The Truth and Light wrote:Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:It turns non-rape situations (14 x 21, a pedorape? Fucking c'mon, gringoes) into inexcusable crimes agaisnt the dignity of not really suffering persons. Even if their long-term relationship might end because of this, what is more hurting than the sex (yes, consented) itself.
Just as those often stupid anti-zoophilia and anti-incest laws.
A twenty-one-year-old having relations with a fourteen-year-old is not sex. It is rape.
Sex is a physical relationship between consenting equals.
I find it to be idiotic that you want to excuse the abuse of minor citizens.
The Truth and Light wrote:Zottistan wrote:There are exceptions to every rule. There are people above the age of consent who are too emotionally immature to consent to sex, and people below the age of consent who, realistically, are mature and physically developed enough to consent to sex.
They are not legally equals. Their socio-economic status creates a power imbalance. Which is why it makes it a Bad Idea.
Not that I think fourteen year olds are, in fact, old enough to be having sex with adults, but you might want to tighten up that argument. I mean, holding out for "equal" partners with equal SES means that every Cinderella story from
Ye Xian to
Pretty Woman is celebrating repeated rape.
Consent doesn't require that you be physical, intellectual, economic, or whatever equals. You can either be equal, or you can be
good enough. An 18 year old with an IQ of 90 who dropped out of high school and has never earned a cent in their life is still capable of consenting to sex with Bill Gates, Marylin Vos Savant, or the entire moderation team of NationStates.
In the case of deficiency, we typically need
relative as well as
absolute deficiency; equality is sufficient but not strictly necessary. In this, drunkenness and age can be treated as quite similar; any standard that does not set the bar at a level of incapacity high enough to eliminate the possibility of initiating sex (i.e., more or less passed out or close to it)
must refer to the relative level of inebriation between the two individuals.