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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:56 pm

The Scientific States wrote:Looked at the news regarding Syria today, and I almost flipped my table over.

Looks like someone should pay a visit to the local IKEA if he is prone to tantrum initiated furniture displacments. Heard they have some pretty stable tables at that store.
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:58 pm

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Some bad shit happened.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 82120.html

Senate has backed a resolution to use force against Syria, we took a huge step to military action today.

And this is bad?

For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:58 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Some bad shit happened.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 82120.html

Senate has backed a resolution to use force against Syria, we took a huge step to military action today.

And this is bad?


I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:Looked at the news regarding Syria today, and I almost flipped my table over.

Looks like someone should pay a visit to the local IKEA if he is prone to tantrum initiated furniture displacments. Heard they have some pretty stable tables at that store.


But I always get lost in Ikea stores, they're so large :p
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And this is bad?

For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess

I'm as anti-war as the next guy, but I also happen to be anti use of chemical weapons on civilians as well.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

Orcoa wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And this is bad?

For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess


And I'm anti war.
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And this is bad?


I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.

Neville, is that you?
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Postby Dangelia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:59 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And this is bad?


I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.


If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.

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Postby Warda » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Orcoa wrote:For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess

I'm as anti-war as the next guy, but I also happen to be anti use of chemical weapons on civilians as well.

maybe you should give super putin some of that evidence then
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:And this is bad?


I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.

Or Libya or Kosovo more then a Iraq
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Orcoa wrote:For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess

I'm as anti-war as the next guy, but I also happen to be anti use of chemical weapons on civilians as well.


I am to as well.

But we shouldn't jump to war, which is what we're doing. War should be the last option.

This is the modern world you can't just go invading countries because they did some bad things.
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Dangelia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.


If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.


Source?
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Orcoa wrote:For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess

I'm as anti-war as the next guy, but I also happen to be anti use of chemical weapons on civilians as well.


Ah, intervention against the rebels is what you support then.

Just bomb the chemical weapon storage facilities so neither side can use them, then leave - only acceptable form of intervention, and even that is shitty.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Dangelia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.


If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.


I don't support the rebels either. Another reason I don't want to intervene.

But chemical weapons against ordinary people? That is a problem, but it is one we shouldn't solve with military force and more weapons.

Although I wouldn't say the rebels are demonic. They don't kill Christians.
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Postby Dangelia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Orcoa wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.

Or Libya or Kosovo more then a Iraq

They were fighting for a good cause in Kosova. It was Serbs enacting genicides on Albanians.

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Dangelia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't think we should use military force against Syria.

Although the situation is a bit of a moral dilemma, the Assad government did many bad things, so the UN should try to negotiate talks, or we could send a lot of humanitarian aid.

But military force and intervening in another countries problems will end up like the Iraq War.


If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.

Christians are worth more than others?
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Postby Orcoa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:01 pm

Warda wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I'm as anti-war as the next guy, but I also happen to be anti use of chemical weapons on civilians as well.

maybe you should give super putin some of that evidence then

Why would I give that Tyrant anything?

Putin can kindly shut the fuck up for all I care.
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Postby Dangelia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:02 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Dangelia wrote:
If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.


I don't support the rebels either. Another reason I don't want to intervene.

But chemical weapons against ordinary people? That is a problem, but it is one we shouldn't solve with military force and more weapons.


I think the rebels used the chemical weapons and then they pointed the finger to Assad.

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Postby Warda » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:02 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Dangelia wrote:
If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.

Christians are worth more than others?

I think he's talking about the targeted killings part, which I also hear is a no no in UN land.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:02 pm

Dangelia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't support the rebels either. Another reason I don't want to intervene.

But chemical weapons against ordinary people? That is a problem, but it is one we shouldn't solve with military force and more weapons.


I think the rebels used the chemical weapons and then they pointed the finger to Assad.


Doubt it.

It's extremely likely that Assad used chemical weapons against his own people.
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Postby Dangelia » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Dangelia wrote:
If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.

Christians are worth more than others?

They were killing Christians, just because they're Christians. That's pretty evil.

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Postby Orcoa » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Orcoa wrote:For some who are anti-war, yes it is I guess


And I'm anti war.

Not a bad thing, to each person's own.

Me? I guess I'm more anti-useless wars but not agasint War itself.
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

Dangelia wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I don't support the rebels either. Another reason I don't want to intervene.

But chemical weapons against ordinary people? That is a problem, but it is one we shouldn't solve with military force and more weapons.


I think the rebels used the chemical weapons and then they pointed the finger to Assad.


Got any evidence?
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Postby Quebec and Atlantic Canada » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Dangelia wrote:
If Assad is evil, than the rebelion us demonic. They kill, exil, and kidnap Christians.

Christians are worth more than others?

Muslims aren't people silly. Civil wars only matter when people white Americans can sympathize with start dying.

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Postby The Scientific States » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:03 pm

Orcoa wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
And I'm anti war.

Not a bad thing, to each person's own.

Me? I guess I'm more anti-useless wars but not agasint War itself.


I see where you're coming from.
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