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PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:36 am
by CTALNH
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I obey the state because I choose to obey the state.

If you chose not to, the state would make you.

Let them try.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:36 am
by Zottistan
CTALNH wrote:
Zottistan wrote:You're a statist, aren't you? The state commands often unearned authority.

I obey the state because I choose to obey the state.

And you could choose to disobey god without killing it.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:38 am
by Bendira
If you are against monarchy then you should be an anti-theist

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:39 am
by CTALNH
Zottistan wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I obey the state because I choose to obey the state.

And you could choose to disobey god without killing it.

Yes you see all Gods have the I rule over you even if you disobey me.

Well nobody rules me except myself.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:39 am
by Bendira
CTALNH wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:If you chose not to, the state would make you.

Let them try.


Lol, ok Rambo, good luck fighting the state.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:41 am
by CTALNH
Bendira wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Let them try.


Lol, ok Rambo, good luck fighting the state.

Insurrection is not a right its a duty!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:41 am
by Zottistan
CTALNH wrote:
Zottistan wrote:And you could choose to disobey god without killing it.

Yes you see all Gods have the I rule over you even if you disobey me.

Well nobody rules me except myself.

The state has that, too. That's why they punish you.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:41 am
by Jamessonia
CTALNH wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:I'm not saying I would respect him. I'm only asking if it would be physically possible for a mortal to kill a (theoretical) god?

Who says their omnipotent and powerful?

If they're not are they gods? What separates them from people besides immortality and power?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:44 am
by CTALNH
Jamessonia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Who says their omnipotent and powerful?

If they're not are they gods? What separates them from people besides immortality and power?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:45 am
by The Land of Truth
Bendira wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Let them try.


Lol, ok Rambo, good luck fighting the state.

It's really not that hard.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:02 am
by Zottistan
The Land of Truth wrote:
Bendira wrote:
Lol, ok Rambo, good luck fighting the state.

It's really not that hard.

Everybody would overthrow the government if it were easy.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:05 am
by CTALNH
Zottistan wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:It's really not that hard.

Everybody would overthrow the government if it were easy.

Logistically speaking its hard us fuck.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:51 am
by Cameroi
for any human to define god is an absurdity. whatever god, gods or godlike beings, see fit to exist, owe NOTHING to anything anyone claims to know about them.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:25 am
by The Land of Truth
Zottistan wrote:
The Land of Truth wrote:It's really not that hard.

Everybody would overthrow the government if it were easy.

Why is "overthrowing the government" the only way you can fight the state?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:57 pm
by Free Soviets
Jamessonia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:If I met a god I would kill him.

But wouldn't that be impossible? If that was possible would he be a god?

depends on the god. many traditions hold that gods can die, after all. including a rather prominent one...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:07 pm
by Shaggai
Free Soviets wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:But wouldn't that be impossible? If that was possible would he be a god?

depends on the god. many traditions hold that gods can die, after all. including a rather prominent one...

You mean "every single Norse god"?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:09 pm
by New Lesbos
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New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Jamessonia wrote:But wouldn't that be impossible? If that was possible would he be a god?

To be quite honest, any being proclaiming itself your ruler should not be treated with respect beyond that which all living things deserve. Nobody is your master and that is how it should be.

I second this.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:40 pm
by Anachronous Rex
Shaggai wrote:
Free Soviets wrote:depends on the god. many traditions hold that gods can die, after all. including a rather prominent one...

You mean "every single Norse god"?

Except Baldur. And two humans who camped out in a forest that survived Surtr's flame.

Wait a minute...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:11 pm
by Yumyumsuppertime
Bendira wrote:If you are against monarchy then you should be an anti-theist


Nonsense.

"No man is my King. Only God."

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:12 pm
by Warda
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Bendira wrote:If you are against monarchy then you should be an anti-theist


Nonsense.

"No man is my King. Only God."

what if ur king is ur god

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:21 pm
by Anachronous Rex
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Bendira wrote:If you are against monarchy then you should be an anti-theist


Nonsense.

"No man is my King. Only God."

Two words too long.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:57 am
by CTALNH
Jamessonia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:If I met a god I would kill him.

But wouldn't that be impossible? If that was possible would he be a god?

jesus died.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:59 am
by Ponylandes
I believe Anti-Theists are just as ignorant as fundamental Christians. People can believe in what they want to believe in, as long as it makes them happy and does not hurt anyone.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:01 am
by Aurora Novus
Ponylandes wrote:I believe Anti-Theists are just as ignorant as fundamental Christians.


Yes, because disagreeing with something and opposing it based on rational premises and evaluations of harm is completely the same as believing in something dogmatically because someone in authority has decreed it.

Completely.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:17 am
by CTALNH
Ponylandes wrote:I believe Anti-Theists are just as ignorant as fundamental Christians. People can believe in what they want to believe in, as long as it makes them happy and does not hurt anyone.

Nah we are just self conscious assholes.

Contrary to the hypocritical assholes.