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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:49 pm

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Are you seriously assuming that Floridians can be reasonable or are regularly reasonable?

I'm talking theory, man! You and me both know that in Florida you're gambling with your life at every moment!


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I don't think it's a blanket definition (I assume that's the drink driving limit in the states?).


Perhaps every male should carry something they can ask potential sexual partners to blow.

Just to check their BAC, you know....


:rofl:

I wouldn't be able to stop laughing long enough if a girl busted that out.

I can't ride the motorcycle if I'm above the alcohol limit.

Jesus.

The Union of the West wrote:When "booze and sex are constants in your life," I think its pretty reasonable to assume you're an alcoholic.


I'm not sure you understand what "constants" are. Or am I?

It doesn't mean I'm constantly drinking booze. I'd be dead. It just means booze and sex are regularly in my life.

What does sex have to do with alcoholism?
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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:53 pm

Yes I know what constants means. If alcohol is a constant in your life, then you've got a problem. It could lead to alcoholism. Unless you're going to college to be a regular attendant of AA meetings, you're wasting your time.
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Postby The Scientific States » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:55 pm

The Union of the West wrote:Yes I know what constants means. If alcohol is a constant in your life, then you've got a problem. It could lead to alcoholism. Unless you're going to college to be a regular attendant of AA meetings, you're wasting your time.


No.

Drinking alcohol regularly but being able to stop isn't alcoholism.

Drinking alcohol nonstop and not being able to quit is alcoholism.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 pm

The Union of the West wrote:Yes I know what constants means. If alcohol is a constant in your life, then you've got a problem. It could lead to alcoholism. Unless you're going to college to be a regular attendant of AA meetings, you're wasting your time.


I'll be sure to pass the word to the frat rats, too, though my guess is it don't apply to them.

Now hush.
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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:58 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yes I know what constants means. If alcohol is a constant in your life, then you've got a problem. It could lead to alcoholism. Unless you're going to college to be a regular attendant of AA meetings, you're wasting your time.


No.

Drinking alcohol regularly but being able to stop isn't alcoholism.

Drinking alcohol nonstop and not being able to quit is alcoholism.

Okay maybe you missed the "It could LEAD TO alcoholism" part.
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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:00 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Yes I know what constants means. If alcohol is a constant in your life, then you've got a problem. It could lead to alcoholism. Unless you're going to college to be a regular attendant of AA meetings, you're wasting your time.


I'll be sure to pass the word to the frat rats, too, though my guess is it don't apply to them.

Now hush.

Why would it not apply to them?
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:02 pm

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I'll be sure to pass the word to the frat rats, too, though my guess is it don't apply to them.

Now hush.

Why would it not apply to them?


Variable reasons.

Nepotism, hardwire, and frat culture among them.

Also, the N/A in "amount of fucks given."

Now stop thracking.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:12 pm

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No.

Drinking alcohol regularly but being able to stop isn't alcoholism.

Drinking alcohol nonstop and not being able to quit is alcoholism.

Okay maybe you missed the "It could LEAD TO alcoholism" part.

Eating junk food COULD lead to obesity, do you only eat healthy?

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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:17 pm

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The Union of the West wrote:Okay maybe you missed the "It could LEAD TO alcoholism" part.

Eating junk food COULD lead to obesity, do you only eat healthy?

You can't be arrested for "Driving While Obese." No one ever ate so much junk food that they stripped naked, got a full body tattoo of their grandma, and made out with a goat.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:20 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Eating junk food COULD lead to obesity, do you only eat healthy?

You can't be arrested for "Driving While Obese." No one ever ate so much junk food that they stripped naked, got a full body tattoo of their grandma, and made out with a goat.


No, but people have eaten so much that they took over the arm rest while next to me on a flight and that's really annoying.....

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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:22 pm

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The Union of the West wrote:You can't be arrested for "Driving While Obese." No one ever ate so much junk food that they stripped naked, got a full body tattoo of their grandma, and made out with a goat.


No, but people have eaten so much that they took over the arm rest while next to me on a flight and that's really annoying.....

Yea... No thats not much of a comparison.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:24 pm

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No, but people have eaten so much that they took over the arm rest while next to me on a flight and that's really annoying.....

Yea... No thats not much of a comparison.


People getting tattoos and making out with a goat don't annoy me.....

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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:28 pm

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The Union of the West wrote:Yea... No thats not much of a comparison.


People getting tattoos and making out with a goat don't annoy me.....

Its still really stupid
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:33 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
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People getting tattoos and making out with a goat don't annoy me.....

Its still really stupid


It really isn't. Your initial complaint was that drunk people do things that don't hurt anyone but themselves.

Now if you'd gone with the amount of violence done by drunk people or the amount they tax the health service then you would have had a decent point.....

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:37 pm

If you're both drunk and you're both enthusiastic, then it isn't rape.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:38 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:If you're both drunk and you're both enthusiastic, then it isn't rape.


I'm a little surprised to hear you say that.

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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:41 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:If you're both drunk and you're both enthusiastic, then it isn't rape.


I'm a little surprised to hear you say that.

You must think I'm quite the square.
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Postby Revolutionarily » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:41 pm

If both people consent then it is not rape. If it can be proved in court that it is not consensual for either party then it is rape. Alcohol consumption is irrelevant.

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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:42 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The Union of the West wrote:Its still really stupid


It really isn't. Your initial complaint was that drunk people do things that don't hurt anyone but themselves.

Now if you'd gone with the amount of violence done by drunk people or the amount they tax the health service then you would have had a decent point.....

Okay, you don't hear on the news "Fat driver kills 3." "Fat man kills family" Etc...
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:44 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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I'm a little surprised to hear you say that.

You must think I'm quite the square.


No, I've just seen you in other threads discussing rape and my impression is that you hold the opinion that if the woman is drunk then it's rape.

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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:48 pm

If one is drunk, and the other isn't, then it's rape or at the very least sexual assault.
If both are consensually drunk and they drunkenly but consensually agree to have sex, it's not rape. How can you expect one party (the supposed "victim") to be incapable of understanding consent, but expect the other party to be perfectly capable of understanding that drunk sex isn't consensual sex??? That doesn't make sense.
If one gets the other drunk for the purpose of getting them to have sex with them, it's rape.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:52 pm

Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If one is drunk, and the other isn't, then it's rape or at the very least sexual assault.
If both are consensually drunk and they drunkenly but consensually agree to have sex, it's not rape. How can you expect one party (the supposed "victim") to be incapable of understanding consent, but expect the other party to be perfectly capable of understanding that drunk sex isn't consensual sex??? That doesn't make sense.
If one gets the other drunk for the purpose of getting them to have sex with them, it's rape.


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Postby The Parkus Empire » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:54 pm

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The Parkus Empire wrote:You must think I'm quite the square.


No, I've just seen you in other threads discussing rape and my impression is that you hold the opinion that if the woman is drunk then it's rape.

Yeah, if you're sober and she hasn't made it clear previously that she's okay with it. If you're both drunk and willing then there's no fucking way that's rape, that's ridiculous.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:55 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:If one is drunk, and the other isn't, then it's rape or at the very least sexual assault.
If both are consensually drunk and they drunkenly but consensually agree to have sex, it's not rape. How can you expect one party (the supposed "victim") to be incapable of understanding consent, but expect the other party to be perfectly capable of understanding that drunk sex isn't consensual sex??? That doesn't make sense.
If one gets the other drunk for the purpose of getting them to have sex with them, it's rape.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:57 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
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No, I've just seen you in other threads discussing rape and my impression is that you hold the opinion that if the woman is drunk then it's rape.

Yeah, if you're sober and she hasn't made it clear previously that she's okay with it. If you're both drunk and willing then there's no fucking way that's rape, that's ridiculous.


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