China to go to the Moon

[Qahadim]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

So the British Empire was the Virginia Maryland who birthed Jesusland? Makes sense.

[Slafstopia]

Great to see some more outer space work, now the USA needs to give NASA a kick start to stay ahead....
Seriously, space is a battleground in the future (and that's not kidding, I work in defence) if America neglects her development, it could put them at a crucial disadvantage

i.e Your enemies have orbital space weapons + You don't = REALLY REALLY BAD!

For the last time, orbital space weapons aren't practical. Working in defense doesn't make you an astronomer. It takes so long to burn retrograde that you'll miss your target completely, and after that, atmospheric drag will take you far below the 4,000 m/s that most ICBMs impact their targets at. And you won't have any propulsion left to speed you up because you'll have spent it deorbiting.

[God Kefka]

The USA is so powerful right now it could single handedly defeat all of history's other greatest empires added together....

Rome is completely irrelevant when compared to the United States of America.

You know what's terribly interesting?

Rome could have defeated all of history's other greatest empires added together at the time. No one, prior to the romans, had a war machine like them.


Also: God's chosen people. lolwut.

No they couldn't. They would be horribly outnumbered and wrecked by disease.

You see... they don't have such a technological advantage as the USA. They don't have nukes, carriers, modern fighter planes or machine guns.

[Galloism]

I could have sworn the Israelites were the chosen people. Where's my Bible...

They were...

But sadly in this day and age they have abandoned Christ and by extension, the Lord's Kingdom.

We in the USA, however, have not.

Plus there are signs that the USA is the Lord's real Chosen People. We are the first European colony to gain independence, Manifest Destiny guided us to take almost an entire continent, we are the first to accomplish something important in space... the list goes on...

However, with great power comes great responsibility.

I say we consolidate our advantage in outer space rather than be weak and let people in China and Russia take us out there. This OP about China should serve as a wake-up call...

The USA has been great in the past and it is great now. But only by making the right decisions (decisive, godly, righteous, and firm ones) can we ensure that the USA survives the test of history and maintains its No. 1 class.

... I'm really starting to wonder if we're seeing an attempt at satire here.

[Bojikami]

So the British Empire was the Virginia Maryland who birthed Jesusland? Makes sense.

The British Empire was no virgin.

We fucked plenty of countries before getting round to America....

[Fartsniffage]

They were...

But sadly in this day and age they have abandoned Christ and by extension, the Lord's Kingdom.

We in the USA, however, have not.

Plus there are signs that the USA is the Lord's real Chosen People. We are the first European colony to gain independence, Manifest Destiny guided us to take almost an entire continent, we are the first to accomplish something important in space... the list goes on...

However, with great power comes great responsibility.

I say we consolidate our advantage in outer space rather than be weak and let people in China and Russia take us out there. This OP about China should serve as a wake-up call...

The USA has been great in the past and it is great now. But only by making the right decisions (decisive, godly, righteous, and firm ones) can we ensure that the USA survives the test of history and maintains its No. 1 class.

... I'm really starting to wonder if we're seeing an attempt at satire here.

Hiddenrun.....that's all I'm saying.

[Regnum Dominae]

... I'm really starting to wonder if we're seeing an attempt at satire here.

Hiddenrun.....that's all I'm saying.

Who/what is Hiddenrun?

[Galloism]

... I'm really starting to wonder if we're seeing an attempt at satire here.

Hiddenrun.....that's all I'm saying.

Ah.

Well, once you start with the whole "USA is God's chosen people", especially given the biblical prophecy that the USA (along with all other governments) will be destroyed and replaced by Christ's Kingdom, well... let's just say the cognitive dissonance would need to be strong indeed.

[Bojikami]

You know what's terribly interesting?

Rome could have defeated all of history's other greatest empires added together at the time. No one, prior to the romans, had a war machine like them.


Also: God's chosen people. lolwut.

No they couldn't. They would be horribly outnumbered and wrecked by disease.

You see... they don't have such a technological advantage as the USA. They don't have nukes, carriers, modern fighter planes or machine guns.

Because obviously other countries don't have those things.

[Indira]

You know what's terribly interesting?

Rome could have defeated all of history's other greatest empires added together at the time. No one, prior to the romans, had a war machine like them.


Also: God's chosen people. lolwut.

No they couldn't. They would be horribly outnumbered and wrecked by disease.

You see... they don't have such a technological advantage as the USA. They don't have nukes, carriers, modern fighter planes or machine guns.

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Romans would have said that in their time. And the British Empire. And probably any other empire. Besides, God's chosen people? Don't make me laugh. That's what the First Amendment is for.

[The Sovietyeto]

Seriously what the fuck? Syria is at this point a giant clusterfuck, our only involvement should be to send humanitarian aid to the civilians caught in the middle.

The conflict needs to end to prevent any needless civilian casualties. The best way to end it is to intervene and establish a democratic pro-Western government.

What has Iran done to deserve being declared war on?

Overthrowing the Shah and generally violating human rights of millions of people.

1: We don't NEED TO. The Ni\z's are floating cities.

Yes we do. Right now the Nimitzes are doing just fine, but they'll be outdated in 10-20 years and we'll have to start replacing them with the Gerald Ford class. The problem is that we're not constructing enough Gerald R. Fords compared to the retirement rate of the old Nimitzes. Thus, the US Navy will have less than 11 aircraft carriers which is the bare minimum set by the DoD.

2: Thus we have B-52's, AC-130's and F-22 ("Upgrading" To the F-35's)

Yes, we'll be using 100-year old bombers in a few decades. Might as well start constructing Spitfires for the USAF. F-22 and F-35 are constant failures; we'll be forced to rely on F-15s and F-16s for a long, long, looong time.
What you don't seem to understand that while F-16s are good right now, they'll be severly outdated within the next decade. That's why we gotta plan ahead.

3: Why would the Finish be involving in Syria? The US Should not we don't need another fucking ground war

Maybe we'd get a sensible government that understands the importance of human rights? And actually you do. America must liberate the people of Syria and Iran.

4:Because it's not our fucking Job. The UN was made for a reason

The UN is useless as long as it is prevented from functioning by dictatorships like Russia and China.

You don't have a clue, do you?
1 - Bombers are not used in a modern military. Fighter jets are more than capable in delivering tactical payloads and rockets are by far cheaper and better than bombers. The B-52 is fine where it is. No need to burn more cash on stealth bombers when we already have what we need.
2 - We have more than 5 times the number of aircraft carriers than the the next country wot the most. We don't need more carriers. The Gerald Ford's are not major improvements over the Nimitz as the carriers is valued based on how many aircraft it can carry. We have eleven mamoths already. We have more than enough projection of arial power. Not to mention that planes can go farther and farther now so it's not like we need to get more carriers to cover more ground.
3 - If you had even the slightest clue about world events we have Al Queda vs a bat-crazy dictator. Intervention would not only kill more people, but its not Anerica's job to do it either. I don't see Finland manning up. America is not the world's police. If it's such an issue, handle it yourself. Congress, the America Public, an the UN do not want to get America involved.
4 - Russia is not a dictatorship, China, maybe, but there are no serious issues other than "OHMYGODCOLDWARENEMIES!". We are cooperating to help them both in a peacefull manner. Once again, handle it yourself.

[Galloism]

No they couldn't. They would be horribly outnumbered and wrecked by disease.

You see... they don't have such a technological advantage as the USA. They don't have nukes, carriers, modern fighter planes or machine guns.

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Romans would have said that in their time. And the British Empire. And probably any other empire. Besides, God's chosen people? Don't make me laugh. That's what the First Amendment is for.

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

[Grantica]

"Chang'e"

THIS IS PROOF THAT OBAMA IS A CHINESE SPY

*nods*

That is indeed irrefutable logic.

[God Kefka]

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Romans would have said that in their time. And the British Empire. And probably any other empire. Besides, God's chosen people? Don't make me laugh. That's what the First Amendment is for.

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

First Amendment is irrelevant to who God''s chosen people are.

[Fartsniffage]

Yes. I'm pretty sure the Romans would have said that in their time. And the British Empire. And probably any other empire. Besides, God's chosen people? Don't make me laugh. That's what the First Amendment is for.

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

No, it makes him laugh.

[Americanada]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

HAHAHA what are you smoking?

The irony of the so-called patriot ignoring the fact America was unique for being a nation founded on shared ideals of the enlightenment rather than most nation's foundations in shared ethnicity, culture, or religion, is not lost on proponents of civic/liberal/civil nationalism.

Hell, I'll just use this bible quote to show that Yahweh, if he existed, would have been supporting the government that still legally derives power from divine right.

When you have come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, “I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me,” you may indeed set over you a king whom the Lord your God will choose. One of your own community you may set as king over you; you are not permitted to put a foreigner over you, who is not of your own community.

Deuteronomy 17:14-15

[God Kefka]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

[Las Palmeras]

First Amendment is irrelevant to who God''s chosen people are.

"Any person who accepts Christ as spiritual savior" is supposedly chosen, or saved.

[Magna Libero]

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

First Amendment is irrelevant to who God''s chosen people are.

Wait what. We are talking about God's chosen people in a "China-go-to-moon-thread"? Jews are God's chosen people. End of story.

C-Can, can we instead discuss about Space and China, since I fail to see the connection between those two things?

[Slafstopia]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

[Galloism]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

Don't we have a treaty in place that prevents governments from staking claims on other planets/celestial bodies?

[Las Palmeras]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

Explain how you think an orbital missile would work. I wanna point out every single misconception you have meticulously.

I want some of what he's on. It it more hallucinogenic than sleep deprivation.

[Wisconsin9]

It will only be a matter of time before China starts staking claims in outer space and becoming the world's first space empire. Either China or Russia... The OP is but one indication of this.

This is what the USA should do.

It should militarize space and be the first one to stake claims. The moon is a great starting place.

In the future, who controls key resources and strategic locations across space will be a huge factor in who maintains superpower status. We can't afford to miss the next age of Colonization...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty

That said, it's about fucking time we (as in the human race) went back to the Moon. And with luck, Congress'll think this is China claiming to have a bigger dick than us, feel threatened, and do everything possible to out-dick them.

[Qahadim]

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

First Amendment is irrelevant to who God''s chosen people are.

On a scale of just one to hammered, how fucked up are you? I know it's Saturday, but slow down. Enjoy it.

[Skrewalkers]

It keeps God from picking favorites?

Wow. That's amazing.

No, it makes him laugh.

God: Dude, dude, archangel dude, get in here, look at this, this is funny as shit, man.

Michael: You called, sir?

God: Okay, check this out...some of them are calling for religious plurality as a means of greater freedom and more peaceable co-existence. Holy shit, man, I can't stop laughing.

Michael: Sigh...shall I pack another bowl for you, sir?

God: Yeah, yeah. Oh shit, look, now they're going apeshit over which ones like to fuck differently...oh man, I'm gonna fuckin pee!