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How would you like to see Russia form in the Future

Durmvirate - ( Government-Military Alliance )
17
24%
Reformed Socialist State
31
44%
Union State - ( Russia joins surrounding area like Kazakhstan )
23
32%
 
Total votes : 71

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:53 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Beta Test wrote:I was thinking this was going to be about the TV network. What a misleading title.

The best misleading title was 'Is it right to hate certain races?' Turns out it was about these races.


It's a way of luring in NSGers interested in the proper issues.
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Shofercia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Shofercia » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:54 am

Luveria wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Anyone else think this thread was going to be about RT? :P

Yes, I'm disappointed.


Maklohi Vai wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Anyone else think this thread was going to be about RT? :P

*raises hand*


The Romanov Russia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Anyone else think this thread was going to be about RT? :P


Absolutely ;)


Seitonjin wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Anyone else think this thread was going to be about RT? :P

I'm really cry.


Genivaria wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Anyone else think this thread was going to be about RT? :P

Yes actually I did.


I :wub: ya NSG!
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:57 am

OP makes absurd opening statement and then vanishes.
Boring.

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Maklohi Vai
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:57 am

Shofercia wrote:
Luveria wrote:Yes, I'm disappointed.


Maklohi Vai wrote:*raises hand*


The Romanov Russia wrote:
Absolutely ;)


Seitonjin wrote:I'm really cry.


Genivaria wrote:Yes actually I did.


I :wub: ya NSG!

Even better: title a thread Fox News and make it about vulpes.
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Luveria
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Luveria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:02 am

Beta Test wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:The best misleading title was 'Is it right to hate certain races?' Turns out it was about these races.


It's a way of luring in NSGers interested in the proper issues.

I'm wondering what we're supposed to discuss from the silly and entirely wrong OP.

I guess we're expected to ignore how full of holes the OP is and instead discuss if we favour:

1) A junta. ( WHY!? )

2) Another USSR. (WHY!? x2)

3) Apparently forcing states like Kazakhstan join, which would be really shitty for gay people in Kazakhstan. ( but why force them to join? )
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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:04 am

Luveria wrote:
Beta Test wrote:
It's a way of luring in NSGers interested in the proper issues.

I'm wondering what we're supposed to discuss from the silly and entirely wrong OP.

I guess we're expected to ignore how how full of holes the OP is and instead discuss if we favour:

1) A junta. ( WHY!? )

2) Another USSR. (WHY!? x2)

3) Apparently forcing states like Kazakhstan join, which would be really shitty for gay people in Kazakhstan. ( but why force them to join? )


It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.
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Luveria
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Luveria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:05 am

Beta Test wrote:
Luveria wrote:I'm wondering what we're supposed to discuss from the silly and entirely wrong OP.

I guess we're expected to ignore how full of holes the OP is and instead discuss if we favour:

1) A junta. ( WHY!? )

2) Another USSR. (WHY!? x2)

3) Apparently forcing states like Kazakhstan join, which would be really shitty for gay people in Kazakhstan. ( but why force them to join? )


It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.


They'd be exploited again just like back in the old USSR days.
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Wolfmanne
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:05 am

Beta Test wrote:
Luveria wrote:I'm wondering what we're supposed to discuss from the silly and entirely wrong OP.

I guess we're expected to ignore how how full of holes the OP is and instead discuss if we favour:

1) A junta. ( WHY!? )

2) Another USSR. (WHY!? x2)

3) Apparently forcing states like Kazakhstan join, which would be really shitty for gay people in Kazakhstan. ( but why force them to join? )


It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.

How so? Didn't you know they have the greatest prostitute in the world and that all other countries are little girls?
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:06 am

Beta Test wrote:
Luveria wrote:I'm wondering what we're supposed to discuss from the silly and entirely wrong OP.

I guess we're expected to ignore how how full of holes the OP is and instead discuss if we favour:

1) A junta. ( WHY!? )

2) Another USSR. (WHY!? x2)

3) Apparently forcing states like Kazakhstan join, which would be really shitty for gay people in Kazakhstan. ( but why force them to join? )


It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.

Kazakhstan's interests completely align with that of Moscow's, anyone who says otherwise is Gay Nazi *nods*.

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Maklohi Vai
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Founded: Jan 07, 2012
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:06 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
Beta Test wrote:
It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.

How so? Didn't you know they have the greatest prostitute in the world and that all other countries are little girls?

Wolf, stop with the Borat videos. We already know Kazakhstan #1 exporter of potassium.
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Luveria
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Luveria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:07 am

Genivaria wrote:
Beta Test wrote:
It wouldn't help Kazakhstan in anyway. Their interests would be ignored completely by Moscow.

Kazakhstan's interests completely align with that of Moscow's, anyone who says otherwise is Gay Nazi *nods*.

But I'm not gay and I'm not a nazi.

*gets arrested for promoting homosexual propaganda*

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Bagpush
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Founded: Aug 30, 2013
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Postby Bagpush » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:10 am

I fear this is a Russian government bot......

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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:12 am

Luveria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Kazakhstan's interests completely align with that of Moscow's, anyone who says otherwise is Gay Nazi *nods*.

But I'm not gay and I'm not a nazi.

*gets arrested for promoting homosexual propaganda*

*beats with nightstick* Be silent Nazi!

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Voldoviana
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Postby Voldoviana » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:12 am

Damn I thought this was going to be about the TV channel.

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Luveria
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Founded: Feb 22, 2013
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Postby Luveria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:13 am

Genivaria wrote:
Luveria wrote:But I'm not gay and I'm not a nazi.

*gets arrested for promoting homosexual propaganda*

*beats with nightstick* Be silent Nazi!

"P-please officer! Stop beating me! I confess! I'm a lesbian!"

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Bagpush
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Founded: Aug 30, 2013
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Postby Bagpush » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:13 am

Genivaria wrote:
Luveria wrote:But I'm not gay and I'm not a nazi.

*gets arrested for promoting homosexual propaganda*

*beats with nightstick* Be silent Nazi!

*gets in*

Comrade, (s)he is my prisoner. Get away.
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Ignasia (Ancient)
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Postby Ignasia (Ancient) » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:13 am

Interesting question. I really don't know what I'd prefer Russia to be. I figure it will either go back to some form of limited socialism or become some kind of strange oligarchic state. Either way Russia has a long way to go to heal it's wounds.

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Beta Test
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:14 am

Voldoviana wrote:Damn I thought this was going to be about the TV channel.


Welcome to the club.
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:15 am

Luveria wrote:
Genivaria wrote:*beats with nightstick* Be silent Nazi!

"P-please officer! Stop beating me! I confess! I'm a lesbian!"

*pause, officers look at each other*........*continues beating*

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Bagpush
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Postby Bagpush » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:17 am

Genivaria wrote:
Luveria wrote:"P-please officer! Stop beating me! I confess! I'm a lesbian!"

*pause, officers look at each other*........*continues beating*

*pulls out pistol*

I say we kill her now! She knows too much!

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Greater Eurasian Union
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Founded: Aug 29, 2013
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Postby Greater Eurasian Union » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:21 am

Firstly Russia Today is an awesome channel 8)

Secondly the name was just a random draw up - I also noticed most of you are sadly not russian. you must all view russians as stupid and incapable of good english and political understand.

Thirdly - It's perfectly okay for Westernists to make jokes of this thread it wasn't truly meant to address their fantasy views of Russia.

And We willingly oppress homosexuals - you know why because it's wrong - people don't always voice correct views - your governments simply accept everything that is lugged at them -

Fourthly - there are actually other russians than in Moscow and Saint Petersburg which is the only thing you people focus on - Im not being forced to write this - im patriotic - ( And im sure you'll all call me brainwashed )

I ignore perjorative statements - this was a mature political discussion for a certain nationality -
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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:25 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Am I the only one seeing this change here in 10 years?

It's already legal.

I mean they making it illegal again.
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Maklohi Vai
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:26 am

Greater Eurasian Union wrote:Secondly the name was just a random draw up - I also noticed most of you are sadly not russian. you must all view russians as stupid and incapable of good english and political understand.
No, most Russians I know are very intelligent people who speak English proportionately better than many other immigrant groups. Where do you get these stereotypes?

And We willingly oppress homosexuals - you know why because it's wrong - people don't always voice correct views - your governments simply accept everything that is lugged at them -
Why is homosexuality wrong?

Fourthly - there are actually other russians than in Moscow and Saint Petersburg which is the only thing you people focus on
Oh, please source that. Please, I'd love to see it.
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-Kamanakai Oa'a Pani, first president of Maklohi Vai
-6.13/-8.51 - as of 7/18
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Abraham Kamassi, Chair, Labour Party of Elizia
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Genivaria
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:26 am

Greater Eurasian Union wrote:Firstly Russia Today is an awesome channel 8)

Secondly the name was just a random draw up - I also noticed most of you are sadly not russian. you must all view russians as stupid and incapable of good english and political understand.

Thirdly - It's perfectly okay for Westernists to make jokes of this thread it wasn't truly meant to address their fantasy views of Russia.

And We willingly oppress homosexuals - you know why because it's wrong - people don't always voice correct views - your governments simply accept everything that is lugged at them -

Fourthly - there are actually other russians than in Moscow and Saint Petersburg which is the only thing you people focus on - Im not being forced to write this - im patriotic - ( And im sure you'll all call me brainwashed )

I ignore perjorative statements - this was a mature political discussion for a certain nationality -

Wow what a giant load of shit.
And no there's nothing 'wrong' with homosexuality, most civilized countries understand that.

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:29 am

Greater Eurasian Union wrote:you must all view russians as stupid and incapable of good english and political understand.

Not really. We REALLY REALLY love our fellow posters from Eastern Europe. They tend to be awesome, kind, intelligent and reasonable people.
Greater Eurasian Union wrote:And We willingly oppress homosexuals - you know why because it's wrong - people don't always voice correct views.

Good that you admit that oppressing homosexuals is wrong and incorrect then. Only if you could be a bit more critical of those doing it as any person respecting his/her brain and individuality. :rofl:
Aequalitia's bromancey mancrush.
Test: Seemingly, libertarian communism was renamed "social democracy"
Compass: economic left -9.85, social libertarian -8.97
Socio-Economic Ideology: Democratic Socialist (92% ditto/Marxist, 75% Anarchist/Social democrat, 0% etc)

Born 12/94. Weird in all senses starting at 07/2000. NSG's resident euro-carioca bara-fudanshi useless lazy perv. Agnostic atheist (not anti-religious), bi-affective homosexual/demiheterosexual (and bi-curious i.e. chronologically 95% bisexual-ish but 5% true bi), slightly more masculine of both tad neutral and tad ambiguous gender (human-/oneself-identified genderqueer; he, xe or ou, your preference), naturist, "worker" class, mildly hipster/japanophile, etc.

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