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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:52 pm
by The Rich Port
Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:52 pm
by Tlaceceyaya
Chishimotata wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:52 pm
by Sociobiology
Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:It's not copy pasta when you wrote it yourself.

The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Wolfmanne
Chishimotata wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

I just said we are Apes.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Pandeeria
Ok guys, we should really stop thread jacking. If someone wants to make another thread about if God is real or not I'll contribute but keep it off this thread.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Chishimotata
Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

I know we're primates. I should have phrased it better though, but it's true that we share a common ancestor.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:53 pm
by Wolfmanne
Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

Hey, I made a mistake, I know we are Apes.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm
by Lydenburg
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.


Quite. So I read the Koran.

I realised it was behind the times around the part which prophesied the fall of Constantinople.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm
by Keronians
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.


That really wasn't necessary.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm
by Smoya
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions. :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm
by Solaray
Smoya wrote:Evolution...uh oh. This isn't going to end well.

But anyways, I believe in evolution with the elements of creationism.

So, theistic evolution?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm
by Smoya
Solaray wrote:
Smoya wrote:Evolution...uh oh. This isn't going to end well.

But anyways, I believe in evolution with the elements of creationism.

So, theistic evolution?

Basically.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm
by Lydenburg
Smoya wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions. :roll:


Don't take it personally, BTW. He does that to everyone on these threads.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm
by Chishimotata
Wolfmanne wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

I just said we are Apes.

Sorry, I was just corrected by someone else who presumably knows more than me. My understanding of it makes me think of silverback apes as apes and humans as humans (of the genus Homo).

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm
by Blasveck
Smoya wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Which elements?

Some Christian elements.


Please specify.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm
by Vazdania
Sociobiology wrote:
Vazdania wrote:The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 pm
by Wolfmanne
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

This is just plain disrespectful.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Tlaceceyaya
Smoya wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions. :roll:

There is nothing intrinsic to the state of being an opinion which grants an idea respect. An opinion is an interpretation of data. If it's wrong, why the fuck should anyone respect it?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Mbone
Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:And we have more than enough evidence that we can put all the pieces of evidence together as proof.

viewtopic.php?p=11560697#p11560697
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474

The Miller Ulrey experiment was an experiment designed to simulate the conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested for the occurrence of chemical origins of life. It created amino acids....it didn't however, produce life.

Until you produce life with such an experiment, I've no choice but to assume that abiogenesis didn't occur.

Purden of proof is on you to prove to me that life can be created through those means.

The burden of proof is also on those who are religious to provide evidence for there beliefs, especially god.
There is no/little "evidence", so I can assume god doesn't exist and religion isn't true.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Sociobiology
Chishimotata wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

actually we did, we also share a common ancestor with modern apes, all of those common ancestors would be apes as well.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Regnum Dominae
Smoya wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions. :roll:

Respect is earned. I will acknowledge your right to hold an opinion, but I will not respect said opinion.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:56 pm
by Sociobiology
Vazdania wrote:
Sociobiology wrote: yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

so?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:57 pm
by Chishimotata
Vazdania wrote:
Sociobiology wrote: yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

:palm: Do you think that scientists would say "yep, we did it, we're done, let's all go home!" when they did the Miller Ulray experiment?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:57 pm
by Regnum Dominae
Vazdania wrote:
Sociobiology wrote: yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.


Vazdania wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:It's not copy pasta when you wrote it yourself.

The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

Holy shit, are these goalposts of yours powered by an alcubierre drive?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:57 pm
by Chishimotata
Sociobiology wrote:
Chishimotata wrote:We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

actually we did, we also share a common ancestor with modern apes, all of those common ancestors would be apes as well.

Again, my mistake. Someone else corrected me on this point.