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Explain Why You Don't Accept Biological Evolution as a Fact

Postby Athylon Prime » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:50 pm

The subject is really self-explanatory. I am legitimately curious as to why some people don't believe evolution has happened and is still happening. It astounds me that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, there are people who write off evolution as just merely pseudoscience. I understand if you don't want to post in this thread, not wanting to get flamed or baited, but if you're willing to out yourself, please explain to me the reasoning behind your belief.

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Postby Bolden » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:51 pm

I can sense the argument about to start.
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Postby Industrien » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:52 pm

Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:52 pm

Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.


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Because as a chemist, I have only managed to prove this theory incorrect.
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But I do accept it as fact. So I wear my sunglasses at night.
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Postby Athylon Prime » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:53 pm

Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.

Good on you, sir. I just spit water all over my desk.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:53 pm

I'd like the evolution deniers here to make a coherent, logical rebuttal to this:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474

and every study in

Divair wrote:Fuck it, evidence time.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Once you do that we might actually take you seriously.
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Postby Divair » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:54 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I'd like the evolution deniers here to make a coherent, logical rebuttal to this:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474

and every study in

Divair wrote:Fuck it, evidence time.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Once you do that we might actually take you seriously.

I've been beaten to posting my own list.


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Postby Brissia » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:56 pm

Kind of ironic how your flag is Pope Vader, while you criticize people that believe in creationism.

I, as a person who believes in evolution, and understands it's affects, fully agree with you.
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Postby Britanania » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:56 pm

Well, I do see it as a fact?

See, contrary to some opinions, Catholic do in fact believe in Evolution. There's this thing called as theistic evolution.
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Postby Pagan Hungary » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:56 pm

I'm just glad my beliefs don't cause arguments about this stuff.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:56 pm

Athylon Prime wrote:The subject is really self-explanatory. I am legitimately curious as to why some people don't believe evolution has happened and is still happening. It astounds me that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, there are people who write off evolution as just merely pseudoscience. I understand if you don't want to post in this thread, not wanting to get flamed or baited, but if you're willing to out yourself, please explain to me the reasoning behind your belief.

There's no proof for it, only evidence.
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Vazdania wrote:
Athylon Prime wrote:The subject is really self-explanatory. I am legitimately curious as to why some people don't believe evolution has happened and is still happening. It astounds me that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, there are people who write off evolution as just merely pseudoscience. I understand if you don't want to post in this thread, not wanting to get flamed or baited, but if you're willing to out yourself, please explain to me the reasoning behind your belief.

There's no proof for it, only evidence.

Don't those two words mean the same thing?
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Postby Athylon Prime » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:57 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:I'd like the evolution deniers here to make a coherent, logical rebuttal to this:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474

and every study in

Divair wrote:Fuck it, evidence time.

http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
http://www.txtwriter.com/backgrounders/ ... tents.html
http://bioweb.cs.earlham.edu/9-12/evolu ... /live.html
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... 0/lines_01
http://www.nature.com/nature/newspdf/evolutiongems.pdf
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... _tiktaalik
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... /devitt_01
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_23
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrar ... history_16
http://www.allaboutcreation.org/evidenc ... lution.htm
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/cours ... dence.html
http://www.imls.uzh.ch/research/noll/pu ... 73_785.pdf
http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/ ... 0703003253
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/07/scien ... .html?_r=1
http://jhered.oxfordjournals.org/content/91/3/221
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 1006000526
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/310/5746/287
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WAHpC0Ah0
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/lessons/molb.ws.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v4 ... 331a0.html
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 050603.php
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 071801.php
http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20060327/evo.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... =pmcentrez
http://scienceray.com/biology/zoology/a ... maritimus/
http://facstaff.gpc.edu/~pgore/geology/ ... vation.pdf
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc ... l#atavisms


Once you do that we might actually take you seriously.

It would be a sight to see.

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Postby The Second Vector » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:57 pm

The dictatorship POD wrote:Because as a chemist, I have only managed to prove this theory incorrect.


I don't follow at all. Legitimate curiosity here, could you go into a little bit of detail on this?

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:58 pm

The Orson Empire wrote:
Vazdania wrote:There's no proof for it, only evidence.

Don't those two words mean the same thing?

Nope.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:58 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Athylon Prime wrote:The subject is really self-explanatory. I am legitimately curious as to why some people don't believe evolution has happened and is still happening. It astounds me that, even in the face of overwhelming evidence, there are people who write off evolution as just merely pseudoscience. I understand if you don't want to post in this thread, not wanting to get flamed or baited, but if you're willing to out yourself, please explain to me the reasoning behind your belief.

There's no proof for it, only evidence.

And we have more than enough evidence that we can put all the pieces of evidence together as proof.

viewtopic.php?p=11560697#p11560697
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474
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The Second Vector wrote:
The dictatorship POD wrote:Because as a chemist, I have only managed to prove this theory incorrect.


I don't follow at all. Legitimate curiosity here, could you go into a little bit of detail on this?


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The dictatorship POD wrote:
The Second Vector wrote:
I don't follow at all. Legitimate curiosity here, could you go into a little bit of detail on this?


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Postby Athylon Prime » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:00 pm

Vazdania wrote:There's no proof for it, only evidence.

But, to prove something, you must provide evidence. You've yielded that there is evidence, so I have nothing else to do here.

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Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.

:bow: You are my new hero.
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Postby Divair » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:00 pm

The Second Vector wrote:
The dictatorship POD wrote:Because as a chemist, I have only managed to prove this theory incorrect.


I don't follow at all. Legitimate curiosity here, could you go into a little bit of detail on this?

'Tis a joke, lad.

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:01 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Vazdania wrote:There's no proof for it, only evidence.

And we have more than enough evidence that we can put all the pieces of evidence together as proof.

viewtopic.php?p=11560697#p11560697
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=254663&p=15799474#p15799474

The Miller Ulrey experiment was an experiment designed to simulate the conditions thought at the time to be present on the early Earth, and tested for the occurrence of chemical origins of life. It created amino acids....it didn't however, produce life.

Until you produce life with such an experiment, I've no choice but to assume that abiogenesis didn't occur.

Purden of proof is on you to prove to me that life can be created through those means.
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Postby Bodobol » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:02 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:
Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.


:rofl:


Hot Skitty on Wailord Action wrote:
Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.

:bow: You are my new hero.


Athylon Prime wrote:
Industrien wrote:Because screw science, my 3000 year old book is always right.

Good on you, sir. I just spit water all over my desk.


Out of curiosity; you did understand I was being sarcastic, right?

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