Why is America trading with a communistic country?

[Kylarnatia]

It's actually the "People's Republic of China" if I'm not mistaken.

I'm asking how China is communist.

I want you to explain actual communist ideology, and show how China follows that.

Well, considering one of their parties is Communist Party of China anyone can figure out that communism has support in china.

Pure Communism - the Communism born from the ideals of Marx and Engels - believed that in the final stage of the process of human history, the State would be dissolved and people would live together in Communes, supporting each other by putting everything they produce into the community and everyone gets equal shares in return for what they put in. This is true Communism.

The fact that China still exists as a state proves it's not Communist, in any form. Just because it names itself 'Communist' doesn't make it so.

[Saint Kitten]

Well, considering one of their parties is Communist Party of China anyone can figure out that communism has support in china.

The USA has a Communist Party, that doesn't mean that we're Communist as well.

Yes but (not saying Wikipedia is the god of the Internet or anything) it's the first party that shows up when you see the page on chinas government meaning that it has some importance

[Euroslavia]

The USA has a Communist Party, that doesn't mean that we're Communist as well.

Yeah difference is you don't have to be a member of that party to hold high elected office. In china only communist party members are allowed to run for government offices.

You missed the point and the assumption by St Kitten, that because the party exists, it has support and is therefore communist.

[Pagan Hungary]

Actually yes, yes they were

"Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order"

Please tell me the Soviet Union was this.

They took my family's pig, does that count?

[The Serbian Empire]

Well, considering one of their parties is Communist Party of China anyone can figure out that communism has support in china.

The USA has a Communist Party, that doesn't mean that we're Communist as well.

It's about the whose running the government. It sure isn't Socialist, Liberal, or some form of Conservatism.

The Soviet Union weren't commies either.

Actually yes, yes they were

Communist in party name, but the actions weren't more than state capitalism.

[Llamalandia]

how do people still think china's communist





do people actually think this through or do they just look at the flag





surely as you were typing this, thinking about the USA trading with China and taking its corporations to China to make products to then be sold in the global free market, some little man in your head went 'hang on a sec'

Do have any idea how hard it is to start a business inching, or to own private land or property, these things are hallmarks of communism (doesn't absolutely define it but they often go together)

[Divair]

The Soviet Union weren't commies either.

Actually yes, yes they were

Read the first bloody sentence.

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order

Was the USSR classless, moneyless, and stateless?

[Vetalia]

The Soviet Union was state capitalist. Quit lying.
China is somewhere between state capitalist and state socialist.

It is not "communism in practice", unless you want to tell me what exactly is "communism in practice"

Woah no, not by a long shot. China is somewhere between capitalist and state capitalist...

[Newzie]

I'm gonna go found a party called the GLOBAL SUPER KITTEN PARTY and then go round massacring children but no we're not evil cos we're the GLOBAL SUPER KITTEN PARTY

[Euroslavia]

The USA has a Communist Party, that doesn't mean that we're Communist as well.

Yes but (not saying Wikipedia is the god of the Internet or anything) it's the first party that shows up when you see the page on chinas government meaning that it has some importance

...so Wikipedia is how countries decide if a country is Communist or not... because the party is listed first.


Well this is a new type of logic I haven't seen before...

[New Panti]

Because communism in practice does not equally pure communism in theory.

Practical communism is the standard here not a perfrect adherence to the ideas of marx or are you going to tell me the soviet union weren't commies either.

The Soviet Union was state capitalist. Quit lying.
China is somewhere between state capitalist and state socialist.

It is not "communism in practice", unless you want to tell me what exactly is "communism in practice"

The Soviet Union was most certainly NOT state capitalist. It was a Marxist-Communist-Stalinist dictatorship which started being more friendly about a decade and a half before it collapsed.

[Ainin]

"Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order"

Please tell me the Soviet Union was this.

They took my family's pig, does that count?

Nah, that's just called the government being an asshole.

[Vazdania]

China along with several other countries are Communistic. The major (if only) country we trade often with is China.
My question is, why are we trading with them? After WWII we, along with the other allied nations, try to stop communism and help form more Capitalistic countries. Do you agree that we should technically be trading with them, or do you support it, or is it unrealiliatic to stop? Questions, comments, concerns and prayers all welcome here

My vote is "no but in certain cases yes"

China isn't communist.

[Saint Kitten]

Well, considering one of their parties is Communist Party of China anyone can figure out that communism has support in china.

Names mean nothing.

Well then lets just go ahead and rename all the parties in America "the communistic party of _______" and, while we are at it, rename America " the united Communistic country of America" because, obviously names mean nothing

[Newzie]

to own private land or property, these things are hallmarks of communism

what the literal fuck

[New 4chania]

Their are no communist nations,China is actually state capitalist.If China was communist they wouldn't have all those big corporations.

[Aeken]

I thought China was State Capitalist.

[Blasveck]

The Soviet Union was state capitalist. Quit lying.
China is somewhere between state capitalist and state socialist.

It is not "communism in practice", unless you want to tell me what exactly is "communism in practice"

The Soviet Union was most certainly NOT state capitalist. It was a Marxist-Communist-Stalinist dictatorship which started being more friendly about a decade and a half before it collapsed.

It most certainly was NOT communist, at least.

[Divair]

Names mean nothing.

Well then lets just go ahead and rename all the parties in America "the communistic party of _______" and, while we are at it, rename America " the united Communistic country of America" because, obviously names mean nothing

They don't. North Korea is called a democratic republic. Is it a democratic republic in reality?

[Llamalandia]

Actually yes, yes they were

Read the first bloody sentence.

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a revolutionary socialist movement to create a classless, moneyless[1][2] and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production, as well as a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of this social order

Was the USSR classless, moneyless, and stateless?

Fine then they were a freaking Communist State happy now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_state

and yes the term is better than marxist leninist because guess what that's what 99% of people call the soviet union i.e. communist.

[Irish Realm]

China is Half Communist and Half Capitalist

[Ainin]

I thought China was State Capitalist.

It is.

[Higgins and Browne]

China along with several other countries are Communistic. The major (if only) country we trade often with is China.
My question is, why are we trading with them? After WWII we, along with the other allied nations, try to stop communism and help form more Capitalistic countries. Do you agree that we should technically be trading with them, or do you support it, or is it unrealiliatic to stop? Questions, comments, concerns and prayers all welcome here

My vote is "no but in certain cases yes"

American companies trade with whoever they want, subject to the law. That's the free market and you're a communist for wanting to interfere in it. #RonPaul2016

[Luveria]

Well then lets just go ahead and rename all the parties in America "the communistic party of _______" and, while we are at it, rename America " the united Communistic country of America" because, obviously names mean nothing

They don't. North Korea is called a democratic republic. Is it a democratic republic in reality?

*serious face*

Yes. Read the name.

[Resora]

The Soviet Union was state capitalist. Quit lying.
China is somewhere between state capitalist and state socialist.

It is not "communism in practice", unless you want to tell me what exactly is "communism in practice"

The Soviet Union was most certainly NOT state capitalist. It was a Marxist-Communist-Stalinist dictatorship which started being more friendly about a decade and a half before it collapsed.

It was neither Marxist nor Communist, and everything about how its economy was structured screams state capitalism. They just replaced the bourgeoisie with bureaucrats.