China to go to the Moon

[Galloism]

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.

I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

[Nevanmaa]

Seriously what the fuck? Syria is at this point a giant clusterfuck, our only involvement should be to send humanitarian aid to the civilians caught in the middle.

The conflict needs to end to prevent any needless civilian casualties. The best way to end it is to intervene and establish a democratic pro-Western government.

What has Iran done to deserve being declared war on?

Overthrowing the Shah and generally violating human rights of millions of people.

1: We don't NEED TO. The Ni\z's are floating cities.

Yes we do. Right now the Nimitzes are doing just fine, but they'll be outdated in 10-20 years and we'll have to start replacing them with the Gerald Ford class. The problem is that we're not constructing enough Gerald R. Fords compared to the retirement rate of the old Nimitzes. Thus, the US Navy will have less than 11 aircraft carriers which is the bare minimum set by the DoD.

2: Thus we have B-52's, AC-130's and F-22 ("Upgrading" To the F-35's)

Yes, we'll be using 100-year old bombers in a few decades. Might as well start constructing Spitfires for the USAF. F-22 and F-35 are constant failures; we'll be forced to rely on F-15s and F-16s for a long, long, looong time.
What you don't seem to understand that while F-16s are good right now, they'll be severly outdated within the next decade. That's why we gotta plan ahead.

3: Why would the Finish be involving in Syria? The US Should not we don't need another fucking ground war

Maybe we'd get a sensible government that understands the importance of human rights? And actually you do. America must liberate the people of Syria and Iran.

4:Because it's not our fucking Job. The UN was made for a reason

The UN is useless as long as it is prevented from functioning by dictatorships like Russia and China.

[Slafstopia]

There's a reason NASA stopped with the Apollo missions, and started with space stations like SkyLab.

It's because they had already done everything worthwhile that was physically possible.

I see no reason to go there except to flip NASA the finger.

[God Kefka]

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

It will be in the future...

The USA has a huge almost completely unassailable advantage in space weapons right now. It should take advantage of this temporary advantage to establish a space empire before the other countries catch up.

In the future, it's likely that control of minerals and resources in outer space could determine prosperity of nations on Earth.

The USA should play hard ball and start making claims. The moon would be a GREAT place to start.

The Chinese will do it first if the USA doesn't... they are already on track to the moon as the OP has said. USA can knock out this possibility... claim the moon!

Why should the USA share space with others when it can monopolize it as befits a superpower?

[Fartsniffage]

First with a rover, then with people.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/31 ... this_year/




Glad to see some more work in space from China. Maybe this'll put a bit of pressure on the US to ramp up their work.

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

Haven't the militaries of the world done enough damage right here on Earth?

How about we leave space to science for the moment and share data like a civilised race.

[Aequalitia]

Anyway, back to the actual topic... If someone else gets to the moon before we go back, well, that's our own fucking fault, now isn't it?

Its the fault of the politicians who got no good heart for spaceflight. There just cut and cut on NASA. If there was already 1% of the DoD funds would be replaced to NASA, you would see much more cool things. You would see a future with the US as a big one in spaceflight.

[Nevanmaa]

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Oh yes, we helped to overthrow the Soviet puppet who had crushed civil rights in Chile with unconstitutional reforms and then proceeded to help a patriotic Chilean to punish the traitorous communists for their crimes against Chile. What about it?

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.
I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

Fun in fiction... Not so much in nonfiction.

[God Kefka]

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

Haven't the militaries of the world done enough damage right here on Earth?

How about we leave space to science for the moment and share data like a civilised race.

Why is it in the USA's interest to share what it can completely own?

[Slafstopia]

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

It will be in the future...

The USA has a huge almost completely unassailable advantage in space weapons right now. It should take advantage of this temporary advantage to establish a space empire before the other countries catch up.

In the future, it's likely that control of minerals and resources in outer space could determine prosperity of nations on Earth.

The USA should play hard ball and start making claims. The moon would be a GREAT place to start.

The Chinese will do it first if the USA doesn't... they are already on track to the moon as the OP has said. USA can knock out this possibility... claim the moon!

Why should the USA share space with others when it can monopolize it as befits a superpower?

...The fact that you think it's likely to be able to control minerals and resources from OUTER FUCKING SPACE in the future just shows that your arguments are horrible and you know little-to-nothing about astronomy.

[Regnum Dominae]

Seriously what the fuck? Syria is at this point a giant clusterfuck, our only involvement should be to send humanitarian aid to the civilians caught in the middle.

The conflict needs to end to prevent any needless civilian casualties. The best way to end it is to intervene and establish a democratic pro-Western government.

What has Iran done to deserve being declared war on?

Overthrowing the Shah and generally violating human rights of millions of people.

1: We don't NEED TO. The Ni\z's are floating cities.

Yes we do. Right now the Nimitzes are doing just fine, but they'll be outdated in 10-20 years and we'll have to start replacing them with the Gerald Ford class. The problem is that we're not constructing enough Gerald R. Fords compared to the retirement rate of the old Nimitzes. Thus, the US Navy will have less than 11 aircraft carriers which is the bare minimum set by the DoD.

2: Thus we have B-52's, AC-130's and F-22 ("Upgrading" To the F-35's)

Yes, we'll be using 100-year old bombers in a few decades. Might as well start constructing Spitfires for the USAF. F-22 and F-35 are constant failures; we'll be forced to rely on F-15s and F-16s for a long, long, looong time.
What you don't seem to understand that while F-16s are good right now, they'll be severly outdated within the next decade. That's why we gotta plan ahead.

3: Why would the Finish be involving in Syria? The US Should not we don't need another fucking ground war

Maybe we'd get a sensible government that understands the importance of human rights? And actually you do. America must liberate the people of Syria and Iran.

You're not American. Stop saying "we".

[Fartsniffage]

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.

I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

Danny Boy to the Doctor....Danny Boy to the Doctor.....

[God Kefka]

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.

I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

Exactly... we need to start militarizing space to try and stop that stuff too...

If the USA takes leadership of the space world, it's for the betterment of everyone.

[Galloism]

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.
I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

Fun in fiction... Not so much in nonfiction.

I don't remember who said it, but...

"There are only two possibilities: we are either alone in the universe, or not. Both possibilities are terrifying."

[Horizont]

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Oh yes, we helped to overthrow the Soviet puppet who had crushed civil rights in Chile with unconstitutional reforms and then proceeded to help a patriotic Chilean to punish the traitorous communists for their crimes against Chile. What about it?

Stop saying "we". I can't actually quite comprehend how people with such opinions can actually exist...

[Fartsniffage]

Haven't the militaries of the world done enough damage right here on Earth?

How about we leave space to science for the moment and share data like a civilised race.

Why is it in the USA's interest to share what it can completely own?

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

[Bojikami]

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Oh yes, we helped to overthrow the Soviet puppet who had crushed civil rights in Chile with unconstitutional reforms and then proceeded to help a patriotic Chilean to punish the traitorous communists for their crimes against Chile. What about it?

No, what the AMERICANS did was overthrow a democratically elected Marxist and helped install a dictator. But as long as he wasn't a communist, amirite?

[Galloism]

Why is it in the USA's interest to share what it can completely own?

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

I mean, that's true.

At best, it can only last a thousand years or so.

[Slafstopia]

But what about when the aliens attack? If we don't have space weapons, they can bombard the planet with impunity.

I mean, it'll be like World War 2... in space.

Exactly... we need to start militarizing space to try and stop that stuff too...

If the USA takes leadership of the space world, it's for the betterment of everyone.

Orbital missiles would be largely impractical. If you tried to aim for, let's say, Moscow using an orbital missile, you'd probably miss by a massive margin, due to the rotation of the Earth and the time it takes to burn retrograde sufficiently. Lrn2orbit.

[God Kefka]

It will be in the future...

The USA has a huge almost completely unassailable advantage in space weapons right now. It should take advantage of this temporary advantage to establish a space empire before the other countries catch up.

In the future, it's likely that control of minerals and resources in outer space could determine prosperity of nations on Earth.

The USA should play hard ball and start making claims. The moon would be a GREAT place to start.

The Chinese will do it first if the USA doesn't... they are already on track to the moon as the OP has said. USA can knock out this possibility... claim the moon!

Why should the USA share space with others when it can monopolize it as befits a superpower?

...The fact that you think it's likely to be able to control minerals and resources from OUTER FUCKING SPACE in the future just shows that your arguments are horrible and you know little-to-nothing about astronomy.

Of course you can harvest resources from other planets as well as Earth.

Plus, even if we have not yet discovered anything valuable for NOW it doesn't mean we won't in the future? In the future we may (very likely) find some kind of extremely precious resource in outer space.

At that point its in the USA's interest to have the weapons to forcefully claim them... the other powers (China, Russia etc) won't play nice so why should we?

Plus colonizing the moon gives us more land. Also, who knows what we may find in the future under the surface of the moon?

[Qahadim]

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

It shouldn't be entirely peaceful. A star wars scenario is bound to happen in space. War always had, and will be, an unavoidable human occurrence. There isn't any shame in taking some precautionary measures to be prepared for interstellar conflict. Should it be our main focus? No. But it should be given some focus nonetheless.

[Fartsniffage]

Such hubris to imagine an American Empire would fare any better than any other empire in history.

I mean, that's true.

At best, it can only last a thousand years or so.

US first reich?

[New Chalcedon]

Has China been to the Moon before?

I shouldn't try making threads when I'm sick.

*fixes title*

D'awww.... you'll get better soon, Div. *huggles*

[Aequalitia]

Exactly... we need to start militarizing space to try and stop that stuff too...

If the USA takes leadership of the space world, it's for the betterment of everyone.

Orbital missiles would be largely impractical. If you tried to aim for, let's say, Moscow using an orbital missile, you'd probably miss by a massive margin, due to the rotation of the Earth and the time it takes to burn retrograde sufficiently. Lrn2orbit.

Doh, Orbital missiles prototypes existed already, by the Soviet side

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

I mean, that's true.
At best, it can only last a thousand years or so.

US first reich?

Please don't give them any ideas...