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Why are you atheist?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:45 pm

Because I don't like any of the established religions
13
3%
Religions are corrupt
35
9%
It's illogical
95
24%
No proof
106
27%
Past events made me dislike them
20
5%
All the above
89
23%
Other (explain)
32
8%
 
Total votes : 390

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Postby Lolomz » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:23 am

Genivaria wrote:
Lolomz wrote:
welfare

Elaborate.


The religious minorities living from allowances - (it annoys me and that is why I am in favor laissez-faire capitalism where I live)
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:39 am

Lolomz wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Elaborate.


The religious minorities living from allowances - (it annoys me and that is why I am in favor laissez-faire capitalism where I live)

To which I ask again, what the hell are you talking about?

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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:11 am

Genivaria wrote:
Lolomz wrote:
The religious minorities living from allowances - (it annoys me and that is why I am in favor laissez-faire capitalism where I live)

To which I ask again, what the hell are you talking about?

The religious use more welfare. Or something.

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Postby Lolomz » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:45 am

Divair wrote:
Genivaria wrote:To which I ask again, what the hell are you talking about?

The religious use more welfare. Or something.


finally , what i want to say
Pro: Suid Afrika, Imperial State of Iran, Rhodesia,Republic Of China ,Seperate but equal policy on the US, Capitalism,whites-only voting rights. Hasmite rule on jordan
Anti: Socialism/Social democracy/etc.. ,Palestine,Saudi Arabia,Islamic Republic Of Iran,end of the aparthied on Suid Afrika(South africa it's ilegtimate nation on my eyes).
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:52 am

Lolomz wrote:
Divair wrote:The religious use more welfare. Or something.


finally , what i want to say

Coolio.

What's so bad about that?
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:03 am

Divair wrote:What age did you all decide to become atheists? Or were you one from birth?


I never "chose" to become an atheist. I chose to think about philosophical issues with honesty, and atheism was the result. I had only realized that my belief in God was gone in hindsight.

I do remember having to choose to accept that I had become an atheist in that I had realized that I was comfortable with my rational enlightenment and didn't need to choose to become a "seeker" for a religion. Also, the idea of having become an atheist was a bit scary, given my religious upbringing. I didn't want to call myself one right away, even in the privacy of my own mind.

The age? I think it was in my late teens or early twenties, but I don't recall the exact age. I called myself an agnostic for a few years, and finally called myself an atheist around 25-27 years of age.
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Postby Meridiani Planum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:09 am

Menassa wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:If I can ask, why do you need religion for morals and peace?

I know who I am without religion,
I hate that person.


I love the person I am without religion. I don't claim to be perfection itself, but I have virtues. I am a moral person and a peaceful one.
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Postby The Silence of Night » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:25 am

Vultasia wrote:
The Silence of Night wrote:Then what is Sagan?


The creator God who left this plane of the universe to pursue more wisdom and knowledge.

I'm a pagan. Neil deGrasse Tyson, Bill Nye, Brian Cox, etc.

You damn monotheists.

Hail Sagan.
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Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realistic egalitarian with several strong convictions.

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Postby Lolomz » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:29 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Lolomz wrote:
finally , what i want to say

Coolio.

What's so bad about that?


no normal reason for there using , Blind elderly, disabled, those who have chosen not voluntarily eliminated
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Anti: Socialism/Social democracy/etc.. ,Palestine,Saudi Arabia,Islamic Republic Of Iran,end of the aparthied on Suid Afrika(South africa it's ilegtimate nation on my eyes).
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Postby Agritum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:29 am

Agnostic here. Quite anti-clerical, but not anti-religious or anti-theistic.

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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:31 am

Lolomz wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Coolio.

What's so bad about that?


no normal reason for there using , Blind elderly, disabled, those who have chosen not voluntarily eliminated

What's a 'normal' reason?

And people getting to use welfare because they're a minority? Yeah, suuure.
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Postby The Silence of Night » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:39 am

Agritum wrote:Agnostic here. Quite anti-clerical, but not anti-religious or anti-theistic.

Agnostic Atheist or Agnostic Theist?
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Your test scores indicate that you are an open-minded ultra-progressive; this is the political profile one might associate with a journalist. It appears that you are skeptical towards religion, and have a balanced attitude towards humanity in general.

Your attitudes towards economics appear neither committedly capitalist nor socialist, and combined with your social attitudes this creates the picture of someone who would generally be described as a liberal.

To round out the picture you appear to be, political preference aside, a sensible realistic egalitarian with several strong convictions.

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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:31 am

Agritum wrote:Agnostic here. Quite anti-clerical, but not anti-religious or anti-theistic.

Does that means when I get Rabbinic ordination we can no longer be friends? :(
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Postby Ucropi » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:35 am

Atheists are just as bad as theists
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Postby Divair » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:36 am

Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists

Edgy.

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Postby Benuty » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:36 am

Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists


Hmm I am not sure this is a serious post.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:37 am

Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists

Well they do share most of the same name...
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Postby Arumdaum » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:37 am

Divair wrote:
Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists

Edgy.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:42 am

Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists


Keep telling yourself that. :rofl:
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:43 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Ucropi wrote:Atheists are just as bad as theists


Keep telling yourself that. :rofl:

We'd have to define the word 'bad'
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:44 am

Menassa wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Keep telling yourself that. :rofl:

We'd have to define the word 'bad'


Good point.
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:45 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:We'd have to define the word 'bad'


Good point.

If it meant Zealot-ness, than that senctance would make sense if we put a 'some' at the beginning.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:46 am

Menassa wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Good point.

If it meant Zealot-ness, than that senctance would make sense if we put a 'some' at the beginning.


It would, but he didn't.
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''A rich man complaining about regulation and taxes, is like the drunkard at a party, complaining about not having enough to drink.'',

"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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Postby Menassa » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:47 am

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:If it meant Zealot-ness, than that senctance would make sense if we put a 'some' at the beginning.


It would, but he didn't.

A truer thing has never been typed.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:50 am

Menassa wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
It would, but he didn't.

A truer thing has never been typed.


Indeed.
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