The Official Syria (and all things about it) Thread

[Xanixi]

So how long until the UN says what they think happened?

The team leaves Syria tomorrow and I think they'll post their findings Monday or Tuesday.

Great. Right in the middle of my exams.
Damn you, UN. Damn you.

[Risottia]

So how long until the UN says what they think happened?

The team leaves Syria tomorrow and I think they'll post their findings Monday or Tuesday.

The real problem is that they have to report only whether chemical weapons were used or not, and not about who did.

Which is why I support a full-scale invasion of Syria by the UN - neither in favour of Assad, nor in favour of the insurgents. And turning it into a UN protectorate - à la Bosnia, let's say - until the Syrians can get themselves a functioning democracy.

[Imperializt Russia]

UN doesn't and can't invade anywhere.

Invading a state at war would require NATO, which will require combat losses and all the flak that brings.
UN mops up after NATO.

[Agritum]

The team leaves Syria tomorrow and I think they'll post their findings Monday or Tuesday.

The real problem is that they have to report only whether chemical weapons were used or not, and not about who did.

Which is why I support a full-scale invasion of Syria by the UN - neither in favour of Assad, nor in favour of the insurgents. And turning it into a UN protectorate - à la Bosnia, let's say - until the Syrians can get themselves a functioning democracy.

The world would need to be a Japanese Anime and Syrians aliens for it to work.

[Risottia]

Actually, Saddam did USE his chemical arsenal. Which was kindly provided by Singapore, Netherlands, Egypt, India, and West Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

But you know the old joke, right?

Scene: UN lounge; Saddam Hussein, Tareq Aziz, Western diplomats.
HUSSEIN (loud): Oy, Tareq, when we'll be back in Baghdad, remind me to order the killing of ten thousand Kurds... and two Swedes!
AZIZ: Sure, mr.President.
WESTERN DIPLOMAT: Excuse me, mr.President... but why the Swedes?
HUSSEIN (to Aziz): What did I tell you, Tareq? No one gives a fuck about the Kurds!

Halabja was well before the Gulf War.
I was talking about during the Gulf War.

Halabja was well DURING the First Gulf War. That is the Iran-Iraq War. You might be referring to Operation Desert Storm (aka the SECOND Gulf War), or Operation Iraqi Liberation (aka the Third Gulf War).

It's not like it's not a war until the US join the fray, guns blazing.

[Risottia]

The real problem is that they have to report only whether chemical weapons were used or not, and not about who did.

Which is why I support a full-scale invasion of Syria by the UN - neither in favour of Assad, nor in favour of the insurgents. And turning it into a UN protectorate - à la Bosnia, let's say - until the Syrians can get themselves a functioning democracy.

The world would need to be a Japanese Anime and Syrians aliens for it to work.

I'm afraid you have some good points there.

Still that would be the best option.

[Risottia]

UN doesn't and can't invade anywhere.

Korea disagrees.

[Imperializt Russia]

Desert Storm may be the second Gulf War, but it's still the Gulf War, much like how the Second World War is the war, neither Vietnam nor Korea (often known as The Forgotten War) nor WWI.

[Risottia]

Desert Storm may be the second Gulf War, but it's still the Gulf War, much like how the Second World War is the war, neither Vietnam nor WWI.

Eh?

THE Gulf War is the one who lasted the most and killed most people. First Gulf War.

[Haktiva]

Looks like the US government is scrambling for friends since the UK and Germany are ruling out military action

[The Rebel Alliances]

International law is irrelevant. The USA can and should do whatever the hell it wants because it can... it's the most powerful and most God-fearing nation on Earth.

It doesn't matter who's right or wrong in Syria... what matter is this: what does America have to gain by taking one side militarily and what does it have to lose?

If it can make a gain... then GO FOR IT.

Personally, I'd like to see the US set up a new Christian government in Syria...

I honestly hope you are joking..

I hope he is not. Just to make it funnier.

[Sommorragh]

Intervention should be done to save the Syrian people from chemical weapons.
It is unclear which side, however is using them and it is hypocritical for America to get involved seeing as they have used chemical weapons and sold them to other nations, and their ally in the middle east, Israel has also used chemical weapons in 2006.
It is also stupid how America fights the Taliban and Al-Queada in Afghanistan yet the rebels they want to help are supporters and members of these terrorist groups. In fact many of the rebels in Syria are North African, Turks, Pakistani, Afghani, Saudi, etc.

America feels it's a battle between the poor innocent rebels who have been attacked with chemical weapons by a harsh, evil, dictator and a cruel, corrupted regime.

America should feel it needs to help the civilians stuck in the middle of a war between Islamist terrorists fighting as rebels and a Dictator of a corrupt regime, with some chemical weapons being used but we don't know who by.

Both the Syrian rebels and the Syrian government are bad guys in my opinion, but it is better if Assad is left in charge in the long term and we let him sort out the rebels.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CYKxodNc2_c

The Iranians are going to get dragged into this as well.

[Wind in the Willows]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

[The Rebel Alliances]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

It is possible. They have a lot to gain. If foreign forces come down on Assad then their job becomes a lot easier. And it is obvious the world will blame Assad.

[Xanixi]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

Is this based on sources you can pinpoint us to?

[Great Nepal]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

It is a strong possibility, they are only side with the motive.

[Danhanjeedh]

Looks like the US government is scrambling for friends since the UK and Germany are ruling out military action

I wish them good luck, all western nations (wich showed intrest) that are capable of doing such attack all refused to get involved...

[Danhanjeedh]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

I think most of us agree to that, however we desided to wait till the US showed its "solid" prove to the world.

[Imperializt Russia]

Desert Storm may be the second Gulf War, but it's still the Gulf War, much like how the Second World War is the war, neither Vietnam nor WWI.

Eh?

THE Gulf War is the one who lasted the most and killed most people. First Gulf War.

If I type "gulf war" into Google, the first result that comes up is an wikipedia page entitled "Gulf War".
The Google sample of the page reads,

The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), codenamed Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991)

So yes, "The" Gulf War would in fact be the Second Gulf War. The one that people remember. The one that people care about.

This is unfortunately a result of Americentricism, and the media that perpetuates that image of the world, but meh.

[Danhanjeedh]

I just came to realize... The UK claimed it also had solid evidence against Assad, however now they are refusing to take part in a military intervention, i guess the evidence wasn't as solid as they claimed..

Considering that, i doubt the US claimed solid evidence will in fact be as solid as they claim it is.

[Rio Cana]

Above some posters mentioned Desert Storm. Syria took part in Desert Storm. They supplied 14500 troops.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_ ... _personnel

Seems the US leaderships is pushing too hard and mainly spending time speaking about striking back at Syria. In other words, they are overdoing it. It is almost like an obsession. But when it came to the coup in Egypt they rather not talk about it. Just like they rather not talk about the economic problems and unemployment problems in the US. Better to talk about Syria.

[Alien Space Bats]

Lol, God mode range wire tapping for the win!

It wouldn't be the first time.

[Wind in the Willows]

I believe a faction of the rebels carried out the attack and tried to blame it on Assad, anyone else agree?

Is this based on sources you can pinpoint us to?

Can you source evidence that Assad carried out the attack?

[Cannot think of a name]

Looks like the US government is scrambling for friends since the UK and Germany are ruling out military action

The British are out and the French are in. Fries are French Fries again and it's now 'freedom muffins'.

[New Chalcedon]

Looks like the US government is scrambling for friends since the UK and Germany are ruling out military action

The British are out and the French are in. Fries are French Fries again and it's now 'freedom muffins'.