The Official Syria (and all things about it) Thread

[Yue-Laou]

Going to be a mess if we intervene now. I doubt the west really wants to, but if assad is using chemical weapons there's not much a choice. As I said before the US should have intervened far earlier after assad started to gun down the arab spring protesters.

[Cerbergo]

Why does America feel the need to interfere in the affairs of other nations when they can't even sort their own country? Just let Syria sort itself out.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Why not? Many times have other countries helped revolutionaries win.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/expert ... /?ref=auto

WASHINGTON—In light of increased pressure on President Obama to order a military strike on Syria, leading historians and military experts on Tuesday simply pointed to the United States’ longstanding and absolutely impeccable record of successful bombing campaigns over the past 60 years. “The record clearly shows that, in every instance since the Second World War in which the U.S. government has launched strategic missile attacks on foreign soil, our military forces easily targeted enemy assailants with total precision, leaving no civilian casualties, collateral damage, or any long-term negative consequences for the affected country or region, American foreign policy, or international relations as a whole,” said Harvard University historian Dr. Michael Carmona, adding that such past U.S. bombing operations have gone particularly well in Middle Eastern countries over the last century. “Just look at the 1954 bombings in Guatemala, the 1965-to-1973 bombings in Laos and Cambodia, the 1982 bombings in Beirut, the 1986 bombings in Libya, the 1987 bombings in Iran, the 1998 bombings in Iraq, the 1998 bombings in Sudan, the 1998 bombings in Afghanistan, routine airstrikes in Pakistan since 2005, the 2007 bombings in Somalia, the 2011 bombings in Somalia, and essentially the entire American military effort in Vietnam from 1960 to 1975. Those were all executed perfectly, and led, in the long run, to the most desirable possible outcome.” All experts on the subject then agreed unanimously that, if you want to create positive and lasting change in a troubled region, change that you will one day look back on with a deep sense of confidence, pride, and assurance that you did the right thing, then bombing campaigns are almost always the way to go

I... did not just read this... did I?!

[Unitary Presidential State of Romania]

I find it great that America is FINALLY going to intervene. The Syrian government killed thousands of innocent men, women and children.

[Farnhamia]

Why does America feel the need to interfere in the affairs of other nations when they can't even sort their own country? Just let Syria sort itself out.

Apparently the Syrian sorting involves killing, war and - if the western nations are correct - the use of chemical weapons.

[Farnhamia]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/expert ... /?ref=auto

I... did not just read this... did I?!

The Onion is a satire site, just so you know.

[Agritum]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/expert ... /?ref=auto

I... did not just read this... did I?!

It's from The Onion, man.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

In Saddam's case, you do realise his biochemical weapons were provided for by European firms with USA approval, shipped off via the Gulfies, right? Not to mention that for some time NATO's imperialist elites have been staunch backers of the Saddam regime. (Do not forget who helped him stage a coup against Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr in the first place)

Furthermore, concerning the FSA, they toned down the claims to 100-200 people, down from the 650 claimed dead several times after the original claim of thousands. In addition, all evidence I have unequivocally points to the FSA being culprit in all biochemical weapons incidents in Syria.

I believe you were going to provide that evidence, were you not?

Yes, its just that my computer fails epically with too many tabs open. It shall take time, however the evidence will be posted one after the next. (Unfreeze, computer... will you?)

[United Kingdom of Poland]

that would blow up in our face even worse then an invasion.
the smart thing is to simply not take sides or at worst hit the chemical site for both sides.

How exactly would that blow up in our face? It would be much safer to have Assad come out on top.

lets see, validates the use of chemical weapons in war
validates the use of chemical weapons on civilians
doubles back on every statement we made in terms of their use by either side in this conflict.
means supporting an enemy of Israel, the only true ally we still have there.
means supporting someone who has had no problem helping terrorists before (the Beirut bombing) and who would probably go right back to supporting them.
seems a tad bit hypocritical on our part right
the best thing to do is either knock out the chem weapons for both sides or just stay the hell out of their an let them settle this by themselves. Prefferably the second one

[Ontorisa]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/expert ... /?ref=auto

I... did not just read this... did I?!

Damnit America, you had one job in France, Vietnam, Korea, Germany, Italy, Japanese Islands, Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia. If not, I'm sure there's more.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

I... did not just read this... did I?!

It's from The Onion, man.

The Onion never fails to make me laugh.

[Farnhamia]

I believe you were going to provide that evidence, were you not?

Yes, its just that my computer fails epically with too many tabs open. It shall take time, however the evidence will be posted one after the next. (Unfreeze, computer... will you?)

[Ontorisa]

Yes, its just that my computer fails epically with too many tabs open. It shall take time, however the evidence will be posted one after the next. (Unfreeze, computer... will you?)

This guy knows his stuff.

[Maurepas]

I... did not just read this... did I?!

The Onion is a satire site, just so you know.

Which was my point actually, his post sounds like it's from the Onion.

[Agritum]

This guy knows his stuff.

*gal.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Yes, its just that my computer fails epically with too many tabs open. It shall take time, however the evidence will be posted one after the next. (Unfreeze, computer... will you?)

Either that, or if the freezing is due to physical heating... some homemade nitrogen should do it.

[Farnhamia]

Either that, or if the freezing is due to physical heating... some homemade nitrogen should do it.

Or that. Superconductivity ... maybe some liquid helium?

[New Chalcedon]

In Saddam's case, you do realise his biochemical weapons were provided for by European firms with USA approval, shipped off via the Gulfies, right? Not to mention that for some time NATO's imperialist elites have been staunch backers of the Saddam regime. (Do not forget who helped him stage a coup against Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr in the first place)

Furthermore, concerning the FSA, they toned down the claims to 100-200 people, down from the 650 claimed dead several times after the original claim of thousands. In addition, all evidence I have unequivocally points to the FSA being culprit in all biochemical weapons incidents in Syria.

I will humor you despite not beliving you.

As to the first: During the Iran-Iraq War, the US not only actively assisted Iraq with developing chemical weapons, they also used their access to the satellite network to co-ordinate the use of them.

France built Iraq' Osriak nuclear reactor.

Italy sold 75,000 artillery shells designed for use with chemical weapons.

Brazil sold Iraq 100 tonnes of mustard gas.

The British Government helped finance a mustard gas factory in Iraq, as well as supplying Hussein with nuclear triggers.

Singapore sold over 4,000 tons of materials for sarin, VX and other nerve gases.

What SHOULD be done against a government that Gassed it;s civilians?

A considered response. If this case, to first determine that that is, in fact, what happened. Second, to blockade the Syrian coastline and impose a no-fly zone to deny Assad's forces air support. Third, to hopefully not lose a single US life in making the conditions ripe for the forces opposing Assad to succeed. And fourth, to keep any antagonizing of Russia, China or other powers interested in Syria to a minimum.

[Shamhnan Insir]

This is Syrias problem. The population is fighting itself, who are we to wade in to the morass when the facts are as clear as mud. A bombing campaign will achieve nothing, not even salvaging anything from the childish posturing and words the US blurted out.

[New Chalcedon]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/expert ... /?ref=auto

I... did not just read this... did I?!

It's the Onion - a satirical "news" source, not intended to be taken seriously.

[Yes Im Biop]

I will humor you despite not beliving you.

As to the first: During the Iran-Iraq War, the US not only actively assisted Iraq with developing chemical weapons, they also used their access to the satellite network to co-ordinate the use of them.

France built Iraq' Osriak nuclear reactor.

Italy sold 75,000 artillery shells designed for use with chemical weapons.

Brazil sold Iraq 100 tonnes of mustard gas.

The British Government helped finance a mustard gas factory in Iraq, as well as supplying Hussein with nuclear triggers.

Singapore sold over 4,000 tons of materials for sarin, VX and other nerve gases.

What SHOULD be done against a government that Gassed it;s civilians?

A considered response. If this case, to first determine that that is, in fact, what happened. Second, to blockade the Syrian coastline and impose a no-fly zone to deny Assad's forces air support. Third, to hopefully not lose a single US life in making the conditions ripe for the forces opposing Assad to succeed. And fourth, to keep any antagonizing of Russia, China or other powers interested in Syria to a minimum.

Still not seeing a source

[Agritum]

Italy sold 75,000 artillery shells designed for use with chemical weapons.

Italiani brava gente, indeed.

[Agritum]

As to the first: During the Iran-Iraq War, the US not only actively assisted Iraq with developing chemical weapons, they also used their access to the satellite network to co-ordinate the use of them.

France built Iraq' Osriak nuclear reactor.

Italy sold 75,000 artillery shells designed for use with chemical weapons.

Brazil sold Iraq 100 tonnes of mustard gas.

The British Government helped finance a mustard gas factory in Iraq, as well as supplying Hussein with nuclear triggers.

Singapore sold over 4,000 tons of materials for sarin, VX and other nerve gases.



A considered response. If this case, to first determine that that is, in fact, what happened. Second, to blockade the Syrian coastline and impose a no-fly zone to deny Assad's forces air support. Third, to hopefully not lose a single US life in making the conditions ripe for the forces opposing Assad to succeed. And fourth, to keep any antagonizing of Russia, China or other powers interested in Syria to a minimum.

Still not seeing a source

Chalcedon actually sourced his statements. Look at the green "used".

[Priory Academy USSR]

France built Iraq' Osriak nuclear reactor.

Was that anything to do with a weapons programme, or was it simply for power generation, though?

[Souriya Al-Assad]

France built Iraq' Osriak nuclear reactor.

Was that anything to do with a weapons programme, or was it simply for power generation, though?

Yes, of course it was. Even Israel participated in these devious ideas. All for their good old ally Saddam to genocide his way across Iran.