The Official Syria (and all things about it) Thread

[Costa Alegria]

This is not 1980s Iran any longer. Not only has it taken massive modernisation strides in its domestic defence industry, Russia as well as China have been tweaking them too. So has Pyongyang, whom arguably, as far as the Pokpungho main battle tank amongst some other equipments are concerned, did make strides of their own. With these facts Iran is not a weakling state, nor does it have weak allies either. Furthermore, if the Bavar-313 comes out soon, Iran's chances of withstanding a Zionist counterstrike increase even more.

I wouldn't exactly call Iran's military "modern". It has some modern-ish equipment, but Iran has no means of hitting Israel that the Israelis don't have the countermeasures for. Not to mention any strike against Israel would put Iran's Sunni neighbour to the west on high alert. And Saudi Arabia has the means to strike at Iran if it wants to.

As for your claims about North Korean stuff, no. North Korea hasn't made many strides in it's "technology". That MBT you referenced is nothing more than a standard T-62 dressed up to look like something less shitty.

[Haktiva]

is it true you guys are handing out gas masks again?

We've BEEN handing out (the updated model) gas masks for like 2 years now. The only thing that's changed in the last few days is that more people are actually going to the Post Office to pick theirs up.

I use mine for counter-IDF tactics at Palestinian demonstrations

I got the civ model for basically the same reason.they're good quality, even if mine is a little old by comparison

[Souriya Al-Assad]

This is not 1980s Iran any longer. Not only has it taken massive modernisation strides in its domestic defence industry, Russia as well as China have been tweaking them too. So has Pyongyang, whom arguably, as far as the Pokpungho main battle tank amongst some other equipments are concerned, did make strides of their own. With these facts Iran is not a weakling state, nor does it have weak allies either. Furthermore, if the Bavar-313 comes out soon, Iran's chances of withstanding a Zionist counterstrike increase even more.

I wouldn't exactly call Iran's military "modern". It has some modern-ish equipment, but Iran has no means of hitting Israel that the Israelis don't have the countermeasures for. Not to mention any strike against Israel would put Iran's Sunni neighbour to the west on high alert. And Saudi Arabia has the means to strike at Iran if it wants to.

As for your claims about North Korean stuff, no. North Korea hasn't made many strides in it's "technology". That MBT you referenced is nothing more than a standard T-62 dressed up to look like something less shitty.

Actually, the Pokpungho has characteristics/features deriving from not just the T-62, however furthermore from the T-72B, the T-80, the Type 88, as well as allegedly, the T-90S. It is quite possible.

For instance, look at the tank closely:



Tell me if you recognise certain distinct external features as well.

Iran has local allies ranging from Armenia to Uzbekistan to Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan, to Russia itself penultimately, besides Syria, Algeria, Oman (which is increasingly shifting alignments), the Lebanese resistance, the Iraqi resistance, or Yemeni Houthis & Marxist forces.

[Imperial Nilfgaard]

I wouldn't exactly call Iran's military "modern". It has some modern-ish equipment, but Iran has no means of hitting Israel that the Israelis don't have the countermeasures for. Not to mention any strike against Israel would put Iran's Sunni neighbour to the west on high alert. And Saudi Arabia has the means to strike at Iran if it wants to.

As for your claims about North Korean stuff, no. North Korea hasn't made many strides in it's "technology". That MBT you referenced is nothing more than a standard T-62 dressed up to look like something less shitty.

Actually, the Pokpungho has characteristics/features deriving from not just the T-62, however furthermore from the T-72B, the T-80, the Type 88, as well as allegedly, the T-90S. It is quite possible.

For instance, look at the tank closely:



Tell me if you recognise certain distinct external features as well.

Iran has local allies ranging from Armenia to Uzbekistan to Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan, to Russia itself penultimately, besides Syria, Algeria, Oman (which is increasingly shifting alignments), the Lebanese resistance, the Iraqi resistance, or Yemeni Houthis & Marxist forces.

Ah the Houthies... yes I am sure a disgruntled Yemeni militia a thousand miles away will make the IDF quiver in their boots.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Actually, the Pokpungho has characteristics/features deriving from not just the T-62, however furthermore from the T-72B, the T-80, the Type 88, as well as allegedly, the T-90S. It is quite possible.

For instance, look at the tank closely:



Tell me if you recognise certain distinct external features as well.

Iran has local allies ranging from Armenia to Uzbekistan to Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan, to Russia itself penultimately, besides Syria, Algeria, Oman (which is increasingly shifting alignments), the Lebanese resistance, the Iraqi resistance, or Yemeni Houthis & Marxist forces.

Ah the Houthies... yes I am sure a disgruntled Yemeni militia a thousand miles away will make the IDF quiver in their boots.

Its a 200 000 soldier strong militia, should I add? Furthermore, it is an ideal counter against the Qutbist-Wahhabi Saudi NATO-Israel-South Korea/Taiwan backed regime.

[Grand Britannia]

I hope you aren't talking about the shitty fake "stealth fighter" they "made".

The Qaher-313 exists, however under development. Iran wanted to make it seem as if it were fully completed for several reasonable reasons to me, however behind that the Qaher-313 is still being worked upon, is real, just not ready for serial production yet.

Of course it is, as is the Iranian fleet of aircraft carriers.

[Napkiraly]

Ah the Houthies... yes I am sure a disgruntled Yemeni militia a thousand miles away will make the IDF quiver in their boots.

Its a 200 000 soldier strong militia, should I add? Furthermore, it is an ideal counter against the Qutbist-Wahhabi Saudi NATO-Israel-South Korea/Taiwan backed regime.

It's actually 100 000 and they'd have to trek across (and not all of them, since that'd give the Yemeni government a golden ticket right into their areas of operation) the Arabian peninsula to reach Israel. Don't see that happening, especially since Saudi Arabia would just blow the crap out of them.

[Napkiraly]

The Qaher-313 exists, however under development. Iran wanted to make it seem as if it were fully completed for several reasonable reasons to me, however behind that the Qaher-313 is still being worked upon, is real, just not ready for serial production yet.

Of course it is, as is the Iranian fleet of aircraft carriers.

Tugboats with RC biplanes. *nod*

[Ostroeuropa]

This is not 1980s Iran any longer. Not only has it taken massive modernisation strides in its domestic defence industry, Russia as well as China have been tweaking them too. So has Pyongyang, whom arguably, as far as the Pokpungho main battle tank amongst some other equipments are concerned, did make strides of their own. With these facts Iran is not a weakling state, nor does it have weak allies either. Furthermore, if the Bavar-313 comes out soon, Iran's chances of withstanding a Zionist counterstrike increase even more.

I wouldn't exactly call Iran's military "modern". It has some modern-ish equipment, but Iran has no means of hitting Israel that the Israelis don't have the countermeasures for. Not to mention any strike against Israel would put Iran's Sunni neighbour to the west on high alert. And Saudi Arabia has the means to strike at Iran if it wants to.

As for your claims about North Korean stuff, no. North Korea hasn't made many strides in it's "technology". That MBT you referenced is nothing more than a standard T-62 dressed up to look like something less shitty.

Iran also seems to have gone to the Hussein school of strategy and tactics.
Look how well that turned out.

"Vietnam beat the USA. We'll use the sa- WHY ISN'T IT WORKING?! Never mind. We'll do it again next time."
(Derp jungles.)

[Kanery]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57599944/u.s-preps-for-possible-cruise-missile-attack-on-syrian-govt-forces/

I understand this is just the planning stage, but I think it's rather rash to just be planning to strike government positions.
What concrete evidence is there that the government forces were the one who bombed the site? Is there even any evidence that the strike may have been sanctioned if it was?

I'd rather not be hearing of battle plans until it can be reasonably confirmed which side even launched the strike. Else this just looks like it might end up as another Iraq.

International law is irrelevant. The USA can and should do whatever the hell it wants because it can... it's the most powerful and most God-fearing nation on Earth.

It doesn't matter who's right or wrong in Syria... what matter is this: what does America have to gain by taking one side militarily and what does it have to lose?

If it can make a gain... then GO FOR IT.

Personally, I'd like to see the US set up a new Christian government in Syria...

Sarcasm, right??

[Dakran]

Of course it is, as is the Iranian fleet of aircraft carriers.

Tugboats with RC biplanes. *nod*

Well hey, it still carries aircraft.

[Ostroeuropa]

Tugboats with RC biplanes. *nod*

Well hey, it still carries aircraft.

I have my own aircraft carrier
*nods*
*floats a rubber ducky out of the window with a helium balloon*

IT FLIES!

[Beta Test]

Iran will use the opportunity to start bombing Israel.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Its a 200 000 soldier strong militia, should I add? Furthermore, it is an ideal counter against the Qutbist-Wahhabi Saudi NATO-Israel-South Korea/Taiwan backed regime.

It's actually 100 000 and they'd have to trek across (and not all of them, since that'd give the Yemeni government a golden ticket right into their areas of operation) the Arabian peninsula to reach Israel. Don't see that happening, especially since Saudi Arabia would just blow the crap out of them.

I see you speak in love & confidence towards King Saud. For someone supposedly supporting the FSA as well as the rest of the sugar coated imperialism as "democracy", this is quite ironic .

As for the Houthis, if they combine Vietnamese guerilla strategies with Guevarist military doctrine combined with some Polisario formula, it could very much take on King Saud, given the they receive a steady stream of weapons in addition to logistics to keep them going.

[Costa Alegria]

Actually, the Pokpungho has characteristics/features deriving from not just the T-62, however furthermore from the T-72B, the T-80, the Type 88, as well as allegedly, the T-90S. It is quite possible.

It's a T-62 in fancy clothing. Nothing more. Nothing less.

For instance, look at the tank closely:

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Tell me if you recognise certain distinct external features as well.

You mean the track skirts, add-on steel armour and a gun shroud? Yeah, T-90S equivalent it is not.

[Costa Alegria]

Iran will use the opportunity to start bombing Israel.

With what exactly?

[Vorshka]

Iran will use the opportunity to start bombing Israel.

With what exactly?

Missiles, duh.

Now seriously, Iran will love to jump in the opportunity and support Syria. I can easily see Assad and whoever is in Iran now, going nuts and firing his entire chemical arsenal at Israel.

[Costa Alegria]

Missiles, duh.

You mean those North Korean made SCUDs?

[InuYashastan]

I have two things to say: LET'S ROCK!

[Vorshka]

Missiles, duh.

You mean those North Korean made SCUDs?

Or propably the russian SS-21.

[Costa Alegria]

Or propably the russian SS-21.

You do realise Israel is located more than 70km away from Iran, right? Oh, you means Syria? That's what Israel has an air force and Patriot missiles for.

[Vorshka]

Or propably the russian SS-21.

You do realise Israel is located more than 70km away from Iran, right? Oh, you means Syria? That's what Israel has an air force and Patriot missiles for.

Yes, I was talking about Syria.

Did Assad spokesperson said in BBC that in case of intervention they will attack Israel?

MY BETS ON ISRAEL!

[Mordakia]

You do realise Israel is located more than 70km away from Iran, right? Oh, you means Syria? That's what Israel has an air force and Patriot missiles for.

Yes, I was talking about Syria.

Did Assad spokesperson said in BBC that in case of intervention they will attack Israel?

MY BETS ON ISRAEL!

Sales of Gas Masks have gone up in Israel

[Querria]

Anybody want to know what I really think on the situation? I think none of this discussion is actually worth anything. In the end all it amounts too is more people biting the fucking dust that have families, and children that have to grow up without a family(if the children survive). What needs to be asked is "when will the killing end?"

Maybe we should pull our collective heads out and put them together, right here, and come up with a letter(or letters) so precisely worded that it can convince different leaders involved in this chucklefuck to only want negotiation for peace as an option. That would be worth giving some fucks over in my book. It can be done, everybody who'd have helped would be famous too.

[DogDoo 7]

Yes, I was talking about Syria.

Did Assad spokesperson said in BBC that in case of intervention they will attack Israel?

MY BETS ON ISRAEL!

Sales of Gas Masks have gone up in Israel

They are not sold. They are offered to each citizen and resident free of charge (and have been since the new models came out 2 years ago). You just have to go collect it at the post office or have it delivered to your house. In the last few days, more people have been requesting them.