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Why are you atheist?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:45 pm

Because I don't like any of the established religions
13
3%
Religions are corrupt
35
9%
It's illogical
95
24%
No proof
106
27%
Past events made me dislike them
20
5%
All the above
89
23%
Other (explain)
32
8%
 
Total votes : 390

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Postby Conscentia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:20 am

Arglorand wrote:
Benuty wrote:Baltic paganism which thrived before the christianization of the area ( Thanks in part to Novograd and the Polish).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuva_%28religion%29

Yeah, that.
Left due to the incredulously high amount of nazis frequenting the congregations.

An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:22 am

Conscentia wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Yeah, that.
Left due to the incredulously high amount of nazis frequenting the congregations.

An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.


Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.
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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:24 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.


Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.


No it isn't. :lol:

If we made religion up, which we most likely did, we could just make any bullshit up and call it truth.

Duh.

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Postby Arglorand » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:25 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.


Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.

And also kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system invented by members of another nation. Fascists have this thing where they really want everything to be done locally, even religion, and thus they end up with this fetish for what they perceive as the local, ethnic faith.

And Romuva did pretty shittily at kicking them all out, thus removing any desire on my part to participate in their already weird religion.
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Postby Conscentia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:26 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.

Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.

Unless they're heretics, blasphemers, sexually-liberal, or aren't Christian...
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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:27 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.


No it isn't. :lol:

If we made religion up, which we most likely did, we could just make any bullshit up and call it truth.

Duh.


Tell that to the Neo-Nazis who believe they are signaling a return of the mighty all-father Odin to recreate a society of proud warriors.
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Postby Arumdaum » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:27 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:An increasing number of xenophobic fascist-types feel that Christianity is foreign religion. That's probably why.


Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.

Not really. When I was a hardcore Christian I wanted to exterminate the Japanese, Muslims, Turks, Arabs, Buddhists, enslave the Chinese, and subjugate the English.
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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:28 am

Conscentia wrote:
Benuty wrote:Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.

Unless they're heretics, blasphemers, sexually-liberal, or aren't Christian...

:rofl: What world do you live in where all Christians are that bigoted and where is the portal so I can destroy it?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:29 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Kind of hard to justify racist beliefs when you follow a belief system that believes in acceptance of various people.

Not really. When I was a hardcore Christian I wanted to exterminate the Japanese, Muslims, Turks, Arabs, Buddhists, enslave the Chinese, and subjugate the English.


I call that the perversion synthesis of radicalist nationalism within the faith.
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Postby Conscentia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:29 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Unless they're heretics, blasphemers, sexually-liberal, or aren't Christian...

:rofl: What world do you live in where all Christians are that bigoted and where is the portal so I can destroy it?

Two answers:
a. A plane to the USA.
b. A time machine.

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Postby Ontorisa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:32 am

Conscentia wrote:
Benuty wrote: :rofl: What world do you live in where all Christians are that bigoted and where is the portal so I can destroy it?

Two answers:
a. A plane to the USA.
b. A time machine.


:rofl:

You made my day.
Thank you.
Also, you guys notice the more North and West you get in the US, the less religion has a hold. However if you go south to Texas and places like that, it's still the 19th Century there.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:32 am

Conscentia wrote:
Benuty wrote: :rofl: What world do you live in where all Christians are that bigoted and where is the portal so I can destroy it?

Two answers:
a. A plane to the USA.
b. A time machine.


Considering the majority of the faithful in the past were ignorant tritheistic blood-cultists I hardly think that qualifies.
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Postby Conscentia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:39 am

Benuty wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Two answers:
a. A plane to the USA.
b. A time machine.

Considering the majority of the faithful in the past were ignorant tritheistic blood-cultists hardly think that qualifies.

What are you talking about? I listed heretics, blasphemers, sexual-liberals, and non-Christians.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:02 am

Arglorand wrote:
Divair wrote:What age did you all decide to become atheists? Or were you one from birth?

13.

Prior to that, I had brief stints as a convert to Judaism, [....]

You tried to convert to Judaism at 13 years of age?

Was it the Bar Mitzvahs that attracted you?
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:06 am

Menassa wrote:
Arglorand wrote:13.

Prior to that, I had brief stints as a convert to Judaism, [....]

You tried to convert to Judaism at 13 years of age?

Was it the Bar Mitzvahs that attracted you?

Among other things. My religious attractions at the time were basically based on reading up on the religion on wikipedia and taking a liking to it.
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Postby Menassa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:09 am

Arglorand wrote:
Menassa wrote:You tried to convert to Judaism at 13 years of age?

Was it the Bar Mitzvahs that attracted you?

Among other things. My religious attractions at the time were basically based on reading up on the religion on wikipedia and taking a liking to it.

I'm glad that you liked it, but in my professional opinion I don't think you would have gotten very far.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:13 am

Menassa wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Among other things. My religious attractions at the time were basically based on reading up on the religion on wikipedia and taking a liking to it.

I'm glad that you liked it, but in my professional opinion I don't think you would have gotten very far.

I don't think I'd have gotten very far either. :P
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Menassa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:14 am

Arglorand wrote:
Menassa wrote:I'm glad that you liked it, but in my professional opinion I don't think you would have gotten very far.

I don't think I'd have gotten very far either. :P

Perhaps wait until you were a bit older.... in your early 20s maybe?

And then try again... I'm assuming that's the answer you would have gotten from most. (without the specific age)
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:19 am

Menassa wrote:
Arglorand wrote:I don't think I'd have gotten very far either. :P

Perhaps wait until you were a bit older.... in your early 20s maybe?

And then try again... I'm assuming that's the answer you would have gotten from most. (without the specific age)

Methinks I ought to actually find a reason to believe in God before taking up a religion this time. For now, until further notice, I'm an atheist.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Menassa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:23 am

Arglorand wrote:
Menassa wrote:Perhaps wait until you were a bit older.... in your early 20s maybe?

And then try again... I'm assuming that's the answer you would have gotten from most. (without the specific age)

Methinks I ought to actually find a reason to believe in God before taking up a religion this time. For now, until further notice, I'm an atheist.

That could very well be.
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"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Divair » Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:42 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Benuty wrote:
Baltic paganism which thrived before the christianization of the area ( Thanks in part to Novograd and the Polish).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuva_%28religion%29

Yeah, that.

Left due to the incredulously high amount of nazis frequenting the congregations.

Nazi religion? Good god.

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Postby Furious Grandmothers » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:28 pm

Divair wrote:Nazi religion? Good god.

Let me take this out of context for a moment.
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Postby Bodobol » Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:31 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
Divair wrote:Nazi religion? Good god.

Let me take this out of context for a moment.


Oh my Hitler.
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Postby Divair » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:21 pm

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Divair wrote:Nazi religion? Good god.

Let me take this out of context for a moment.

Oh my goodness, oh my damn.

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