Is the psycho-social system of NSG forming its own mind?

[Benuty]

Gods help us all if it does.

It will be really odd when it starts becoming human and develops an interest in....sexuality.

Seduction function time!.

[Oppressed Slaver Union]

Unfortunately for you i'm part of this game too. With my evil nation as part of it's database it might become a bit creepy.

[Skrewalkers]

I'm starting to think this is a chance for an English graduate to show off all the pretty words he learned at university.

It's good shit though, not knocking it at all.

My formal versing in English is limited to core requirements for an undergraduate degree in the US, which is commensurate with the ability to convey the idea "We are low on toner for the printer and should order more by Friday."

Its probably clear that my background in the neurosciences is lesser yet.

But surely somebody here must have more?

[Shamhnan Insir]

I imagine it would become impossibly lost in the minefield maze of all the thoughts expressed, honestly and satirically, over its existence so far...

[Skrewalkers]

A mind must have some sort of input stream of diverse information, some sort of outer stream of into diverse information, and some sort of way to act in ways that respond to the input information in constructive ways. Since NSG takes in only news and ideas as its input stream, processes it without outputting anything significant, and doesn't respond the input information in constructive ways, it is not a mind.
It is, however, part of the internet, which is, quite literally, a mind of its own.

This sounds like a reasonable criteria.

How much original output would be necessary for NSG to be a "mind of its own" rather than merely a subset of the internet?

What would constitute significant output, and what would be the parameters for including it as "output of NSG" and not merely something said by a particular poster independent of NSG as a "source" of output?

[Skrewalkers]

I imagine it would become impossibly lost in the minefield maze of all the thoughts expressed, honestly and satirically, over its existence so far...

Would such loss constitute a catatonia, a schism...or perhaps a meditative state that might develop something else?

[Skrewalkers]

Where the hell do you get your drug's?
They're working on you, and I want some.

Well I should know where I get my drugs, me. But let's not post it all over the internet. Besides, I don't like drugs and I shouldn't have some.

We are perturbed by this revelation, us. Fortunately, a drugless state would be consistent with our present micro-economic condition, I.

[NSG (Ancient)]

Me thinks that the humans are catching onto me.

[DesAnges]

Me thinks that the humans are catching onto me.

How did it take until the third page for this to happen?

[Esternial]

OP, that must have been some fucking good acid.

I am absent the sophistication of psychotropic palate (or palette, if one prefers synesthesia) to intelligently compare the quality of different acids.

More study is needed.

I would deem this a most worthy subject for further empirical research, good chap. Might I add that I find your audacious choice of vocabulary most verbose and quite inundating to the average beholder who is used to a considerable more sober.

Perhaps your very public exposition of your rich jargon is tantamount to an attempt to establish yourself as a figure of great intellect, covered in deceit?

[DesAnges]

I am absent the sophistication of psychotropic palate (or palette, if one prefers synesthesia) to intelligently compare the quality of different acids.

More study is needed.

I would deem this a most worthy subject for further empirical research, good chap. Might I add that I find your audacious choice of vocabulary most verbose and quite inundating to the average beholder who is used to a considerable more sober.

Perhaps your very public exposition of your rich jargon is tantamount to an attempt to establish yourself as a figure of great intellect, covered in deceit?

Boobs.

[Esternial]

I would deem this a most worthy subject for further empirical research, good chap. Might I add that I find your audacious choice of vocabulary most verbose and quite inundating to the average beholder who is used to a considerable more sober.

Perhaps your very public exposition of your rich jargon is tantamount to an attempt to establish yourself as a figure of great intellect, covered in deceit?

Boobs.

A fitting repartee, indeed.

[Skrewalkers]

I would deem this a most worthy subject for further empirical research, good chap. Might I add that I find your audacious choice of vocabulary most verbose and quite inundating to the average beholder who is used to a considerable more sober.

Perhaps your very public exposition of your rich jargon is tantamount to an attempt to establish yourself as a figure of great intellect, covered in deceit?

A reasonable conjecture, but in this case, the style of writing is merely habitual and because I like it. I compose in similar method even those things which will never be read.

No, I must in fact admit quite the contrary, to having sub-normative intelligence (going by intelligence as the ability to recognize information in one's environment and employ it to make decisions that optimize one's chance of success).

Seriously, by any rigorous definition of intelligence, I am dumber than a bag of wet hair. Sorry.

Perhaps my interest in some sort of aggregate mental exercise is in fact a desire to compensate for my own mental mediocrity. To be part of something bigger because I am so small, as it were.

Well now I'm depressed.

That said, what do you think about the premise of the thread itself? Could it be (or could it be done?)

[Skrewalkers]

Boobs.

I wonder how close to the threshold of "not quite impossibly absurd" it would be that if NSG did indeed manifest an identifiable self-awareness, if it really did just say "Provide me with pictures of nice titties, and I will solve complex computation problems for you in return. Trans friendly."

[DesAnges]

Boobs.

I wonder how close to the threshold of "not quite impossibly absurd" it would be that if NSG did indeed manifest an identifiable self-awareness, if it really did just say "Provide me with pictures of nice titties, and I will solve complex computation problems for you in return. Trans friendly."

This abode in which we converse is the Internet, dear fellow - it is a certainty.

[Esternial]

I would deem this a most worthy subject for further empirical research, good chap. Might I add that I find your audacious choice of vocabulary most verbose and quite inundating to the average beholder who is used to a considerable more sober.

Perhaps your very public exposition of your rich jargon is tantamount to an attempt to establish yourself as a figure of great intellect, covered in deceit?

A reasonable conjecture, but in this case, the style of writing is merely habitual and because I like it. I compose in similar method even those things which will never be read.

No, I must in fact admit quite the contrary, to having sub-normative intelligence (going by intelligence as the ability to recognize information in one's environment and employ it to make decisions that optimize one's chance of success).

Seriously, by any rigorous definition of intelligence, I am dumber than a bag of wet hair. Sorry.

Perhaps my interest in some sort of aggregate mental exercise is in fact a desire to compensate for my own mental mediocrity. To be part of something bigger because I am so small, as it were.

Well now I'm depressed.

That said, what do you think about the premise of the thread itself? Could it be (or could it be done?)

I believe the common consensus isn't in your favour, and I find myself inclined to agree with it.

In addition to this, I might add that I feel no alacrity to partake in this conception of yours.

[Skrewalkers]

I believe the common consensus isn't in your favour, and I find myself inclined to agree with it.

In addition to this, I might add that I feel no alacrity to partake in this conception of yours.

...but, the conception in question is the topic of the thread. If you dont want to "partake", then why...?

Nevermind. I am not entitled to your reasons.

As to the common consensus, for those who would like to discuss the topic beyond mere agreement or disagreement?

[Esternial]

I believe the common consensus isn't in your favour, and I find myself inclined to agree with it.

In addition to this, I might add that I feel no alacrity to partake in this conception of yours.

...but, the conception in question is the topic of the thread. If you dont want to "partake", then why...?

Nevermind. I am not entitled to your reasons.

As to the common consensus, for those who would like to discuss the topic beyond mere agreement or disagreement?

I do not wish to be a part of this system you have concocted within the twisted depths of your mind!

[Shamhnan Insir]

I imagine it would become impossibly lost in the minefield maze of all the thoughts expressed, honestly and satirically, over its existence so far...

Would such loss constitute a catatonia, a schism...or perhaps a meditative state that might develop something else?

Once lost in any minefield the only development is to be blown into fragments and scattered messily around the smoking crater that marks your demise. The sentience would be no more.

[Skrewalkers]

...but, the conception in question is the topic of the thread. If you dont want to "partake", then why...?

Nevermind. I am not entitled to your reasons.

As to the common consensus, for those who would like to discuss the topic beyond mere agreement or disagreement?

I do not wish to be a part of this system you have concocted within the twisted depths of your mind!

I've proposed the idea of such a system, but there is no real claim thus far that it exists (or even necessarily could).

However, if it did, and if any given post you make, whether reply or OP, effects to some non-zero extent the deliberations of those around you, wouldn't that action carry the potential for inclusion in the output of the system, whether you do so deliberately or not?

I'm sorry if you take the idea as twisted. Is there something intrinsically objectionable about it to you?

I have to leave the library now, so if I don't respond, its not meant as slight.

[Skrewalkers]

Would such loss constitute a catatonia, a schism...or perhaps a meditative state that might develop something else?

Once lost in any minefield the only development is to be blown into fragments and scattered messily around the smoking crater that marks your demise. The sentience would be no more.

Hmm...is it that the sheer breadth of varying (and sometime diametrically incompatible) statements might result in too vast a range of inputs to sort through and process them into a conceptually sound output?

Can honest (or at least overtly stated) data not be reconciled with the more nuanced and abstract information of satire?

How might this explosive toxicity of labyrinthal ingredients be addressed without such fatal detonation?

Could such a system be debugged if the character of debate were different? Or perhaps a filtering algorithm allowing for the sifting of those elements that would destroy the system?

Or maybe those very energetic mind-bombs are the disruptive effect necessary to overcome stagnancy, orthodoxy, debate-loops, etc?

Perhaps there is a solution. Ideas?

[Esternial]

I do not wish to be a part of this system you have concocted within the twisted depths of your mind!

I've proposed the idea of such a system, but there is no real claim thus far that it exists (or even necessarily could).

However, if it did, and if any given post you make, whether reply or OP, effects to some non-zero extent the deliberations of those around you, wouldn't that action carry the potential for inclusion in the output of the system, whether you do so deliberately or not?

I'm sorry if you take the idea as twisted. Is there something intrinsically objectionable about it to you?

I have to leave the library now, so if I don't respond, its not meant as slight.

BEGONE EVIL WORDSMITH AND YOUR HONEYED WORDS!

[Shamhnan Insir]

Once lost in any minefield the only development is to be blown into fragments and scattered messily around the smoking crater that marks your demise. The sentience would be no more.

Hmm...is it that the sheer breadth of varying (and sometime diametrically incompatible) statements might result in too vast a range of inputs to sort through and process them into a conceptually sound output?

Can honest (or at least overtly stated) data not be reconciled with the more nuanced and abstract information of satire?

How might this explosive toxicity of labyrinthal ingredients be addressed without such fatal detonation?

Could such a system be debugged if the character of debate were different? Or perhaps a filtering algorithm allowing for the sifting of those elements that would destroy the system?

Or maybe those very energetic mind-bombs are the disruptive effect necessary to overcome stagnancy, orthodoxy, debate-loops, etc?

Perhaps there is a solution. Ideas?

The nature of collective human minds is not something that can be sorted or sifted with any form of algorithm, as a result the minefield a sentience would find itself in would have no predictable placement. Take any thead and soon you'll see how random and off topic it goes, this becomes the maze in which the mines await. No sentience would survive
To be honest I can't think of much else more horrific than a maze filled with mines...

[Libertarian California]

Max Barry runs Skynet.

[Bombadil]

It has already occurred and [violet] quickly learned that the only move is not to play.