The Official Syria (and all things about it) Thread

[Costa Alegria]

RT does not want to demonise Westerners.

That's the whole point of RT's existence is to broadcast propaganda critical of the US and "the West".

[Souriya Al-Assad]

RT does not want to demonise Westerners.

That's the whole point of RT's existence is to broadcast propaganda critical of the US and "the West".

No its not. Their point is to scrutinise our political elites as well as the corporate/conglomerate, academia, deep state, military diasporas running them from behind..

[Danhanjeedh]

RT does not want to demonise Westerners.

That's the whole point of RT's existence is to broadcast propaganda critical of the US and "the West".

Being neutral in the whole media thing, i think you are mixing Press tv up with RT. RT isn't that anti west at all, its just like Al-Jazeera but reversed (Al-Jazeera as being slightly pro west and RT slightly pro "the other side") Both use propaganda to fill their story, just like very single mediachannel does. state owned or not, it doesn't matter anything.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

That's the whole point of RT's existence is to broadcast propaganda critical of the US and "the West".

Being neutral in the whole media thing, i think you are mixing Press tv up with RT. RT isn't that anti west at all, its just like Al-Jazeera but reversed (Al-Jazeera as being slightly pro west and RT slightly pro "the other side") Both use propaganda to fill their story, just like very single mediachannel does. state owned or not, it doesn't matter anything.

Even Press TV is not that terrible. We are being ruled by one simple thing: our Social Darwinian, Ethnocentric attitudes, as well as over the top paranoia towards the rest of the world. The neo imperialists succeeded well in the regard of demonising their targets to galvanise our public support in favour of their agendas. Then these mobsters cower behind the masses to expect our cover,. This is how "the West" works under our current System.

[Genivaria]

Relevant.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

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Another living proof that these false rebels are mostly made of foreigners with Qutbist intentions.

[Shofercia]

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Oh oh, looks like we missed a spot

Also, Chechen Jihadi seems a bit of an oxymoron, since most Jihadis were more brutal to most Chechens than most Russians were.

Chechen Jihadi Logic: "These people helped make my land a wasteland, all over again, liberation FTW!"

[New Chalcedon]

And why should we be surprised that you believe blatant propaganda?

Why should I trust elites that have been hypocritical liars for decades, even supporting the vilest regimes imaginable themselves, including the Gulf Kings? I apologise, however I am throwing my support behind the resistance.

Edit: Explain to me how democratic it is to support mass murderers such as Chiang Kai Shek, Rhee Sygman, Ngo Dinh Diem, Soeharto, Pinochet, Batista, or any other?

There's also the point that - with the glaring exception of the Saudi regime - the Gulf royals aren't so terrible a lot, as dictators go. Certainly, I'd prefer Emir Hamad or Emir Tamim to General Pinochet or Chairman Mao. Even Emir Sabah of Kuwait's not really all that bad.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

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Oh lovely THIS fucking dog-whistle again. Call me when they start chopping off people's hands for picking flowers or whatever.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Why should I trust elites that have been hypocritical liars for decades, even supporting the vilest regimes imaginable themselves, including the Gulf Kings? I apologise, however I am throwing my support behind the resistance.

Edit: Explain to me how democratic it is to support mass murderers such as Chiang Kai Shek, Rhee Sygman, Ngo Dinh Diem, Soeharto, Pinochet, Batista, or any other?

There's also the point that - with the glaring exception of the Saudi regime - the Gulf royals aren't so terrible a lot, as dictators go. Certainly, I'd prefer Emir Hamad or Emir Tamim to General Pinochet or Chairman Mao. Even Emir Sabah of Kuwait's not really all that bad.

Hamad is horrid, a vile beast when it comes to arming death squads for NATO & Co. Saudi Arabia & Qatar both have a history, fullest of brutality you dannot conceive. Then you have corporations such as Blackwater, G4S, Brit-Am or Monsanto. Surely some believe these are spreading democracy right? What a flagrant farce.

[Danhanjeedh]

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Oh lovely THIS fucking dog-whistle again. Call me when they start chopping off people's hands for picking flowers or whatever.

What's your phone number? so i can call you around around a year ago

[New Chalcedon]

There's also the point that - with the glaring exception of the Saudi regime - the Gulf royals aren't so terrible a lot, as dictators go. Certainly, I'd prefer Emir Hamad or Emir Tamim to General Pinochet or Chairman Mao. Even Emir Sabah of Kuwait's not really all that bad.

Hamad is horrid, a vile beast when it comes to arming death squads for NATO & Co. Saudi Arabia & Qatar both have a history, fullest of brutality you dannot conceive. Then you have corporations such as Blackwater, G4S, Brit-Am or Monsanto. Surely some believe these are spreading democracy right? What a flagrant farce.

.....perhaps you'd at least try to make sense?

[Souriya Al-Assad]

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Oh oh, looks like we missed a spot

Also, Chechen Jihadi seems a bit of an oxymoron, since most Jihadis were more brutal to most Chechens than most Russians were.

Chechen Jihadi Logic: "These people helped make my land a wasteland, all over again, liberation FTW!"

The Chechens are said to be the worst ranks within the death squads ravaging Syria. Even Chechnya's current government once made a statement promising to kill returning FSA Chechen Qutbists on the spot.

[New Chalcedon]

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Another living proof that these false rebels are mostly made of foreigners with Qutbist intentions.

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Welcome to being a small nation in a strategic region.

[Quebec and Atlantic Canada]

Another living proof that these false rebels are mostly made of foreigners with Qutbist intentions.

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Silly NC, we all know that only America AmeriKKKa can be imperialist!

[Danhanjeedh]

Just checking our all out favorite news channel, Russia Today.

Russia won't retaliate on an attack on Syria, but still they have something planned: http://rt.com/news/russian-rocket-engine-ban-039/

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Hamad is horrid, a vile beast when it comes to arming death squads for NATO & Co. Saudi Arabia & Qatar both have a history, fullest of brutality you dannot conceive. Then you have corporations such as Blackwater, G4S, Brit-Am or Monsanto. Surely some believe these are spreading democracy right? What a flagrant farce.

.....perhaps you'd at least try to make sense?

Saudi Arabia & Qatar have intelligence services known for the most gruesome torture methods, have severe apartheid policies against those whom do not follow their Qutbist brand of Wahhabism, have massacred almost all former living leftist groups in their countries in the past decades, whilst were amongst the principle ones to help NATO, Israel train SAVAK, set up al Qaeda, recruit Sayyed Qutb as well as Ikhwan, in addition to pouring covert operatives into Pakistan to train the ISI, as well as ship biochemical weapons from other fellow elite allies straight into FSA hands.

The corporations were a separate point.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Another living proof that these false rebels are mostly made of foreigners with Qutbist intentions.

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Welcome to being a small nation in a strategic region.

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

[Finium]

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Welcome to being a small nation in a strategic region.

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

Before anyone asks, here's the source:
http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/31/nato-data-assad-winning-the-war-for-syrians-hearts-and-minds/

[Danhanjeedh]

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Welcome to being a small nation in a strategic region.

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

Not to forget that only 10% supports the rebels

[New Chalcedon]

Just checking our all out favorite news channel, Russia Today.

Russia won't retaliate on an attack on Syria, but still they have something planned: http://rt.com/news/russian-rocket-engine-ban-039/

I almost hope that Russia's stupid enough to pull that shit. While there are ways for Putin to tweak Uncle Sam's beard without consequences, that isn't one of them.

The most likely outcome of a Russian ban on exporting rocket engines to the US is that the US restarts its own, domestic, parts manufacturing for key public-sector projects.

Which will boost American employment, cut the trade deficit and most likely save money on the engines too!

Assuming you're even correct (and I find it interesting that you claim to speak for the entire populace of Syria in rejecting jihadis), they're an entirely different set of foreigners to the "neo-imperialists" you love to kvetch so much about, and Syria's caught between the two.

Welcome to being a small nation in a strategic region.

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

A very specific number, with very little by way of evidence to back it up.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

Not to forget that only 10% supports the rebels

Thank you.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

Not to forget that only 10% supports the rebels

Thank you.

[Danhanjeedh]

Just checking our all out favorite news channel, Russia Today.

Russia won't retaliate on an attack on Syria, but still they have something planned: http://rt.com/news/russian-rocket-engine-ban-039/

I almost hope that Russia's stupid enough to pull that shit. While there are ways for Putin to tweak Uncle Sam's bears without consequences, that isn't one of them.

The most likely outcome of a Russian ban on exporting rocket engines to the US is that the US restarts its own, domestic, parts manufacturing for key public-sector projects.

Which will boost American employment, cut the trade deficit and most likely save money on the engines too!

Over 70% of Syrians support Bashar. Their stance against the foreign invaders is unequivocal.

A very specific number, with very little by way of evidence to back it up.

the link is below his reaction. and yes, the numbers are correct. (but not specific ofcourse, it can change like 5% each)

[The Republic of Lanos]

Never mind that anyone that protested against Assad and never took up arms were labeled terrorists and had the shit bombed out of them no matter where they lived.