeep, a motorboat and a helicopter! What else did you want from Me?

[Wisconsin9]

Faith healing should be banned.

That would be an infringement on the freedom of religion....

So no.

Faith healing is a direct threat to the public well-being.

[The Serbian Empire]

I am strongly against faith healing. Why? Well, I am a wonder of modern medicine who probably wouldn't be alive otherwise.

Pretty much anyone born has need help from modern medicine so in a sense this whole abstaining of modern medicine is a tad bit hypocritical.

Well, I'd have been dead long ago.

[Solaray]

Correction. Certain, more radical members of faiths may use them. But religion and spirituality do not inherently advocate radical blind emotion or magic.

They do, It's in their books.

It depends on what you consider blind emotion. If you mean a happiness and assurance in a belief, then yes. But if you mean radical fundamentalism and arrogance, then no, at least not in Christianity, which advocates being humble and friendly.

[God Kefka]

That would be an infringement on the freedom of religion....

So no.

Faith healing is a direct threat to the public well-being.

Healing people through prayer is a treat to the public well-being?

[Edlichbury]

Faith healing should be banned.

That would be an infringement on the freedom of religion....

So no.

Your freedom of religion gives you no right to cause death by your religiously-affiliated actions.

[Utceforp]

Faith healing should be banned.

That would be an infringement on the freedom of religion....

So no.

Denying children life-saving medicine is worse than infringing on someone's "right" to deny children life-saving medicine. Faith healing should be banned.

[Neo Rome Republic]

They do, It's in their books.

It depends on what you consider blind emotion. If you mean a happiness and assurance in a belief, then yes. But if you mean radical fundamentalism and arrogance, then no, at least not in Christianity, which advocates being humble and friendly.

Depends on the denomination, they still invoke magic however. By doing so deny logic, hence blind emotion and wishful thinking.

[Solaray]

Correction. Certain, more radical members of faiths may use them. But religion and spirituality do not inherently advocate radical blind emotion or magic.

How is the belief in an omnipotent, omniscient being without any attempts to explain the omnipotence and omniscience of said being anything less than blind faith and the belief in magic?

It is faith, which is not a bad thing. And you're just being nonsensical with the magic business.

[Wisconsin9]

Faith healing is a direct threat to the public well-being.

Healing people through prayer is a treat to the public well-being?

Considering that it doesn't actually work, and that infectious diseases are, y'know, infectious? Yes.

[Solaray]

It depends on what you consider blind emotion. If you mean a happiness and assurance in a belief, then yes. But if you mean radical fundamentalism and arrogance, then no, at least not in Christianity, which advocates being humble and friendly.

Depends on the denomination, they still invoke magic however.

Not really. From an atheist's viewpoint, maybe, but to a religious person it's just faith.

[Utceforp]

How is the belief in an omnipotent, omniscient being without any attempts to explain the omnipotence and omniscience of said being anything less than blind faith and the belief in magic?

It is faith, which is not a bad thing. And you're just being nonsensical with the magic business.

Faith is an awful thing. You believe that God can do things without any explanation. AKA magic.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Depends on the denomination, they still invoke magic however.

Not really. From an atheist's viewpoint, maybe, but to a religious person it's just faith.

If you believe in supernatural acts you believe in magic, end of story. Blind faith is bad, it's naive.