Explain Why You Don't Accept Biological Evolution as a Fact

[The Rich Port]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

[Tlaceceyaya]

I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

[Sociobiology]

It's not copy pasta when you wrote it yourself.

The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

[Wolfmanne]

I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

I just said we are Apes.

[Pandeeria]

Ok guys, we should really stop thread jacking. If someone wants to make another thread about if God is real or not I'll contribute but keep it off this thread.

[Chishimotata]

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

I know we're primates. I should have phrased it better though, but it's true that we share a common ancestor.

[Wolfmanne]

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

No, we did not evolve from apes. Not for the reason you said, however.
We are apes. We are primates. We are not bonobos, however, nor are we monkeys.

Hey, I made a mistake, I know we are Apes.

[Lydenburg]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

Quite. So I read the Koran.

I realised it was behind the times around the part which prophesied the fall of Constantinople.

[Keronians]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

That really wasn't necessary.

[Smoya]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions.

[Solaray]

Evolution...uh oh. This isn't going to end well.

But anyways, I believe in evolution with the elements of creationism.

So, theistic evolution?

[Smoya]

Evolution...uh oh. This isn't going to end well.

But anyways, I believe in evolution with the elements of creationism.

So, theistic evolution?

Basically.

[Lydenburg]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions.

Don't take it personally, BTW. He does that to everyone on these threads.

[Chishimotata]

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

I just said we are Apes.

Sorry, I was just corrected by someone else who presumably knows more than me. My understanding of it makes me think of silverback apes as apes and humans as humans (of the genus Homo).

[Blasveck]

Which elements?

Some Christian elements.

Please specify.

[Vazdania]

The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

[Wolfmanne]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

This is just plain disrespectful.

[Tlaceceyaya]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions.

There is nothing intrinsic to the state of being an opinion which grants an idea respect. An opinion is an interpretation of data. If it's wrong, why the fuck should anyone respect it?

[Mbone]

And we have more than enough evidence that we can put all the pieces of evidence together as proof.

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The Miller Ulrey experiment was an experiment designed to simulate the conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested for the occurrence of chemical origins of life. It created amino acids....it didn't however, produce life.

Until you produce life with such an experiment, I've no choice but to assume that abiogenesis didn't occur.

Purden of proof is on you to prove to me that life can be created through those means.

The burden of proof is also on those who are religious to provide evidence for there beliefs, especially god.
There is no/little "evidence", so I can assume god doesn't exist and religion isn't true.

[Sociobiology]

I'm sorry, but anthropology proves otherwise that we did indeed evolve from Apes.

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

actually we did, we also share a common ancestor with modern apes, all of those common ancestors would be apes as well.

[Regnum Dominae]

Ah, shit sorry everyone.

Kinda got my wires crossed there.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic -> does not follow -> God is moronic, sorry.

Anyway, yeah, Creationism is moronic, Intelligent Design is moronic, people should read a book that isn't The Bible and religious propaganda.

I just love it when people never respect anyone else's opinions.

Respect is earned. I will acknowledge your right to hold an opinion, but I will not respect said opinion.

[Sociobiology]

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

so?

[Chishimotata]

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

Do you think that scientists would say "yep, we did it, we're done, let's all go home!" when they did the Miller Ulray experiment?

[Regnum Dominae]

yes

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/323/5918/1229.abstract

http://www.gizmag.com/first-synthetic-organism-created/15165/

in fact self replicating molecules have been produced from even simpler materials. It turns out Urey and Miller were trying to hard, it works better if you leave the stuff alone.

None of these were produced via the Miller Ulray experiment.

It's not copy pasta when you wrote it yourself.

The point stands. When did Miller Ulray or any other scientist for that matter, produce life from amino acids?

/ threadjack.

Holy shit, are these goalposts of yours powered by an alcubierre drive?

[Chishimotata]

We didn't evolve from apes. We share a common ancestor with modern day primates. There's a difference.

actually we did, we also share a common ancestor with modern apes, all of those common ancestors would be apes as well.

Again, my mistake. Someone else corrected me on this point.