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What should be done in response to Russia's recent suppression of gay rights and right to assemble?

Move the Olympics to a different country
147
19%
Boycott the Olympics
96
12%
Create the most fabulous Olympics ever
205
27%
Economic and trade sanctions until the crackdown on rights ends
97
13%
Go to war with Russia
39
5%
Nothing - Russia has the right to crack down on gay rights and right to assembly if they so choose
185
24%
 
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EpicSaxe
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Postby EpicSaxe » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:55 am

When I read this, I cracked a smile and laughed for a few reasons. The Amount of flak that the Russian Government will end up getting is hysterical especially in the event that someone is arrested. But that's not why I laughed. Protecting your child from "Homosexual Propaganda" is a farse and is silly. If you're child is Homosexual, then its just a fact..well its mentally proven to be such a fact. Christianity is showing itself to really push an issue that Jesus never said a word about and was cited to be on the words of St. Paul the Apostle (Also the most easily debunked Apostle). Being a former Roman Catholic turned Bi-Sexual and into a Pantheistic state of mind taught me one thing about Christianity and the like.

People can't keep their nose out of it.

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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:57 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Menassa wrote:That's a shame that it doesn't have anything to say on such a hot button topic.

Sounds Archaic.

It's actually quite progressive, because by not teaching about homosexuality, it actually endorses a person's freedom of choice.

How do you feel, being beaten by a religion that existed before the creation of the Universe (according to your book)?

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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:58 am

Blasveck wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:My religion doesn't produce a single teaching on homosexuality as such.


Wait, Knox, aren't you an atheist?

What religion is that?

Menassa wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:It's actually quite progressive, because by not teaching about homosexuality, it actually endorses a person's freedom of choice.

How do you feel, being beaten by a religion that existed before the creation of the Universe (according to your book)?

Or maybe it is teaching you not to be a homosexual as it feels it's so obvious it doesn't need to state it.

No religion existed before the creation of the universe according to my book, as there were no humans....

Nah, we Sumerians never discriminated based on sexuality.

And I meant the creation date according to a fundamentalist chronological interpretation (which is six thousand years ago, after the Sumerian religion developed).
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:05 am

Is the Russian Government just now trying to annoy people? if so it is working.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:05 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Menassa wrote:Or maybe it is teaching you not to be a homosexual as it feels it's so obvious it doesn't need to state it.

No religion existed before the creation of the universe according to my book, as there were no humans....

Nah, we Sumerians never discriminated based on sexuality.

Or did you?


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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:And I meant the creation date according to a fundamentalist chronological interpretation (which is six thousand years ago, after the Sumerian religion developed).

S' a darn shame the world's not 6000 years old... or anywhere close to that.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:08 am

Menassa wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:Nah, we Sumerians never discriminated based on sexuality.

Or did you?


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Menassa wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:And I meant the creation date according to a fundamentalist chronological interpretation (which is six thousand years ago, after the Sumerian religion developed).

S' a darn shame the world's not 6000 years old... or anywhere close to that.

That's exactly what they want you to think.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:13 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Menassa wrote:Or did you?


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DOWN WITH AKKAD

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Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Menassa wrote:S' a darn shame the world's not 6000 years old... or anywhere close to that.

That's exactly what they want you to think.

No, it's only 5773 years old...
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Postby Argentina Leone » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:21 am

This is sure to cause at least a little damage to Russia's relations with countries that have more respect for LGBT rights.

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Postby Cosmicus » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:43 am

Argentina Leone wrote:This is sure to cause at least a little damage to Russia's relations with countries that have more respect for LGBT rights.

More so, if Russia arrests a foreign citizen for whom (as far as I know (does it? (if not then forgive my stupidity (and this abuse of brackets)))) their law does not (and should not) apply... major diplomatic incident.

EDIT: I've just realized that I might be very, very wrong. Sorry.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:44 am

Cosmicus wrote:
Argentina Leone wrote:This is sure to cause at least a little damage to Russia's relations with countries that have more respect for LGBT rights.

More so, if Russia arrests a foreign citizen for whom (as far as I know (does it? (if not then forgive my stupidity (and this abuse of brackets)))) their law does not (and should not) apply... major diplomatic incident.

Of course Russia's laws apply to tourists.
They're in fucking Russia unless on diplomatic grounds.
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Postby Cosmicus » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:51 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Cosmicus wrote:More so, if Russia arrests a foreign citizen for whom (as far as I know (does it? (if not then forgive my stupidity (and this abuse of brackets)))) their law does not (and should not) apply... major diplomatic incident.

Of course Russia's laws apply to tourists.
They're in fucking Russia unless on diplomatic grounds.

Sorry. But still, I doubt that any sufficiently sane government would take very kindly to that happening to one of their own citizens. Doubly so if they're an athlete for the Olympics, quadruply so if they're there on diplomatic grounds (though the Russians wouldn't be that stupid).

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Postby Heleventia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:54 am

Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:58 am

Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.


Another addition to my ignore list.

The people who put this law in place should be shot.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 3:58 am

Cosmicus wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Of course Russia's laws apply to tourists.
They're in fucking Russia unless on diplomatic grounds.

Sorry. But still, I doubt that any sufficiently sane government would take very kindly to that happening to one of their own citizens. Doubly so if they're an athlete for the Olympics, quadruply so if they're there on diplomatic grounds (though the Russians wouldn't be that stupid).

Of course they won't take it well. You can guarantee someone will be arrested by some zealous cop, there'll be bitching to Obama, and shit will be done. Or not. Depends how angry Russia is that day.

Doesn't stop Russia having the right to imprison people under their retarded laws.

I cannot see a situation where a Russian officer will arrest someone on diplomatic grounds, since logically there won't be Russian police there and they have no authority to be there, let alone detain people there.
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Postby Divair » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:00 am

I find this unlikely.

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Postby Cosmicus » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:02 am

Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Seriously? You're gonna descend to this level of stupidity?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:02 am

Divair wrote:I find this unlikely.

Really?
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Postby Divair » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:02 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Divair wrote:I find this unlikely.

Really?

Really.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:02 am

Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Your first mistake was claiming Russia to be a western state.
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:05 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Your first mistake was claiming Russia to be a western state.


Doesn't matter, read the rest of the tripe in it.
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Postby Nevanmaa » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:05 am

I think this is a good time for a good old fashioned Olympic boycott. Russia can play their olympic games with like-minded dictatorial hellholes like North Korea, China and all kinds of Neverheardistans.

Ragnarum wrote:Another addition to my ignore list.

You'd have lot in common with the Russian government, really. They don't tolerate any different views either.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:06 am

Does Mutko have political ambitions or does he just like saying things to get in the headlines? His past antics suggest the latter.
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Postby Heleventia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:07 am

Ragnarum wrote:
Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.


Another addition to my ignore list.

The people who put this law in place should be shot.


Why bother posting if I am added to your ignore list?

Cosmicus wrote:
Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Seriously? You're gonna descend to this level of stupidity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQzcKy3Ke7s


Thankfully, a Westerner agrees with my views. The disadvantages of promoting homosexuality are many - loss in family culture, decrease of population (that will be a disadvantage for Russia which already reports a population decline), ascent of anarchy. And its not stupid to think that homosexuality will lead to collapse of society.

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Heleventia wrote:Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Your first mistake was claiming Russia to be a western state.


I consider all states with majority White population to be Western.
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Postby Ragnarum » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:09 am

Heleventia wrote:
Ragnarum wrote:
Another addition to my ignore list.

The people who put this law in place should be shot.


Why bother posting if I am added to your ignore list?



Because you said something extremely stupid, and I felt like pointing that out.
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Postby Heleventia » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:10 am

Ragnarum wrote:
Heleventia wrote:
Why bother posting if I am added to your ignore list?



Because you said something extremely stupid, and I felt like pointing that out.


What's stupid in what I said? I am free to express mt views, no matter if you find them stupid even if they are not.
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