China to go to the Moon

[Skrewalkers]

So, how many posts before we went from "China Goes to the Moon" to "No, JEWS are God's chosen people!"

Fuckin' nationstates, man...

[Slafstopia]

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

I want some of what he's on. It it more hallucinogenic than sleep deprivation.

Seriously, everything I've said is something you can learn by playing video games, and watching other people play them. It's that easy.

[God Kefka]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

In the future when they are perfected...

I imagine they would be launched from Earth or space locations to target Earth or space targets with pinpoint accuracy and overwhelming firepower.

It would COMPLETELY revolutionize warfare by adding a new theater that trumps control of air space and air warfare... space.

It won't be air supremacy or land army mass that decides victories... it will be who has command of space. Who has the capability to launch missiles and drop bombs from space.

It will be about who can control the satellites in space and thus has informational supremacy...

It will be about who controls the key resource in space routes, planets and outposts.

There will also likely be new fighters that can travel between space and Earth's atmosphere with ease... thus allowing them bypass most anti-aircraft defenses without warning and attack suddenly and with high precision.

The implications are HUGE.

The USA MUST take advantage of its present advantage in space to protect itself from everyone else. It should start staking claims in space now and build the weapons that will actually win wars in the future.

[Arglorand]

If the USA occupies space, I'm defecting to the Krogan.

[Wisconsin9]

So, how many posts before we went from "China Goes to the Moon" to "No, JEWS are God's chosen people!"

Fuckin' nationstates, man...

The Chinese are communists, remember? That means they're in on the Jewluminati plot to establish an NWO ruled by alien lizardmen.

[Las Palmeras]

I want some of what he's on. It it more hallucinogenic than sleep deprivation.

Seriously, everything I've said is something you can learn by playing video games, and watching other people play them. It's that easy.

No...not you, what Kefka is using.

[Qahadim]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

Don't we have a treaty in place that prevents governments from staking claims on other planets/celestial bodies?

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

[Galloism]

Don't we have a treaty in place that prevents governments from staking claims on other planets/celestial bodies?

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

Quite a few times, actually.

[Wisconsin9]

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

In the future when they are perfected...

I imagine they would be launched from Earth or space locations to target Earth or space targets with pinpoint accuracy and overwhelming firepower.

It would COMPLETELY revolutionize warfare by adding a new theater that trumps control of air space and air warfare... space.

It won't be air supremacy or land army mass that decides victories... it will be who has command of space. Who has the capability to launch missiles and drop bombs from space.

It will be about who can control the satellites in space and thus has informational supremacy...

It will be about who controls the key resource in space routes, planets and outposts.

There will also likely be new fighters that can travel between space and Earth's atmosphere with ease... thus allowing them bypass most anti-aircraft defenses without warning and attack suddenly and with high precision.

The implications are HUGE.

The USA MUST take advantage of its present advantage in space to protect itself from everyone else. It should start staking claims in space now and build the weapons that will actually win wars in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon

And again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

[God Kefka]

Don't we have a treaty in place that prevents governments from staking claims on other planets/celestial bodies?

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

Exactly...

The USA would be naive if it thinks Russia and China would play by the rules when they have the tools.

We need to act now...

It's like the European scramble all over again... if we don't take colonies while we can... someone else will.

This applies to space.

Might and power > any treaties

[Wisconsin9]

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

Exactly...

The USA would be naive if it thinks Russia and China would play by the rules when they have the tools.

We need to act now...

It's like the European scramble all over again... if we don't take colonies while we can... someone else will.

This applies to space.

Might and power > any treaties

Then explain why we didn't claim the Moon in 1969.

[Pelhafor]

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

In the future when they are perfected...

I imagine they would be launched from Earth or space locations to target Earth or space targets with pinpoint accuracy and overwhelming firepower.

It would COMPLETELY revolutionize warfare by adding a new theater that trumps control of air space and air warfare... space.

It won't be air supremacy or land army mass that decides victories... it will be who has command of space. Who has the capability to launch missiles and drop bombs from space.

It will be about who can control the satellites in space and thus has informational supremacy...

It will be about who controls the key resource in space routes, planets and outposts.

There will also likely be new fighters that can travel between space and Earth's atmosphere with ease... thus allowing them bypass most anti-aircraft defenses without warning and attack suddenly and with high precision.

The implications are HUGE.

The USA MUST take advantage of its present advantage in space to protect itself from everyone else. It should start staking claims in space now and build the weapons that will actually win wars in the future.

By "everyone else," you mean extraterrestrials, righ...?

How about we start protecting us from ourselves? If the United States starts militarizing space, then all other powers will follow in its footsteps. The fear of the militarization of space will lead to the militarization of space itself. Even if space will, at some point, be militarized, there's no point for the United States to be the ones to instigate it.

[Slafstopia]

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

In the future when they are perfected...

I imagine they would be launched from Earth or space locations to target Earth or space targets with pinpoint accuracy and overwhelming firepower.

It would COMPLETELY revolutionize warfare by adding a new theater that trumps control of air space and air warfare... space.

It won't be air supremacy or land army mass that decides victories... it will be who has command of space. Who has the capability to launch missiles and drop bombs from space.

It will be about who can control the satellites in space and thus has informational supremacy...

It will be about who controls the key resource in space routes, planets and outposts.

There will also likely be new fighters that can travel between space and Earth's atmosphere with ease... thus allowing them bypass most anti-aircraft defenses without warning and attack suddenly and with high precision.

The implications are HUGE.

The USA MUST take advantage of its present advantage in space to protect itself from everyone else. It should start staking claims in space now and build the weapons that will actually win wars in the future.

First of all, conventional missiles are way more accurate than orbital missiles will ever be. I have gone over this previously. The planet rotates. Burning retrograde takes time.

Secondly, they would be going rather slowly due to atmospheric drag, which would also likely rip the missile apart unless its heatshields were sufficient. Said heatshields would probably soften the impact slightly. Nevertheless, you'd probably never reach the 4,000 m/s that ICBMs impact targets at.

Thirdly, space warfare would be ridiculously expensive, so let's stick to the atmosphere for now.

Fourthly, I don't believe that the USA has created an SSTO plane yet, let alone conceived SSTOs with guns attached, so good luck with that.

The implications are tiny and ridiculous.

There are no such things as space routes. This is just more proof of how you're completely ignorant to the way actual astronomy works, and that you're basing all of this off of Star Trek.

The whole idea is fucking ridiculous.

[God Kefka]

Exactly...

The USA would be naive if it thinks Russia and China would play by the rules when they have the tools.

We need to act now...

It's like the European scramble all over again... if we don't take colonies while we can... someone else will.

This applies to space.

Might and power > any treaties

Then explain why we didn't claim the Moon in 1969.

At the time we didn't have the technology to enforce our claims... we do now.

Plus the USSR was a real threat back then... now we are the superpower.

[Americanada]

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

First Amendment is irrelevant to who God''s chosen people are.

When you have come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, “I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me,” you may indeed set over you a king whom the Lord your God will choose. One of your own community you may set as king over you; you are not permitted to put a foreigner over you, who is not of your own community.

Deuteronomy 17:14-15

Yeah, why was God supporting the side where major influences included Benjamin "Lighthouses are more useful than Churches" Franklin, John "This would be the best world if there were no religions in it," Adams, and Thomas "Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth," Jefferson?

Seriously, why would an omniscient god support people who obviously have said nasty things about the religion he created and are disobeying the commands he wrote thousands of years ago? If anything, that would be the time for God to support the nation that is both a monarchy and, technically, a Christian theocracy due to divine right.

To claim status as a patriotic American and a religious nationalist is a paradox that requires ignorance or stupidity to exist considering America being founded on civic nationalism, not religious nationalism, ethnic nationalism, or cultural nationalism.

[Qahadim]

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

Quite a few times, actually.

Yes of course, but there are just as many instances where the paper meant squat and a government just did what it wanted regardless of obligation.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

Good.

[Wisconsin9]

Then explain why we didn't claim the Moon in 1969.

At the time we didn't have the technology to enforce our claims... we do now.

Plus the USSR was a real threat back then... now we are the superpower.

Nobody had the tech to contest our claims, either. And if anything, that would have just given us more reason to claim it, so that we could lord it over them.

[Dyakovo]

Hiddenrun.....that's all I'm saying.

Who/what is Hiddenrun?

Hiddenrum was a troll that got away with it for a while, was a puppet account of a DOSed user.

[Skrewalkers]

So, how many posts before we went from "China Goes to the Moon" to "No, JEWS are God's chosen people!"

Fuckin' nationstates, man...

The Chinese are communists, remember? That means they're in on the Jewluminati plot to establish an NWO ruled by alien lizardmen.

Oh, shit, that's right.

See, I knew there was a reason the Jews went to Chinese restaurants on Christmas.

Which is the birthday of...oh my god...

[The Joseon Dynasty]

The Chinese are communists, remember? That means they're in on the Jewluminati plot to establish an NWO ruled by alien lizardmen.

Oh, shit, that's right.

See, I knew there was a reason the Jews went to Chinese restaurants on Christmas.

Which is the birthday of...oh my god...

Jimmy Buffett

[Fartsniffage]

Who/what is Hiddenrun?

Hiddenrum was a troll that got away with it for a while, was a puppet account of a DOSed user.

Well, there was a little more to it than that....

[Dyakovo]

Hiddenrum was a troll that got away with it for a while, was a puppet account of a DOSed user.

Well, there was a little more to it than that....

True, but that was a decent quick and dirty summary...

[Wind in the Willows]

Very interesting.

[Indira]

I think so, but since when has a piece of paper ever stopped anybody?

Exactly...

The USA would be naive if it thinks Russia and China would play by the rules when they have the tools.

We need to act now...

It's like the European scramble all over again... if we don't take colonies while we can... someone else will.

This applies to space.

Might and power > any treaties

Except conventional EARTH-BASED weapons trump space based ones as it stands and besides which, the US has a HUGE development budget for new weapons and technologies. They don't develop in isolation