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Why are you atheist?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:45 pm

Because I don't like any of the established religions
13
3%
Religions are corrupt
35
9%
It's illogical
95
24%
No proof
106
27%
Past events made me dislike them
20
5%
All the above
89
23%
Other (explain)
32
8%
 
Total votes : 390

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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:00 pm

Furious Grandmothers wrote:
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And Benuty also accidentallied the forum.

Atleast I didn't accidental NSG.
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Postby Confederated Southern States » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:11 pm

Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.
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Postby Kemalist » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:16 pm

Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.


How do you know all the cool people are in hell? there are religions that favour logic and humanity other than the devout.
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Postby Pacifornia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:23 pm

Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.
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Postby Lost heros » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:24 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.

If you believe Dante, Hitler is in a different area of hell.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:29 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.

I'd like to play tennis with Hitler.
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Postby Confederated Southern States » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:40 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.


Why'd that be bad? We could wail on his ass for eternity.
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Anti: Homophobia/racism, intrusive gun control, most radical positions, extreme capitalism/communism/anything, Baltimore Ravens.
I have an RP set 30 years after the Destroy ending. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=260750
http://godisimaginary.com/
http://www.assaultweapon.info/
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Postby Divair » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:47 pm

Benuty wrote:
Furious Grandmothers wrote:And Benuty also accidentallied the forum.

Atleast I didn't accidental NSG.

Still pretty bad.

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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:49 pm

Confederated Southern States wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.


Why'd that be bad? We could wail on his ass for eternity.

Hardly.
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Postby Pacifornia » Tue Sep 24, 2013 2:56 pm

Confederated Southern States wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.


Why'd that be bad? We could wail on his ass for eternity.

That is if Satan let's us do his job for a bit. I'd be more than happy to kick his ass all over Hell. :lol:
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:17 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.

There is no such thing as 'deserve to be in hell' for hell is eternal.
Eternal punish for finite crime is inherently unjust.
Once we take over we'll set up a proper justice system where people serve out their sentence.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:17 pm

Pacifornia wrote:
Confederated Southern States wrote:Who wants to go to heaven anyways?

All the cool people are in hell. Hell, with all the scientists it's probably air-conditioned by now.

What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.

There is no such thing as 'deserve to be in hell' for hell is eternal.
Eternal punish for finite crime is inherently unjust.
Once we take over we'll set up a proper justice system where people serve out their sentence.
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Postby Oppressed Slaver Union » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:24 pm

Dead is dead. Why do we even care about what happens after we die? is it because we cannot comprehend not existing, as that is pretty much all we do?
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Postby Shaggai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Pacifornia wrote:What about the evil people who really deserve to be in hell? Like, oh, I don't know, Hitler? That is if hell even exists, which I highly doubt.

There is no such thing as 'deserve to be in hell' for hell is eternal.
Eternal punish for finite crime is inherently unjust.
Once we take over we'll set up a proper justice system where people serve out their sentence.

Depends. I've heard that a better translation for the phrase "eternal punishment" is "an unspecified amount of time/a timeless period of trimming/pruning/correction". So, only forever in the same sense that math class is forever.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:41 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Genivaria wrote:There is no such thing as 'deserve to be in hell' for hell is eternal.
Eternal punish for finite crime is inherently unjust.
Once we take over we'll set up a proper justice system where people serve out their sentence.

Depends. I've heard that a better translation for the phrase "eternal punishment" is "an unspecified amount of time/a timeless period of trimming/pruning/correction". So, only forever in the same sense that math class is forever.

Good luck finding all the numbers to Pi then.
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Postby Shaggai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:45 pm

Benuty wrote:
Shaggai wrote:Depends. I've heard that a better translation for the phrase "eternal punishment" is "an unspecified amount of time/a timeless period of trimming/pruning/correction". So, only forever in the same sense that math class is forever.

Good luck finding all the numbers to Pi then.

I never did that in math class.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:47 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Benuty wrote:Good luck finding all the numbers to Pi then.

I never did that in math class.

Well unlike Earth's math classes the abode of the dead covers all forms of mathematics.
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Postby Shaggai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:47 pm

Benuty wrote:
Shaggai wrote:I never did that in math class.

Well unlike Earth's math classes the abode of the dead covers all forms of mathematics.

...I never said Hell is math class. Hell is the Jerusalem city dump.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:49 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Benuty wrote:Well unlike Earth's math classes the abode of the dead covers all forms of mathematics.

...I never said Hell is math class. Hell is the Jerusalem city dump.

The abode of the dead is hardly a city dump unless you fancy sitting in your own filth then go for it.
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Postby Shaggai » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:56 pm

Benuty wrote:
Shaggai wrote:...I never said Hell is math class. Hell is the Jerusalem city dump.

The abode of the dead is hardly a city dump unless you fancy sitting in your own filth then go for it.

I'm talking about the Christian/Paulinist conception of hell. Known as Gehenna. Which was the Jerusalem city dump.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:59 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Benuty wrote:The abode of the dead is hardly a city dump unless you fancy sitting in your own filth then go for it.

I'm talking about the Christian/Paulinist conception of hell. Known as Gehenna. Which was the Jerusalem city dump.

Do you mean Christian or Churchian?
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Postby Menassa » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:44 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Benuty wrote:The abode of the dead is hardly a city dump unless you fancy sitting in your own filth then go for it.

I'm talking about the Christian/Paulinist conception of hell. Known as Gehenna. Which was the Jerusalem city dump.

That's not the Christian conception... the Paulinist conception follows more along the Greek line of Hades.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:44 pm

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Oh so Lucifer is the one we have to thank for opening our eyes away from the ignorance of Eden?

Depends on the Bible you read.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:53 pm

Menassa wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Oh so Lucifer is the one we have to thank for opening our eyes away from the ignorance of Eden?

Depends on the Bible you read.


It's still apart of the bible though.
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Postby Menassa » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Menassa wrote:Depends on the Bible you read.


It's still apart of the bible though.

Perhaps the Christian Bible, my Bible mentions nothing the Serpent being Satan.
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