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Stop the trains, there are kittens on the loose!

Postby Nevanmaa » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:03 am

If there's a city that cares about kittens, it New York City: Basically, some kittens got loose in the New York Subway and the MTA had to stop the service on two lines for almost two hours so the kittens could be retrieved. How the kittens ended up in the tunnel is a mystery, but they luckily didn't manage to electrocute themselves :p

Following this incident, there has been some discussion on whether it is appropriate to shut down a fairly major part of the busiest rapid transit system in the country for missing kittens. Several major candidates said that they agreed that the response to missing kittens was appropriate, but several people thought that the response was a bit overkill. As Alex Davies, a Business Insider reporter, put it "I'm pro-cat, but this is absurd." I must say that I agree with him.

So, what do you think NSG? Are kittens important enough to shut down a vital part of the New York transport network for almost two hours?

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New Yorkers disagree about subway stop for missing kittens
Power was cut to the B and Q lines in Brooklyn after a woman reported Thursday that her kittens were loose in the nation’s largest subway system, transit officials said.

NEW YORK — A candidate for mayor of New York, who also is former head of the city’s subway system, said he wouldn’t have stopped the subway because two lost kittens were scrambling along the tracks.

On Thursday, the Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) cut power on two Brooklyn subway lines for more than an hour as the two pets scurried around the tracks. The cats were rescued about seven hours later.

A spokesman for Joe Lhota, ex-chairman of the MTA and mayoral candidate, told The New York Post Friday that shutting down subway service for lost cats is not appropriate.

Other mayoral hopefuls told the paper they would’ve stopped the trains.

Officials say kittens Arthur and August are being treated in a shelter.

Power was cut to the B and Q lines in Brooklyn after a woman reported Thursday morning that her kittens were loose in the nation’s largest subway system, transit officials said.

How they got there was a mystery. But they were seen running dangerously close to the high-voltage third rail.

Their owner rushed to a subway station with cat food for transit workers dispatched onto the tracks to use to try to corral them.

Power was suspended between several stops — about half the Q line and the B line’s entire service in Brooklyn — on the local and express tracks for 90 minutes, MTA spokeswoman Judie Glave said.

But the skittish kittens disappeared again before being discovered Thursday evening under the third rail of an aboveground express track. Police officers removed the kittens in crates, Glave said.

Some passengers wanted to help by scouring the tracks, but were turned down by MTA workers citing safety concerns.

While the effort on behalf of the kittens created delays for passengers, the Q operated a shuttle service between two of its normal Brooklyn stops, said transit officials, who couldn’t immediately provide the cost of the extra service.

In the past, New York City has been known to grow invested in tales of cat rescue. Many cheered on Jack the Cat, lost in a baggage area at Kennedy International Airport in 2011, but found two months later on site. Then there was Willow, a calico from Colorado, who turned up on Manhattan’s East Side five years after escaping from home.

But the circumstances Thursday presented a wrinkle: It is easy to root for a search that has little downside; one that snarls train service is another matter.

“I’m pro-cat,” Alex Davies, a reporter for Business Insider, posted on Twitter, “but this is absurd.”

The authority said that animals like dogs and raccoons occasionally disrupted service. Three weeks ago, a small shark was found aboard a Queens-bound N train, bewildering passengers in Manhattan. But the train completed its run to Astoria-Ditmars Boulevard.

Gene Russianoff, a lawyer, said the decision to shut down service was understandable given the time of day.

But he noted that not all creatures of the rails would be afforded the same treatment.

“For the rats,” he said, “they probably speed up the train.”
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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:10 am

i have no doubt there would be least one person, possibly you yourself, complaining if the trains got wrecked because of a homeless guy on the tracks

so i'm basing my response on that

are my trains more important than the life of a man, or a cat, as it so happened to be?

and my answers are respectively no and probably not

e: the rails of the subway should been lubricated with the blood of the kittens, so i could get to my places faster.
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Postby Ljvonia » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:13 am

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e: the rails of the subway should been lubricated with the blood of the kittens, so i could get to my places faster.


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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:15 am

Souseiseki wrote:are my trains more important than the life of a man
Fuck no.
, or a cat, as it so happened to be?

Probably yes.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:16 am

Kittens are very important, please don't kill the babies. :(
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Postby Risottia » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:23 am

Nevanmaa wrote:Are kittens important enough to shut down a vital part of the New York transport network for almost two hours?


Yes.
I don't know why it took them two hours to capture some kittens, though.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:24 am

We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:26 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.

You do? :blink:
What's the point of a shelter then?
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Postby Lackadaisical Hopes » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:30 am

I say this just proves that there is still good people in the world. Also what would happen if the city just left them? And someone found out. And told the crazy animal rights group? Imagine the shit storm then...
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Postby Azabad » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:30 am

Risottia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.

You do? :blink:
What's the point of a shelter then?

Maybe it's a "shelter". You know, it could be a chain cat-slaughterhouse called the Shelters.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:31 am

a life is more important that a train. besides, that is the risk of the subway. you don't like it, go take a taxi.
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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:32 am

Risottia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.

You do? :blink:
What's the point of a shelter then?



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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:33 am

Risottia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.

You do? :blink:
What's the point of a shelter then?

To stop stray animals from reproducing to ruination of neighborhoods, mostly.
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Postby Risottia » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:34 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Risottia wrote:You do? :blink:
What's the point of a shelter then?

To stop stray animals from reproducing to ruination of neighborhoods, mostly.

Why call them "shelters" instead of "stray culling centres" or something like that?

But I guess I'm digressing.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:35 am

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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:36 am

United States of Natan wrote:a life is more important that a train. besides, that is the risk of the subway. you don't like it, go take a taxi.


but what if there's a kitten on the road?!

actually that makes me wonder as well

i severely doubt anyone that will argue in favour the aforementioned kitten blood scenario would be in support of trucks just plowing through a bunch of cows in the cases they escape. maybe it's because it's more indirect?
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Postby South American Indochina » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:36 am

Stop the train, but make the owner of the kittens really pay for it.
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Postby Azabad » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:37 am

South American Indochina wrote:Stop the train, but make the owner of the kittens really pay for it.

That's if they had owners to begin with. We don't know if they were stray kitties or not. >.>
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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:37 am

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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:38 am

Azabad wrote:
South American Indochina wrote:Stop the train, but make the owner of the kittens really pay for it.

That's if they had owners to begin with. We don't know if they were stray kitties or not. >.>

no, we know for 100% definite they were not stray.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:39 am

Risottia wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:To stop stray animals from reproducing to ruination of neighborhoods, mostly.

Why call them "shelters" instead of "stray culling centres" or something like that?

But I guess I'm digressing.

Because they hold onto the animals for a while and try to give them homes, they don't just take them in and kill them (unless they're vicious).
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Postby Azabad » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:39 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Azabad wrote:That's if they had owners to begin with. We don't know if they were stray kitties or not. >.>

no, we know for 100% definite they were not stray.

Well, I did skim over the article; I probably missed that part. >.> Sorry.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:40 am

The Parkus Empire wrote:We kill a couple hundred animals in shelters every day. This is just silly.


Why do you kill animals in shelters?

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Postby Castagnera Alta » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:40 am

The kittens! Somebody think about the kittens!!!

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Postby South American Indochina » Sat Aug 31, 2013 1:42 am

Azabad wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:no, we know for 100% definite they were not stray.

Well, I did skim over the article; I probably missed that part. >.> Sorry.

No problem. Just fine the owner for shutting down public transportation lines and neglecting their pets. Then the poor little kitty cats can call it even.
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