China to go to the Moon

[God Kefka]

Why is it in the USA's interest to share what it can completely own?

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

[Anollasia]

China also had a budget in astronomy but it really took them a while to finally do this.

[Galloism]

I mean, that's true.

At best, it can only last a thousand years or so.

US first reich?

I was thinking of the Roman Empire.

[Fartsniffage]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

Ah.

[God Kefka]

Oh yes, we helped to overthrow the Soviet puppet who had crushed civil rights in Chile with unconstitutional reforms and then proceeded to help a patriotic Chilean to punish the traitorous communists for their crimes against Chile. What about it?

No, what the AMERICANS did was overthrow a democratically elected Marxist and helped install a dictator. But as long as he wasn't a communist, amirite?

I think it was justified.

I mean communists governments always steal stuff and oppress the people am I right?

Better a good dictatorship than an evil communist nation right?

[Galloism]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Like Rome?

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

Well, you've got to underst-

Wait, what?

[Slafstopia]

...The fact that you think it's likely to be able to control minerals and resources from OUTER FUCKING SPACE in the future just shows that your arguments are horrible and you know little-to-nothing about astronomy.

Of course you can harvest resources from other planets as well as Earth.

Plus, even if we have not yet discovered anything valuable for NOW it doesn't mean we won't in the future? In the future we may (very likely) find some kind of extremely precious resource in outer space.

At that point its in the USA's interest to have the weapons to forcefully claim them... the other powers (China, Russia etc) won't play nice so why should we?

Plus colonizing the moon gives us more land. Also, who knows what we may find in the future under the surface of the moon?

Do you know how much time you'd need to spend just waiting? Fucking years. You don't just fly around in straight lines towards places you want to go, like in Star Trek or Star Wars or whatever. You have to execute complex orbital maneouvres. It could take decades just to go to Mars, mine some useless fucking iron oxide that could easily be made here on Earth with no effort at all, and come back here. And I guarantee you, the probe would end up landing in the middle of the ocean, or on Russian or Chinese land.

And how do you think we're to go about colonizing the moon, eh? Go ahead and explain it. This isn't Kerbal Space Program. We don't have an infinite supply of kerbonauts who require absolutely no resources to live and are completely expendable.

[Regnum Dominae]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

HAHAHA what are you smoking?

[God Kefka]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Like Rome?

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

Well, you've got to underst-

Wait, what?

The USA is so powerful right now it could single handedly defeat all of history's other greatest empires added together....

Rome is completely irrelevant when compared to the United States of America.

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

American exceptionalism again?
...

Stick a fork in that bullshit. It's long since done.

[Nevanmaa]

Oh yes, we helped to overthrow the Soviet puppet who had crushed civil rights in Chile with unconstitutional reforms and then proceeded to help a patriotic Chilean to punish the traitorous communists for their crimes against Chile. What about it?

No, what the AMERICANS did was overthrow a democratically elected Marxist and helped install a dictator. But as long as he wasn't a communist, amirite?

Oh yes, democratically elected by 36% of the people as opposed to 63% of the people who supported various centrist and rightist parties. Allende then proceeded to violate the Chilean constitution by enacting reforms to which he had no mandate, like confiscating property, debasing the currency and causing horrific inflation, illegally seizing businesses, intimidating the opposition and bankrupting newspapers and other media outlets that criticized him. After he took power, armed gangs of leftist thugs invaded homes and took over factories, and all this was supported by Cuba and the Soviet Union.

Luckily there was a true Chilean hero and a patriot named Pinochet who put an end to this madness.

[Qahadim]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

I could have sworn the Israelites were the chosen people. Where's my Bible...

[Bojikami]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

HAHAHA what are you smoking?

I don't know, but what I do know is he needs introduce me to his dealer.

[Galloism]

Like Rome?


Well, you've got to underst-

Wait, what?

The USA is so powerful right now it could single handedly defeat all of history's other greatest empires added together....

Rome is completely irrelevant when compared to the United States of America.

You know what's terribly interesting?

Rome could have defeated all of history's other greatest empires added together at the time. No one, prior to the romans, had a war machine like them.


Also: God's chosen people. lolwut.

[Indira]

America is the world's only superpower. As such, it has a duty to protect the freedoms of the people around the world from tyranny. To achieve that, the United States needs a well-funded, large and robust military capable of striking and defeating any foe at a moment's notice.

Please tell me you're not serious with that ridiculous statement.

You haven't known Hippo very long. Also, you have no right to make such ridiculous claims when you yourself intend to skive out of your OWN commitment to YOUR countries defence. Do your national service and THEN that statement won't sound so incredibly stupid.

[4years]

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Or in Indonesia in 1965?
Or Iran in 1941?
Or Guatemala in 1954?
Or Honduras in 2009?


Not to mention:

Brazil 1964, Syria 1949, Greece 1949, Cuba 1952, British Guyana 1953, South Vietnam 1955, Haiti 1957, Laos 1958 1959 and 1960, South Korea 1960, Ecuador 1960, Dominican Republic 1963, South Vietnam 1963, Guatemala 1963, Ecuador 1963, Bolivia 1964, Zaire 1965, Ghana 1966, Greece 1967, Cambodia 1970, Bolivia 1970, El Salvador 1972, Australia 1975, South Korea 1979, Liberia 1980, Chad 1982, Grenada 1983, Fiji 1987, Venezuela 2002, and Haiti 2004.

[Agritum]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

So the British Empire was the Virginia Maryland who birthed Jesusland? Makes sense.

[Las Palmeras]

No, what the AMERICANS did was overthrow a democratically elected Marxist and helped install a dictator. But as long as he wasn't a communist, amirite?

I think it was justified.

I mean communists governments always steal stuff and oppress the people am I right?

Better a good dictatorship than an evil communist nation right?

In my brief 18 years of life if there's anything I've learned from history classes is that human civilization's macroscopic social actions generally tend to range from near-white light grey to near-black dark grey.

[Regnum Dominae]

No, what the AMERICANS did was overthrow a democratically elected Marxist and helped install a dictator. But as long as he wasn't a communist, amirite?

Oh yes, democratically elected by 36% of the people as opposed to 63% of the people who supported various centrist and rightist parties. Allende then proceeded to violate the Chilean constitution by enacting reforms to which he had no mandate, like confiscating property, debasing the currency and causing horrific inflation, illegally seizing businesses, intimidating the opposition and bankrupting newspapers and other media outlets that criticized him. After he took power, armed gangs of leftist thugs invaded homes and took over factories, and all this was supported by Cuba and the Soviet Union.

Luckily there was a true Chilean hero and a patriot named Pinochet who put an end to this madness.

Yes, Allende was shit but Pinochet was no better.

[Arostia]

Great to see some more outer space work, now the USA needs to give NASA a kick start to stay ahead....
Seriously, space is a battleground in the future (and that's not kidding, I work in defence) if America neglects her development, it could put them at a crucial disadvantage

i.e Your enemies have orbital space weapons + You don't = REALLY REALLY BAD!

[Slafstopia]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

HAHAHA what are you smoking?

Does science-fiction come in drug form?

Because if it does, that's what he's smoking. As an avid astronomer, this thread is making me puke up my intestines.

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

Yes, Allende was shit but Pinochet was no better.

You're never going to shake him out of that ridiculous delusion, so why not get back to talking about space travel now?

[God Kefka]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

I could have sworn the Israelites were the chosen people. Where's my Bible...

They were...

But sadly in this day and age they have abandoned Christ and by extension, the Lord's Kingdom.

We in the USA, however, have not.

Plus there are signs that the USA is the Lord's real Chosen People. We are the first European colony to gain independence, Manifest Destiny guided us to take almost an entire continent, we are the first to accomplish something important in space... the list goes on...

However, with great power comes great responsibility.

I say we consolidate our advantage in outer space rather than be weak and let people in China and Russia take us out there. This OP about China should serve as a wake-up call...

The USA has been great in the past and it is great now. But only by making the right decisions (decisive, godly, righteous, and firm ones) can we ensure that the USA survives the test of history and maintains its No. 1 class.

[Fartsniffage]

Of course the USA is in a unique position to maintain an everlasting empire... we have unparalleled technological weapons, economic resources, and just overall power.

Plus we are God's chosen people. It is clear that God only intended the British Empire to give birth to us and set the stage for us to take over their world leadership.

So the British Empire was the Virginia Maryland who birthed Jesusland? Makes sense.

The British Empire was no virgin.

We fucked plenty of countries before getting round to America....

[Magna Libero]

Maybe this'll put a bit of pressure on the US to ramp up their work.

Because space exploration is totally not a waste of money or anything isn't it? Please don't use the 'but spaceships are cool!' argument, that pisses me off.

Yes. A mothership from Star Wars would also be cool and create some jobs, but who would like to pay for those nice things?