Atheist Discussion Thread

[Pensalum]

Yeah, that kinda is the point to religion.

Are you a theist?

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

[Lost heros]

And there are those who keep it irreligiously, as it's part of their culture.
The Jewish culture supersedes the Jewish religion.

Rather the Jewish religion's what started the culture, because the culture comes from the religion... you believe people in the desert began keeping Kosher culturally and then along came Ezra to say: "Let's make this religion?"

I believe a people in the desert, a proto-Jewish people, while wandering around formed the Jewish religion by denouncing all the other gods in the pantheon in which they believed. This formed the Jewish people. They changed their myths and perhaps some of their customs, but all in all everything was part of the Jewish culture, including the religion.

[Menassa]

Yeah, that kinda is the point to religion.

Are you a theist?

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

Jesus doesn't have to do with theism in general, however your Catholicism.

[Pensalum]

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

Jesus doesn't have to do with theism in general, however your Catholicism.

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

[Lost heros]

Jesus doesn't have to do with theism in general, however your Catholicism.

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

Theism is the belief in a deity/deities.
Atheism is the lack of a belief in a deity/deities.

[South Asia Minor]

Beyond the scope of current human knowledge.

I'm not sure what your objection is.

I'm stumbling a lot. It's 02:45 and I'm drunk.

What I'm trying to say is that while science and tbbt are certainly cogent, they cannot be demonstrably and objectively proven since nothing beyond a smattering of cognition can.

[Menassa]

Rather the Jewish religion's what started the culture, because the culture comes from the religion... you believe people in the desert began keeping Kosher culturally and then along came Ezra to say: "Let's make this religion?"

I believe a people in the desert, a proto-Jewish people, while wandering around formed the Jewish religion by denouncing all the other gods in the pantheon in which they believed. This formed the Jewish people. They changed their myths and perhaps some of their customs, but all in all everything was part of the Jewish culture, including the religion.

The religion formed the culture, who today keeps the culture? Those whose parents kept it? Why did they keep it? They probably were religious... the culture comes from the religion not the other way around.

Things refraining from certain actions on the Sabbath all of these actions are not in the Bible, they come from the Oral Law another part of the religion that most people keep (usually over the written Law, but eh.)

Languages, are another thing to notice.

Kippot and not mixing milk and meat aren't in the Bible itself, it comes from the Oral Law, the Oral part of our religion... perhaps this is the 'culture' of which you speak?

[Genivaria]

Jesus doesn't have to do with theism in general, however your Catholicism.

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

Correct.

[With Teeth]

Jesus doesn't have to do with theism in general, however your Catholicism.

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

Deism is, at a minimum, believing in a god.

[Pandeeria]

Yeah, that kinda is the point to religion.

Are you a theist?

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

[Pensalum]

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

Theism is the belief in a deity/deities.
Atheism is the lack of a belief in a deity/deities.

In that case, I guess I'm a theist.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Is theism just believing in God? Probably, because atheism is not believing in God.

Deism is, at a minimum, believing in a god.

Yeah so, Deism is believing a God, who stopped interact with the universe after making it, so no miracles, prayer, etc.

[Pensalum]

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

No, I'm for marriage equality. Not all Catholics are bigots, and it's a shame that a few vocal members seem to speak for all.

[Pandeeria]

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

No, I'm for marriage equality. Not all Catholics are bigots, and it's a shame that a few vocal members seem to speak for all.

What about how the bible supports killing gays?

[Menassa]

I don't really know what theism is enough to answer. Do I believe in "God": yes. Do I believe in Jesus: maybe... Am I a Catholic: religiously, not really, but I like most of the ideas presented by the religion.

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

Not really much to do with Theism....

[Floating mountain]

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

No, I'm for marriage equality. Not all Catholics are bigots, and it's a shame that a few vocal members seem to speak for all.

Well the extremes at both ends always yell the loudest.

[Menassa]

No, I'm for marriage equality. Not all Catholics are bigots, and it's a shame that a few vocal members seem to speak for all.

Well the extremes at both ends always yell the loudest.

I don't yell.

[Pandeeria]

Do you support gays being stoned? What about gay marriage in general?

Not really much to do with Theism....

He said he like the ideas from Catholicism, so I'm just asking him a few questions about it.

[Menassa]

Not really much to do with Theism....

He said he like the ideas from Catholicism, so I'm just asking him a few questions about it.

Ah, my mistake then.

[Genivaria]

Well the extremes at both ends always yell the loudest.

I don't yell.

You're hardly extreme.
If you want extreme go to Fundies Say the Darndest Things.com for some real nausea.

[Pensalum]

No, I'm for marriage equality. Not all Catholics are bigots, and it's a shame that a few vocal members seem to speak for all.

What about how the bible supports killing gays?

The bible is metaphorical to me. And sometimes I feel like the people who wrote it put their own agendas in it.

[Menassa]

I don't yell.

You're hardly extreme.
If you want extreme go to Fundies Say the Darndest Things.com for some real nausea.

I feel I'm pretty extreme and some people think I am...

[Neo Rome Republic]

You're hardly extreme.
If you want extreme go to Fundies Say the Darndest Things.com for some real nausea.

I feel I'm pretty extreme and some people think I am...

How so?

[Lost heros]

I believe a people in the desert, a proto-Jewish people, while wandering around formed the Jewish religion by denouncing all the other gods in the pantheon in which they believed. This formed the Jewish people. They changed their myths and perhaps some of their customs, but all in all everything was part of the Jewish culture, including the religion.

The religion formed the culture, who today keeps the culture? Those whose parents kept it? Why did they keep it? They probably were religious... the culture comes from the religion not the other way around.

Things refraining from certain actions on the Sabbath all of these actions are not in the Bible, they come from the Oral Law another part of the religion that most people keep (usually over the written Law, but eh.)

Languages, are another thing to notice.

Kippot and not mixing milk and meat aren't in the Bible itself, it comes from the Oral Law, the Oral part of our religion... perhaps this is the 'culture' of which you speak?

I'm not versed enough to debate you on this, also I'm really tired and don't care enough, so I'll take your words into consideration about culture stemming from religion and not vice versa.
Yes majority of the traditions stem from oral law, but some stem from written law, for example Passover and all the things done during Passover.
Regardless, this is a threadjack and we should stop. I'll probably TG you sometime in the near future about this subject.

[Floating mountain]

Well the extremes at both ends always yell the loudest.

I don't yell.

You are rather moderate in comparison to some people I have seen.