China to go to the Moon

[Yes Im Biop]

We have GMG's

You're referring to HK GMG I assume? So what?

We have 13 NUCLEAR CARRIERS

And we're not constructing Gerald R. Fords fast enough to replace the Nimitzes. The United States Navy is going to drop below the absolute required minimum of 11 carriers within the next decade.

We have B-2's Wanna guess why? Because of the MASSIVE budget.

B-2s are still too expensive to use on routine missions. The US Armed Forces needs a viable and affordable successor for the B-52.

A Third? Well lets see. The biggest wat we have officially fought in the past 20 years was the Gulf war.

Unfortunately, that's true. Hopefully we'll be intervening in Syria and Iran soon enough.

We need to shrink it.

Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

1: We don't NEED TO. The Ni\z's are floating cities.

2: Thus we have B-52's, AC-130's and F-22 ("Upgrading" To the F-35's)

3: Why would the Finish be involving in Syria? The US Should not we don't need another fucking ground war

4:Because it's not our fucking Job. The UN was made for a reason

[Altarak]

Please, actually review our military before acting like you know something about it. It's very insulting. Our military spend more than something like the next 5-10 top spenders combined. Now tell me we need to spend even more.

I know that. That doesn't change the facts that countries like Russia and China are rapidly modernizing and growing their militaries. The US needs to keep the distance between these abodes of evil as big as possible, and the only way to do that is to start a huge reorganization program, like Reagan did.

How about we install space nukes?

[Bojikami]

We have GMG's

You're referring to HK GMG I assume? So what?

We have 13 NUCLEAR CARRIERS

And we're not constructing Gerald R. Fords fast enough to replace the Nimitzes. The United States Navy is going to drop below the absolute required minimum of 11 carriers within the next decade.

We have B-2's Wanna guess why? Because of the MASSIVE budget.

B-2s are still too expensive to use on routine missions. The US Armed Forces needs a viable and affordable successor for the B-52.

A Third? Well lets see. The biggest wat we have officially fought in the past 20 years was the Gulf war.

Unfortunately, that's true. Hopefully we'll be intervening in Syria and Iran soon enough.

We need to shrink it.

Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

[Aequalitia]

I know that. That doesn't change the facts that countries like Russia and China are rapidly modernizing and growing their militaries. The US needs to keep the distance between these abodes of evil as big as possible, and the only way to do that is to start a huge reorganization program, like Reagan did.

How about we install space nukes?

What about project Orion! Yes!

[Regnum Dominae]

I know that. That doesn't change the facts that countries like Russia and China are rapidly modernizing and growing their militaries. The US needs to keep the distance between these abodes of evil as big as possible, and the only way to do that is to start a huge reorganization program, like Reagan did.

How about we install space nukes?

No.

Space exploration should be for peaceful purposes.

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

People need to liberate themselves... on THEIR terms... whether you like those terms or not.

[Yes Im Biop]

How about we install space nukes?

What about project Orion! Yes!

Orion is a nuclear engine

[Agritum]

How about we install space nukes?

No.

Space exploration should be for peaceful purposes.

Unless the Covenant find us.

[Horizont]

How about we install space nukes?

What about project Orion! Yes!

At least Orion is for peaceful research. I actually think they should look at Orion again- but build it in orbit so it doesn't nuke us on its way to space.

[Leningrad Union]

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[Leningrad Union]

When will America go back to the moon?

[Fartsniffage]

Any danger of a discussion about China and the Moon breaking out in this thread about the habits of Hippopotamus amphibius?

No?

[Regnum Dominae]

You're referring to HK GMG I assume? So what?


And we're not constructing Gerald R. Fords fast enough to replace the Nimitzes. The United States Navy is going to drop below the absolute required minimum of 11 carriers within the next decade.


B-2s are still too expensive to use on routine missions. The US Armed Forces needs a viable and affordable successor for the B-52.


Unfortunately, that's true. Hopefully we'll be intervening in Syria and Iran soon enough.


Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Remember, Pinochet wasn't a dictator who killed thousands of people for no reason, he brought freedom and liberty to the people!

I don't like Allende but that coup was beyond absurd. Even though i support anerican interventionism, I'm happy that the CIA doesn't treat South America as its playground the way it used to.

[Regnum Dominae]

Hello Leningrad Union, how are you?

Good, you?

Stop spamming.

[The Sovietyeto]

Please, actually review our military before acting like you know something about it. It's very insulting. Our military spend more than something like the next 5-10 top spenders combined. Now tell me we need to spend even more.

I know that. That doesn't change the facts that countries like Russia and China are rapidly modernizing and growing their militaries. The US needs to keep the distance between these abodes of evil as big as possible, and the only way to do that is to start a huge reorganization program, like Reagan did.

If by modern you mean technology from the 90's then yes. America has 11 aircraft carriers. It's working on two more... Italy has the second most, with two carriers. And since when are China and Russia evil? Since when did Reagen's military buildup reduce the deficit and debt? We have so much debt because we do spend too much on our military. On this topic the most you can claim is ignorance.

[Horizont]

Any danger of a discussion about China and the Moon breaking out in this thread about the habits of Hippopotamus amphibius?

No?

I agree, can we get back on topic now? Please?

[Regnum Dominae]

Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

People need to liberate themselves... on THEIR terms... whether you like those terms or not.

Not always true.

But hippo's America fetish goes WAAAAY too far and makes moderate interventionists like me look stupid in the process.

[Belligerent Alcoholics]

Anyway, back to the actual topic... If someone else gets to the moon before we go back, well, that's our own fucking fault, now isn't it?

[God Kefka]

First with a rover, then with people.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/31 ... this_year/

China has confirmed it is on track to land a rover on the Moon later this year to scoot across the surface analyzing dust and rock samples.

"Chang'e-3 has officially entered its launch stage, following its research and manufacture period," reports the official Chinese news agency Xinhua.

The Chang'e-3 probe, first revealed last year, is a 100kg, six-wheeled rover that will spend three months traversing the lunar landscape under human control. The spacecraft will use the Moon's gravity to slow down, orbit the satellite, and then soft-land using rocket propulsion.

This will be the first time the Chinese have landed a spacecraft on a non-terrestrial surface and the Chang'e-3 will be a crucial test of both Chinese aeronautics and rocketry control systems. The rover will pave the way for a future manned mission to the Moon, and a possible space colony on the surface.

"The Chang'e-3 mission makes best use of a plethora of innovative technology. It is an extremely difficult mission, that carries great risk," said Ma Xingrui, head of China's space exploration body and chief commander of the lunar program.

The first Chang'e probe was launched 2007 and completed a 3D map of the Moon's surface before being intentionally crashed into the planetoid. Chang'e 2, launched in 2010, carried out further mapping 100km off the Moon's surface before being directed out to fly by the asteroid Toutatis and is now heading out into the Solar System.

Like NASA's early rovers on Mars, the Chang'e-3 will be primarily solar powered and will carry a ground-facing radar on its belly capable of penetrating up to 30 meters into the lunar regolith, as well as a alpha particle X-ray spectrometer and an infrared spectrometer.

China plans a manned mission to the lunar surface possibly as soon as 2017 – although he authorities aren’t setting themselves a Kennedyesque deadline and say they'll go when they are ready. Once there, however, the Chinese government has said it plans to build the first manned lunar outpost, an objective NASA has already abandoned.

Glad to see some more work in space from China. Maybe this'll put a bit of pressure on the US to ramp up their work.

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

[Bojikami]

What about when America helped spread "freedom and democracy" to Chile in 1973?

Remember, Pinochet wasn't a dictator who killed thousands of people for no reason, he brought freedom and liberty to the people!

I don't like Allende but that coup was beyond absurd. Even though i support anerican interventionism, I'm happy that the CIA doesn't treat South America as its playground the way it used to.

Yep. Because a dictator who rose to power via coup, is more democratic that a Marxist who was elected by his own people.

[Napkiraly]

Why don't you want the US military to be able to liberate people and spread freedom and democracy?

People need to liberate themselves... on THEIR terms... whether you like those terms or not.

Not always. Sometimes intervention is necessary to help them out.

If you're American, I'd like to point out y'all were helped out big time by other powers.

[Aequalitia]

What about project Orion! Yes!

At least Orion is for peaceful research. I actually think they should look at Orion again- but build it in orbit so it doesn't nuke us on its way to space.

Indeed, long life nuclear spacecrafts!

[Hatsunia]

I can't wait to see humanity return to the Moon.

[Regnum Dominae]

First with a rover, then with people.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/31 ... this_year/




Glad to see some more work in space from China. Maybe this'll put a bit of pressure on the US to ramp up their work.

WOW!

The USA really needs to get on it then.

They need to quickly militarize space and take land ownership of the moon.

Right now the USA has the most capability to enforce its claims in outer space. America would become the world's most powerful space power.

Can't have the Chinese threaten us. They are on track to the moon, we got to step it out.

No. Space exploration should be peaceful. This isn't fucking Star Wars.

[Horizont]

At least Orion is for peaceful research. I actually think they should look at Orion again- but build it in orbit so it doesn't nuke us on its way to space.

Indeed, long life nuclear spacecrafts!

Yes! I mean, there were plans for flying cities that could go all the way out to Saturn. Tell me that's not awesome.