The Mac Donald's Strike

[Blasveck]

Wait, so you really do believe FDR was a communist?

No, but he did take us off the gold standard and put us on the "people" standard.

.....No he didn't?

Nixon ended the Gold Standard.

And may I remind you that the two longest depression in American History happened while we were on the Gold Standard?

[Avenio]

ENTRY-LEVEL JOB.

By definition these fast food jobs aren't 'entry level'. 'Entry level' refers to jobs that are tailored for recent graduates into a certain discipline - the internships at a law firm or lab assistant positions of the world.

Fast food jobs are the opposite of that, since they pay the absolute minimum legally required of an employer and offer little to no routes for advancement. And, of course, that's the problem - people get stuck in these jobs because they can't make enough money to improve their economic conditions. Minimum wage is several orders of magnitude lower than the cost of living, so they are either relegated to poverty or to working obscene hours in order to try and make ends meet.

The idea with this is that by paying said workers a wage approximately equal to the cost of living, they'll have more money and energy to spend on improving their lot in life, which in turn helps social mobility, one of the primary drivers of prosperity in the Western world.

[Magna Libero]

The employers should have a riGhT tO sTrikE against their greedy employees...

[LOSt TEJANOS]

No, but he did take us off the gold standard and put us on the "people" standard.

.....No he didn't?

Nixon ended the Gold Standard.

And may I remind you that the two longest depression in American History happened while we were on the Gold Standard?

What do you call the gold surrender order? American pretended to be on the gold standard until 1974, under Nixon. Not the "pretended".

[Grenartia]

ENTRY-LEVEL JOB.

By definition these fast food jobs aren't 'entry level'. 'Entry level' refers to jobs that are tailored for recent graduates into a certain discipline - the internships at a law firm or lab assistant positions of the world.

Fast food jobs are the opposite of that, since they pay the absolute minimum legally required of an employer and offer little to no routes for advancement. And, of course, that's the problem - people get stuck in these jobs because they can't make enough money to improve their economic conditions. Minimum wage is several orders of magnitude lower than the cost of living, so they are either relegated to poverty or to working obscene hours in order to try and make ends meet.

The idea with this is that by paying said workers a wage approximately equal to the cost of living, they'll have more money and energy to spend on improving their lot in life, which in turn helps social mobility, one of the primary drivers of prosperity in the Western world.

This. Basically, opposing a living wage is opposing economic growth.

[Salandriagado]

Wait, so you really do believe FDR was a communist?

No, but he did take us off the gold standard and put us on the "people" standard.

The gold standard is a fucking stupid and utterly non-functional system.

If you raise minimum wage all wage goes up and the money loses its value. You'll still have to get the second job because money is less value. It's called inflation.

No.

How dare these people demand a livable wage in return for the work they just did! That's so selfish of them! Think of your bosses for a second! They have it hard too!

ENTRY-LEVEL JOB.

"Entry-level" =/= "unable to be lived on". Or at least, it shouldn't.

[Greed and Death]

They should move to Canada.
Minimum wage here is $10.00.
I would know.
I worked there all summer making 80 dollars a day.

The cost of living in Canada is higher.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/co ... llas%2C+TX

Comparing Dallas and Toronto, local purchasing power in Dallas is 41% higher. So the American minimum wage in Dallas is worth about 10.25 an hour in Toronto.

The UK minimum wage is 6.31 pounds which comes to 9.86 dollars.
Comparing Dallas to Manchester, Dallas is 30.98% cheaper and UK minimum wage, which would be the same as earning $6.88 in Dallas Texas.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/co ... ed+Kingdom

And that is to a large degree the disconnect in US minimum wage discussions. Places in the South and Midwest the current federal minimum wage is similar to the minimum wage in Europe and Canada. In New York City and LA it is not so much.

[Greed and Death]

The employers should have a riGhT tO sTrikE against their greedy employees...

Yes it is called a lockout technically.

[Atheistia and Fedoria]

those brave warriors against the patriarchy need atheism!!!

[Gauthier]

Can someone explain the logic behind the claim that raising minimum wages to 10 or 15 dollars for fast food employees will somehow devalue the dollar or bankrupt a billion dollar industry?

[Agritum]

The employers should have a riGhT tO sTrikE against their greedy employees...

Because wanting to be paid a deign wage is greedyness.

[Enadail]

.....No he didn't?

Nixon ended the Gold Standard.

And may I remind you that the two longest depression in American History happened while we were on the Gold Standard?

What do you call the gold surrender order? American pretended to be on the gold standard until 1974, under Nixon. Not the "pretended".

The gold standard is as arbitrary as the the "people" standard. Its no more solid then any other form of valuation; its entirely what people decide gold is worth, on a day to day basis. At least the "people" standard can actually be related to something that has an aggregate value based on perception.

How is the gold standard any more stable then the flint standard from thousands of years ago? Both are random materials found in the earth, neither is rare, and people simple decide what its worth.

I never understood the obsession over the gold standard...

[Enadail]

Can someone explain the logic behind the claim that raising minimum wages to 10 or 15 dollars for fast food employees will somehow devalue the dollar or bankrupt a billion dollar industry?

Because if other people are able to survive, then the work I do earning a lot more isn't as meaningful, because if I can't compare myself to others by income, how can I convince myself that I did something better then someone else?

Or something like that I assume...

[Atheistia and Fedoria]

GREED = GOD

[Wind in the Willows]

We could shut down McDonalds and encourage citizens to eat healthier.

You but that would upset a lot of people

It would be for their own good though.

[Agritum]

You but that would upset a lot of people

It would be for their own good though.

More for Burger King's good, I think.

[Wind in the Willows]

The employers should have a riGhT tO sTrikE against their greedy employees...

Demanding a wage that they can actually live on is greediness? I don't think so.

[European Socialist Republic]

The employers should have a riGhT tO sTrikE against their greedy employees...

Demanding a wage that they can actually live on is greediness? I don't think so.

Those greedy fastfood workers want to have the luxury of eating 3 times/day EVERY day of the week? Damn, that's so greedy!

[Gauthier]

Demanding a wage that they can actually live on is greediness? I don't think so.

Those greedy fastfood workers want to have the luxury of eating 3 times/day EVERY day of the week? Damn, that's so greedy!

Damn Parasites and Looters are gettin' uppity!

[Enadail]

Demanding a wage that they can actually live on is greediness? I don't think so.

Those greedy fastfood workers want to have the luxury of eating 3 times/day EVERY day of the week? Damn, that's so greedy!

Damn them for wanting to be able to afford to both eat AND have a roof over their head. Maybe even be warm in the winter sometimes? Too much... too much...

[Len Hyet]

I assume someone already posted the hilarious McDonalds budget?

[Gauthier]

I assume someone already posted the hilarious McDonalds budget?

You can do well on McDonald's wages! You just need to take another job on top of that and spend the bare bones on necessities!

[Enadail]

I assume someone already posted the hilarious McDonalds budget?

It certainly was a very loose definition of a budget. Usually a budget is planning how to spend the money you have/expect. Its usually not telling you to get more money to make itself work...

[Len Hyet]

I assume someone already posted the hilarious McDonalds budget?

You can do well on McDonald's wages! You just need to take another job on top of that and spend the bare bones on necessities!

Yeah that one!

[Bolguria]

Some Fat people will be furious over this!