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Postby Myrensis » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:04 am

To be honest I did find that just a little convenient.

After the west decides not to hit Assad and does not want to arm the rebels because of the extremists, they just suddenly decide to make a very public show of going, "Yarr! We are the religious extremist rebels and we're going to attack you not-religious extremist rebels!!"

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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:28 am

Myrensis wrote:To be honest I did find that just a little convenient.

After the west decides not to hit Assad and does not want to arm the rebels because of the extremists, they just suddenly decide to make a very public show of going, "Yarr! We are the religious extremist rebels and we're going to attack you not-religious extremist rebels!!"


Indeed. It is a necessary PR stunt for them to do to convince public favour for resumed supplying of these insurgents. I am quite certain once the FSA gets weapons their "infighting" "magically" stops within moments, then here we go all over again. ;)

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Postby Len Hyet » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:42 pm

Myrensis wrote:To be honest I did find that just a little convenient.

After the west decides not to hit Assad and does not want to arm the rebels because of the extremists, they just suddenly decide to make a very public show of going, "Yarr! We are the religious extremist rebels and we're going to attack you not-religious extremist rebels!!"

Not really, the groups have been sniping at eachother and assassinating high ranking members since the beginning.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:44 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
Myrensis wrote:To be honest I did find that just a little convenient.

After the west decides not to hit Assad and does not want to arm the rebels because of the extremists, they just suddenly decide to make a very public show of going, "Yarr! We are the religious extremist rebels and we're going to attack you not-religious extremist rebels!!"

Not really, the groups have been sniping at eachother and assassinating high ranking members since the beginning.


Not on this scale however.

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Postby EnragedMaldivians » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:31 pm

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Geilinor wrote:The FSA and Al-Qaeda are fighting each other. That means that the FSA isn't radical(most of them aren't). http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/12/world/la-fg-syria-fsa-alqaeda-20130912


This means nothing at all. According to the British study most of the FSA is Khawarji minded too. The sole likely reason behind the split is for PR purposes to make the public think the FSA is "not" al-Qaeda.

Past pro-Qaeda statements from the FSA's officers prove my point too, including a most recent development: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=947_1379768390

Where the FSA are declaring through their twisted pseudo-Sharia courts that they will force even more people into their false "jihad".


Khawarjis? Seriously?
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Postby Costa Alegria » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:47 pm

EnragedMaldivians wrote:Khawarjis? Seriously?


Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".
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Postby Vetalia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:23 pm

Frisivisia wrote:And I think it's safe to assume that Jesus is real and communicates through sticking a fork in the toaster, now we both have ridiculous claims with no evidence.


You don't think the US government has been undertaking long-term planning regarding Syria for at least that long?

I think this would have been a golden opportunity for their plans had it gone through...except they failed to account for the worldwide blowback. Hence the initial warmongering drive with thundering condemnations and blustering, followed by retractions and story changes when the reality of the situation hit both domestically and internationally followed by meek acquiescence to Russia's plan that gives Russia all of the benefits and the US none.

This may very well be the United States' government's Suez moment when they realized they're no longer able to do whatever the hell they want around the world. And that will be a very welcome change.
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Postby Zebulor » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:45 pm

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Zebulor wrote:The allies did not fight WWII in order to stop or prevent the holocaust. When Hitler declared war on the US, his policies regarding non-Aryans weren't really on our minds.


...You may point out that we did, indeed, do that, and the end result is six million Jews, and several million more in Poles, Gypsies, etc. were killed off by that regime. Apathy is not a viable option in any way.

And what makes you think that this time our motivations are any more humanitarian? Because politicians told you so?

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Postby Mkuki » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:47 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
EnragedMaldivians wrote:Khawarjis? Seriously?


Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:04 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:


Can I simply not support the US fighting the war of Saudi Arabia, without any mention of the Greater Middle East Project?
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Postby The Red Star Union » Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:18 am

Mkuki wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:


Lol, thats stupid. ;) I prefer the Middle East to have less countries to disagree with eachother and blow themselves up, not more.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:35 am

Mkuki wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:

Its been well described by Netanyaho's former aid in "Operation A Clean Break: Securing the Realm"

Its the Zionist regime entity's plans to Balkanise the entire region into in-fighting sectarian/ethnic regimes with ties to Tel Aviv, however in perpetual state of war with one another. NATO & the Gulf support this too because our defence corporations will make tonnes from selling arms to such conflicts, whilst no one will be able to form a unified front against the pet projects of the Gulf petroltwats.

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Postby Luveria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:41 am

Vetalia wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And I think it's safe to assume that Jesus is real and communicates through sticking a fork in the toaster, now we both have ridiculous claims with no evidence.


You don't think the US government has been undertaking long-term planning regarding Syria for at least that long?

I think this would have been a golden opportunity for their plans had it gone through...except they failed to account for the worldwide blowback. Hence the initial warmongering drive with thundering condemnations and blustering, followed by retractions and story changes when the reality of the situation hit both domestically and internationally followed by meek acquiescence to Russia's plan that gives Russia all of the benefits and the US none.

This may very well be the United States' government's Suez moment when they realized they're no longer able to do whatever the hell they want around the world. And that will be a very welcome change.

The US government seems to have been entirely unprepared for how their warmongering was slowed to a halt. It's certainly a turning point that for the time since ever, the US hasn't been able to do what it wants when even its own allies have refused to join in.

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Postby Rabopari » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:22 pm

Its clear. The US does not want another war in the middle east and anyway why would they, there's no oil in syria!

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Postby Luveria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:30 pm

Rabopari wrote:Its clear. The US does not want another war in the middle east and anyway why would they, there's no oil in syria!

end of story

The US people don't. The US government has an entirely different view. They were oblivious to how US allies refused to join in, because the US government was so accustomed to always getting everything its way without the slightest bit of resistance.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:44 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:

This is a horrible idea.
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This is a horrible idea.

I lost interest when I noticed the part that says "Globalist Agenda"

Next up: How the Bolshevik Jewluminatti Shapeshifting Reptillians Are Taking Over Your America By Controlling the Fed!

And of course near the bottom of the page there's nonsense about the Zionist Agenda. I see I was right jumping to assumptions.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:51 pm

Luveria wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:This is a horrible idea.

I lost interest when I noticed the part that says "Globalist Agenda"

Next up: How the Bolshevik Jewluminatti Shapeshifting Reptillians Are Taking Over Your America By Controlling the Fed!

And of course near the bottom of the page there's nonsense about the Zionist Agenda. I see I was right jumping to assumptions.


I know, it has that peculiar Alex Jones vibe to it.
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Postby Minarchist States » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:02 pm

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Postby Luveria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:09 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Luveria wrote:I lost interest when I noticed the part that says "Globalist Agenda"

Next up: How the Bolshevik Jewluminatti Shapeshifting Reptillians Are Taking Over Your America By Controlling the Fed!

And of course near the bottom of the page there's nonsense about the Zionist Agenda. I see I was right jumping to assumptions.


I know, it has that peculiar Alex Jones vibe to it.

The difference is Alex Jones is right twice a day like a broken clock. That site is worse than Alex Jones.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:52 pm

Rabopari wrote:Its clear. The US does not want another war in the middle east and anyway why would they, there's no oil in syria!

end of story


The US fights for reasons other than getting oil. Not necessarily good reasons, but they exist.

Its foolish to try to reduce complex politics to simple cliches.
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Postby Alien Space Bats » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:02 pm

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:NATO & the Gulf support this too because our defence corporations will make tonnes from selling arms to such conflicts, whilst no one will be able to form a unified front against the pet projects of the Gulf petroltwats.

P-E-T-R-O-T-W-A-T-S. The proper English term is "petrotwats". Ther's no "l".

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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:38 pm

Mkuki wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Same person tried to claim that the Syrian occupation of Lebanon was justified and that things such as the "Greater Middle East Project" exist and we all need to "wake up".

Greater Middle East Project? :palm:


It's a conspiracy theory and you know it. How big of an idiot do you need to be in order to look at the "Greater Middle East Project" and think "yep, that's happening alright".

Come back and talk when your head isn't full of shit please.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:25 am

Costa Alegria wrote:


It's a conspiracy theory and you know it. How big of an idiot do you need to be in order to look at the "Greater Middle East Project" and think "yep, that's happening alright".

Come back and talk when your head isn't full of shit please.


Conspiracy theory? I do not think so. :palm:

A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm was written by Richard Perle for Benyamin Netanyahu. This is the closest amount of evidence you shall get for the Israeli part of the plot to Balkanise the Middle East.

Edit: Let us not forget almost every part of this strategy has been utilised as well as played out in numerous conflicts regionally, besides Syria. This is not your average "theory", the destabilisation agenda is real, as well as fully unequivocal.

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Souriya Al-Assad wrote:NATO & the Gulf support this too because our defence corporations will make tonnes from selling arms to such conflicts, whilst no one will be able to form a unified front against the pet projects of the Gulf petroltwats.

P-E-T-R-O-T-W-A-T-S. The proper English term is "petrotwats". Ther's no "l".

You're a native Francophone, so I figured you needed help on that one. Don't bother thanking me...


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