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Postby Nevanmaa » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:30 am

Apparently, some people seem to see racism in everything.

A Dunkin' Donuts ad for "charcoal donuts" in Thailand had to be taken down after some liberals in America amazingly managed to saw racism in a woman with a dark skin holding a donut. No Thai person complained about the ad; the entire outrage came from tens of thousands of miles away from America and Europe. Dunkin' Donuts chief executive in Thailand defended the campaign, but was eventually forced to stop the ad campaign after realizing that the horde of Westerners screaming "RACISM" couldn't be stopped.

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/a ... -blackface

Aaand here's the ad itself:
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I personally think thereiss absolutely nothing racist in that ad, and the fact that only complaints about the ad came from some feel-good liberals on the other side of the world verifies that fact. It's unfortunate that Dunkin' Donuts had to bow down to liberal pressure, and it's even more unfortunate that nowadays a woman painted black is considered racist. "Racism" as a word is suffering inflation because of ridiculous things like this.
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Postby DogDoo 7 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:33 am

wait, its not an actual black woman but a woman painted black?
that's pretty racist...
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Postby Yehuddah » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:34 am

Seriously? :palm:
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:34 am

I think you, Hippo, need to quit embarrassing yourself with "DA LIBRULS" bullshit.

It's fucking stupid as hell, and you need to get over the fact that other people think differently from you.

Now, whether or not this ad is racist really doesn't matter much to me. I don't care.

What matters is the bullshit that you spew nearly every time you post. Just stop.
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Postby New Aerios » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:35 am

Well, this is ridiculous! Bloody liberals, calling everything ra...

Oh. It's Hippo.

This is gonna be another of his race-baiting threads, then. Like that one where he said "Obama wants teachers to let black students get away with bad behaviour".
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:36 am

Black face is not good for a global corporation's image, regardless of where it's being advertized.

The fact that Thailand is insensitive about the history of blackface is irrelevant. This corporation is acting to protect its image, and you're fucking complaining. I thought you liked capitalism...
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Postby Yehuddah » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:36 am

New Aerios wrote:Well, this is ridiculous! Bloody liberals, calling everything ra...

Oh. It's Hippo.

This is gonna be another of his race-baiting threads, then. Like that one where he said "Obama wants teachers to let black students get away with bad behaviour".

It's not about the OP but the issue.
I don't see racism there.
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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:36 am

It's not so much that the woman was painted black - it's that her makeup imitated the theatrical traditional 'blackface' makeup from minstrel shows and such, which was used in the old days of segregation by white actors to make black people look goofy and below white people, with extremely dark faces and big, pink lips. This is, unfortunately, still rather common in eastern countries such as Thailand and Japan. Honestly, I'm a huge liberal and I wouldn't have minded it if she was charcoal black all-over. The pink lips, however, made it obviously an imitation of blackface.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:36 am

DogDoo 7 wrote:wait, its not an actual black woman but a woman painted black?
that's pretty racist...

The thing is that she's not supposed to represent a black woman. Hell, even her nails are painted black.

Her skin is like charcoal and the pink lips make it stand out. It's an excellent and a very effective ad, few basic colors make it very eye-catching.
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Postby Surfistan » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:36 am

Well, blackface mimicking is considered racist in the US, hence racist.


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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:37 am

Yeah, kinda racist...
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:38 am

Oh, yeah.

The blackface is kinda an issue.
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Postby Yehuddah » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:38 am

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Yeah, kinda racist...

In what way?
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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:38 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
DogDoo 7 wrote:wait, its not an actual black woman but a woman painted black?
that's pretty racist...

The thing is that she's not supposed to represent a black woman. Hell, even her nails are painted black.

Her skin is like charcoal and the pink lips make it stand out. It's an excellent and a very effective ad, few basic colors make it very eye-catching.


Except the pink lips make it obviously an imitation of blackface makeup, which has rather negative connotations, because actors wearing blackface were trying to make African-Americans look as ridiculous as possible, by acting weirdly and flamboyantly, or dressing in drag. I, as a BLEEDING HART EVUL LIBRUHL, wouldn't actually find it racist if not for the pink lips.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:39 am

Even though they might not have realized it, there is the whole blackface thing going on.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:39 am

Slafstopia wrote:It's not so much that the woman was painted black - it's that her makeup imitated the theatrical traditional 'blackface' makeup from minstrel shows and such, which was used in the old days of segregation by white actors to make black people look goofy and below white people, with extremely dark faces and big, pink lips. This is, unfortunately, still rather common in eastern countries such as Thailand and Japan. Honestly, I'm a huge liberal and I wouldn't have minded it if she was charcoal black all-over. The pink lips, however, made it obviously an imitation of blackface.

I'm glad that the political correctness hasn't infiltrated most Asian nations yet. If you can't handle white people painted black, then boo hoo, learn to deal with it. The world doesn't revolve around a few sensitive people's feelings.

As I said, the combination of a very few basic colors and unique style make it a great ad from a marketing perspective. Had the woman been depicted without pink lips, the ad would've been much less eye-catching. The pink lips create sharp contrast between the dark skin and make it very noticeable.

From a marketing perspective, it's a great ad.
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Postby Yehuddah » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:40 am

Slafstopia wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:The thing is that she's not supposed to represent a black woman. Hell, even her nails are painted black.

Her skin is like charcoal and the pink lips make it stand out. It's an excellent and a very effective ad, few basic colors make it very eye-catching.


Except the pink lips make it obviously an imitation of blackface makeup, which has rather negative connotations, because actors wearing blackface were trying to make African-Americans look as ridiculous as possible, by acting weirdly and flamboyantly, or dressing in drag. I, as a BLEEDING HART EVUL LIBRUHL, wouldn't actually find it racist if not for the pink lips.

You don't make any sense.
Just because of pink lips it is racist? Wow.
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Postby Blasveck » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:40 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:It's not so much that the woman was painted black - it's that her makeup imitated the theatrical traditional 'blackface' makeup from minstrel shows and such, which was used in the old days of segregation by white actors to make black people look goofy and below white people, with extremely dark faces and big, pink lips. This is, unfortunately, still rather common in eastern countries such as Thailand and Japan. Honestly, I'm a huge liberal and I wouldn't have minded it if she was charcoal black all-over. The pink lips, however, made it obviously an imitation of blackface.

I'm glad that the political correctness hasn't infiltrated most Asian nations yet. If you can't handle white people painted black, then boo hoo, learn to deal with it. The world doesn't revolve around a few sensitive people's feelings.

As I said, the combination of a very few basic colors and unique style make it a great ad from a marketing perspective. Had the woman been depicted without pink lips, the ad would've been much less eye-catching. The pink lips create sharp contrast between the dark skin and make it very noticeable.

From a marketing perspective, it's a great ad.


And from a historical perspective, it's akin to blackface.
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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:41 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:It's not so much that the woman was painted black - it's that her makeup imitated the theatrical traditional 'blackface' makeup from minstrel shows and such, which was used in the old days of segregation by white actors to make black people look goofy and below white people, with extremely dark faces and big, pink lips. This is, unfortunately, still rather common in eastern countries such as Thailand and Japan. Honestly, I'm a huge liberal and I wouldn't have minded it if she was charcoal black all-over. The pink lips, however, made it obviously an imitation of blackface.

I'm glad that the political correctness hasn't infiltrated most Asian nations yet. If you can't handle white people painted black, then boo hoo, learn to deal with it. The world doesn't revolve around a few sensitive people's feelings.

As I said, the combination of a very few basic colors and unique style make it a great ad from a marketing perspective. Had the woman been depicted without pink lips, the ad would've been much less eye-catching. The pink lips create sharp contrast between the dark skin and make it very noticeable.

From a marketing perspective, it's a great ad.


They could have picked any other colour. There are plenty of colours that contrast just as much as pink against black, just as neon green and white. I don't support the ad being taken down, I just think it should be made less similar to theatrical blackface.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:42 am

Slafstopia wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:The thing is that she's not supposed to represent a black woman. Hell, even her nails are painted black.

Her skin is like charcoal and the pink lips make it stand out. It's an excellent and a very effective ad, few basic colors make it very eye-catching.


Except the pink lips make it obviously an imitation of blackface makeup, which has rather negative connotations, because actors wearing blackface were trying to make African-Americans look as ridiculous as possible, by acting weirdly and flamboyantly, or dressing in drag. I, as a BLEEDING HART EVUL LIBRUHL, wouldn't actually find it racist if not for the pink lips.

Oh, so blacks should always be portrayed in a positive light? Nothing that could make fun of them or insult them should be allowed, right? Maybe we should start banning all kinds of humor that make fun of white people as well. Oh how nice it would be, nobody's feelings would be hurt!

Some Thai could start an ad campaign with stereotypical sassy black ladies and ghetto gangsters, why would it matter? There are like three people of African descent in the whole country anyway, and I'm pretty sure they could handle it.
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Postby DogDoo 7 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:42 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
Slafstopia wrote:It's not so much that the woman was painted black - it's that her makeup imitated the theatrical traditional 'blackface' makeup from minstrel shows and such, which was used in the old days of segregation by white actors to make black people look goofy and below white people, with extremely dark faces and big, pink lips. This is, unfortunately, still rather common in eastern countries such as Thailand and Japan. Honestly, I'm a huge liberal and I wouldn't have minded it if she was charcoal black all-over. The pink lips, however, made it obviously an imitation of blackface.

I'm glad that the political correctness hasn't infiltrated most Asian nations yet. If you can't handle white people painted black, then boo hoo, learn to deal with it. The world doesn't revolve around a few sensitive people's feelings.

As I said, the combination of a very few basic colors and unique style make it a great ad from a marketing perspective. Had the woman been depicted without pink lips, the ad would've been much less eye-catching. The pink lips create sharp contrast between the dark skin and make it very noticeable.

From a marketing perspective, it's a great ad.

If a Thai company made that ad in Thailand, then they could probably get away with it. But an MNC definitely cannot.
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Except the pink lips make it obviously an imitation of blackface makeup, which has rather negative connotations, because actors wearing blackface were trying to make African-Americans look as ridiculous as possible, by acting weirdly and flamboyantly, or dressing in drag. I, as a BLEEDING HART EVUL LIBRUHL, wouldn't actually find it racist if not for the pink lips.

You don't make any sense.
Just because of pink lips it is racist? Wow.


I make plenty of sense. If her lips had been black too, or had been some other contrasting colour, far less people would have complained that it was racist, because it wouldn't be as similar to blackface.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:44 am

Slafstopia wrote:
Nevanmaa wrote:I'm glad that the political correctness hasn't infiltrated most Asian nations yet. If you can't handle white people painted black, then boo hoo, learn to deal with it. The world doesn't revolve around a few sensitive people's feelings.

As I said, the combination of a very few basic colors and unique style make it a great ad from a marketing perspective. Had the woman been depicted without pink lips, the ad would've been much less eye-catching. The pink lips create sharp contrast between the dark skin and make it very noticeable.

From a marketing perspective, it's a great ad.


They could have picked any other colour. There are plenty of colours that contrast just as much as pink against black, just as neon green and white. I don't support the ad being taken down, I just think it should be made less similar to theatrical blackface.

Why? The color of human lips is quite often pink. Just because the color pink on a black face makes some self-hating white liberals feel guilty, it doesn't mean that it's racist. I guarantee that if you show this ad to an average person, he won't give a fuck, considering that this campaign only took place in Thailand.
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Postby Yehuddah » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:45 am

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Yehuddah wrote:You don't make any sense.
Just because of pink lips it is racist? Wow.


I make plenty of sense. If her lips had been black too, or had been some other contrasting colour, far less people would have complained that it was racist, because it wouldn't be as similar to blackface.

Precisely, it is SIMILAR, it isn't blackface therefore your argument is invalid.
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Postby Slafstopia » Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:46 am

Nevanmaa wrote:
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Except the pink lips make it obviously an imitation of blackface makeup, which has rather negative connotations, because actors wearing blackface were trying to make African-Americans look as ridiculous as possible, by acting weirdly and flamboyantly, or dressing in drag. I, as a BLEEDING HART EVUL LIBRUHL, wouldn't actually find it racist if not for the pink lips.

Oh, so blacks should always be portrayed in a positive light? Nothing that could make fun of them or insult them should be allowed, right? Maybe we should start banning all kinds of humor that make fun of white people as well. Oh how nice it would be, nobody's feelings would be hurt!

Some Thai could start an ad campaign with stereotypical sassy black ladies and ghetto gangsters, why would it matter? There are like three people of African descent in the whole country anyway, and I'm pretty sure they could handle it.


Everyone should be portrayed in a positive light unless they've committed a serious crime or they're just kind of an asshole. And since when was this humour to make fun of black people? It's just an advert with slight racist connotations.

Stereotypical sassy black ladies and ghetto gangsters have far less to do with segregation than blackface. I wouldn't support that ad campaign being taken down either. As I've said, I just think it should be edited slightly.
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Socio-economic Quiz: Anarchism 100%, Marxism 92%, Democratic Socialism 92%
Economic Quiz: Ghandian 100%
Alignment: Chaotic Evil


Slavyukriy, by Ceni.
Officially, Slafstopia is Lyapzem.

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