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Postby Saruhan » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:44 pm

Bottle wrote:Never have I felt so aged and out of the loop...when I was in high school, in my profoundly white Jewish suburb, we called this style of movement "booty dancing." When several students engaged in said booty dancing at our Spring Fling, the shocked chaperons escorted them out and commanded the DJ to switch to a nice safe line-dancing playlist.

Oj vey.

But.. what is this "line dancing" you're talking about? I've always heard americans talk about it but i've never seen it
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:45 pm

Bottle wrote:Never have I felt so aged and out of the loop...when I was in high school, in my profoundly white Jewish suburb, we called this style of movement "booty dancing." When several students engaged in said booty dancing at our Spring Fling, the shocked chaperons escorted them out and commanded the DJ to switch to a nice safe line-dancing playlist.


Don't feel bad. I had no idea what twerking was until, I think it was TnL who told me, I was informed what it was.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:45 pm

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Bottle wrote:Never have I felt so aged and out of the loop...when I was in high school, in my profoundly white Jewish suburb, we called this style of movement "booty dancing." When several students engaged in said booty dancing at our Spring Fling, the shocked chaperons escorted them out and commanded the DJ to switch to a nice safe line-dancing playlist.


Don't feel bad. I had no idea what twerking was until, I think it was TnL who told me, I was informed what it was.

Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:46 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don't feel bad. I had no idea what twerking was until, I think it was TnL who told me, I was informed what it was.

Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.


Technique, yes. I doubt I could twerk, tbh.
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Postby Saveyou Island » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:47 pm

Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.

If a dance move that has been popularized by society can't be explained without being lewd, we know there's a problem.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:47 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.


Technique, yes. I doubt I could twerk, tbh.

I know I'm bad at it, personally.

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Postby Bottle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:47 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Don't feel bad. I had no idea what twerking was until, I think it was TnL who told me, I was informed what it was.

Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.

Oh, I went to YouTube and was provided with a helpful instructional video. And, to clarify, "booty dancing" was not simply shaking one's rump...that was merely called "dancing." Booty dancing, aka twerking, required more thrusting and finesse.
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Postby Seriong » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:48 pm

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The Truth and Light wrote:I guess you're free to be wrong then. I love twerking at parties (when I'm invited to twerk).

Although I kinda suck at it... lol.


Oh no! You've gotten to the point where you cannot respond to criticism, are are forced to carry a conversation with yourself!
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:49 pm

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Implying I was wrong to begin with ;)

Great. Have fun twerking at parties. I still maintain it's childish.

It is a party. Omfg. I mean yeah it's good to have taste and be responsible or whatever, but come on. You're supposed to let loose.


And? There's other things to do at parties. If twerking was the only thing that defined a party, I'd say that's a pretty lame party.

Also, your argument implies that not twerking means that someone is not "letting loose". So, am I not "loose" because I find twerking to be pretty stupid?
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:49 pm

Seriong wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Although I kinda suck at it... lol.


Oh no! You've gotten to the point where you cannot respond to criticism, are are forced to carry a conversation with yourself!

The reason I don't debate often is because I don't find it fun. Sorry about it. I'd rather discuss things than argue about them.

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Postby Bottle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:49 pm

Saruhan wrote:
Bottle wrote:Never have I felt so aged and out of the loop...when I was in high school, in my profoundly white Jewish suburb, we called this style of movement "booty dancing." When several students engaged in said booty dancing at our Spring Fling, the shocked chaperons escorted them out and commanded the DJ to switch to a nice safe line-dancing playlist.

Oj vey.

But.. what is this "line dancing" you're talking about? I've always heard americans talk about it but i've never seen it

It's when everyone on the dance floor lines up (multiple parallel rows to fill the dance floor) and performs the same steps simultaneously.

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYnVPIw2jI4
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Postby Seriong » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:49 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Implying I was wrong to begin with ;)

Great. Have fun twerking at parties. I still maintain it's childish.

It is a party. Omfg. I mean yeah it's good to have taste and be responsible or whatever, but come on. You're supposed to let loose.


What? You were just a moment ago calling it racist.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:50 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:It is a party. Omfg. I mean yeah it's good to have taste and be responsible or whatever, but come on. You're supposed to let loose.


And? There's other things to do at parties. If twerking was the only thing that defined a party, I'd say that's a pretty lame party.

Also, your argument implies that not twerking means that someone is not "letting loose". So, am I not "loose" because I find twerking to be pretty stupid?

You're "not loose" because you look at other people's behaviors and sneer. That's pretty snobby.

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Postby Siaos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:50 pm

She can go insane all she wants, just don't do it on stage during an awards show that many teenagers are watching please.
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Postby Seriong » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:50 pm

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Seriong wrote:
Oh no! You've gotten to the point where you cannot respond to criticism, are are forced to carry a conversation with yourself!

The reason I don't debate often is because I don't find it fun. Sorry about it. I'd rather discuss things than argue about them.


You mean you cannot defend your points, and prefer everyone to just agree with you? Tell me, how is a debate different from a discussion in your eyes?
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:51 pm

Seriong wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:It is a party. Omfg. I mean yeah it's good to have taste and be responsible or whatever, but come on. You're supposed to let loose.


What? You were just a moment ago calling it racist.

Calling twerking racist? Where?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:52 pm

Siaos wrote:She can go insane all she wants, just don't do it on stage during an awards show that many teenagers are watching please.


Oh FFS! Here we go. Slut shaming and think of the children.

Get over yourself.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:52 pm

Seriong wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:The reason I don't debate often is because I don't find it fun. Sorry about it. I'd rather discuss things than argue about them.


You mean you cannot defend your points, and prefer everyone to just agree with you? Tell me, how is a debate different from a discussion in your eyes?

Ugh ugh.

I appreciate that you're all a bunch of PoliSci majors and you feel the need to criticize your opponent, but really now?

A discussion is more civil, btw.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:53 pm

Bottle wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.

Oh, I went to YouTube and was provided with a helpful instructional video. And, to clarify, "booty dancing" was not simply shaking one's rump...that was merely called "dancing." Booty dancing, aka twerking, required more thrusting and finesse.

Yeppp, sounds like it.

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Postby Bottle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:54 pm

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Yeah. It's not just shaking your booty... it requires some technique. I can't explain without being lewd.

If a dance move that has been popularized by society can't be explained without being lewd, we know there's a problem.

Yes, and that problem is that the person in question is being a prude. :P

Twerking is a sexually suggestive dance style, typically performed by women, which is centered on rhythmic rapid movement of the hips and buttocks to cause various bouncy parts of anatomy to bounce in a manner which causes parental-type personages to clutch their strands of pearls and cast about for fainting couches.
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Postby Minoriteeburg » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:55 pm

Personally I think this whole Miley thing is great.

The memes that have come out for it have been hilarious.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:55 pm

Bottle wrote:
Saveyou Island wrote:If a dance move that has been popularized by society can't be explained without being lewd, we know there's a problem.

Yes, and that problem is that the person in question is being a prude.

Twerking is a sexually suggestive dance style, typically performed by women, which is centered on rhythmic rapid movement of the hips and buttocks to cause various bouncy parts of anatomy to bounce in a manner which causes parental-type personages to clutch their strands of pearls and cast about for fainting couches.

Clap, clap, clap da bootie

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Postby Siaos » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:56 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Siaos wrote:She can go insane all she wants, just don't do it on stage during an awards show that many teenagers are watching please.


Oh FFS! Here we go. Slut shaming and think of the children.

Get over yourself.

Would you support showing this video in school?
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Postby Bottle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:56 pm

Siaos wrote:She can go insane all she wants, just don't do it on stage during an awards show that many teenagers are watching please.

Pst:

Most of those teenagers are already having sex.
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Postby Bottle » Wed Aug 28, 2013 4:56 pm

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Oh FFS! Here we go. Slut shaming and think of the children.

Get over yourself.

Would you support showing this video in school?

Only if you promise to be deeply shocked and offended.
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