Russia - Gay Rights - Sochi Olympics Megathread

[Agymnum]

It's a disgusting double-standard. To be fair, there are some who consistently oppose these tactics (I don't, at least not for reasons of principle, I just think we depend too much on tech over boots on the ground), but let's be honest. Obama is getting a lot more leeway on this than had Mccain or Romney won and continued on with the policy.

Attitude counts for a lot. "Speak softly and carry a big stick" and all that.

Good old TR.

Beloved by progressives at home. Beloved by Imperialists abroad.

[Genivaria]

Attitude counts for a lot. "Speak softly and carry a big stick" and all that.

Good old TR.

Beloved by progressives at home. Beloved by Imperialists abroad.

Seriously how the fuck did he do that?

[Agymnum]

Good old TR.

Beloved by progressives at home. Beloved by Imperialists abroad.

Seriously how the fuck do you do that?

You must master the intricate martial art of double-think.

You lovingly feed them strawberries whilst simultaneously shoving a giant wooden bat in their ass.

[Shofercia]

Seriously how the fuck do you do that?

You must master the intricate martial art of double-think.

You lovingly feed them strawberries whilst simultaneously shoving a giant wooden bat in their ass.

Best description of TR's FP ever!

[Mike the Progressive]

And Putin is Joseph Stalin reincarnated.

Dude, you should do a thread about Nixon. It'd be hilarious

Why? Let's see, half the posters wouldn't even bother to read the OP. They'd just say "Nixon was [insert some adjective for shit]", while a quarter would say "Yeah, he did X,Y,Z, but he didn't do it right, so now he fucked over and killed millions. Oh yeah, leave Obama alone. Just leave him alone. His policies may not be ideal, and they'll probably fuck over some people in the future, but he's doing the best he can!" and the rest would say "hey good point" or "go kiss Nixon if you like him so much."

No thanks.

[Genivaria]

You must master the intricate martial art of double-think.

You lovingly feed them strawberries whilst simultaneously shoving a giant wooden bat in their ass.

Best description of TR's FP ever!

AQ that! AQ that!

[Xomic]

We should all boycot this, and put something actually interesting on the tube.

[The Rich Port]

We should all boycot this, and put something actually interesting on the tube.

Way ahead of you.

I boycott all the Olympics because I don't give a rat's ass.

[The Black Forrest]

I'm more and more liking the idea of flooding the Olympics with LGBT people to create the "gayest Olympics ever".

It would be a lot more effective than a boycott in getting the message across.

Have the teams use rainbow uniforms.

[Shofercia]

I'm more and more liking the idea of flooding the Olympics with LGBT people to create the "gayest Olympics ever".

It would be a lot more effective than a boycott in getting the message across.

Have the teams use rainbow uniforms.

This could work. Try it!

[Agymnum]

Have the teams use rainbow uniforms.

This could work. Try it!

I figured we could just dye their hair (or head, if they're bald) a rainbow. Would be cheaper than ordering new uniforms and just as effective.

[Shofercia]

This could work. Try it!

I figured we could just dye their hair (or head, if they're bald) a rainbow. Would be cheaper than ordering new uniforms and just as effective.

Get rainbow snowboards and skis!

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Dem Soviets were too tolerant with those better neutered.

Erm, when I see Stalin, I don't exactly see much tolerance...

No tolerance for the intolerant. Socially dangerous virus called religion. This proves even more Marx was right.

[Agymnum]

Erm, when I see Stalin, I don't exactly see much tolerance...

No tolerance for the intolerant. Socially dangerous virus called religion. This proves even more Marx was right.

Well, to be fair, Stalin killed a LOT of people. Not just religious ones but those who disagreed with any of his opinions.

Modern Russia > Soviet Russia

similar to how

Regular shit > Constipation

[Regnum Dominae]

Erm, when I see Stalin, I don't exactly see much tolerance...

No tolerance for the intolerant. Socially dangerous virus called religion. This proves even more Marx was right.

and that justifies stalin's reign of terror how?

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

No tolerance for the intolerant. Socially dangerous virus called religion. This proves even more Marx was right.

and that justifies stalin's reign of terror how?

I am talking about how the Soviets did too little at repressing religion and religious thinking in Russia.

It could be a place like China, Vietnam, North Korea, Estonia, Czech Republic or Eastern Germany right now. There wouldn't be so much of this homophobic shit.

Imagine if the still standing sorta rival of the United States being neutral-to-open-minded in this question, how helpful it would be to the entire World Island (Eurafrasia) and left-wing movements around the world.

[L Ron Cupboard]

Makes you wonder why they put so much effort into trying to win the Eurovision Song Contest. Maybe they haven't realised...

Hopefully they will make a huge loss on the games.

[Regnum Dominae]

and that justifies stalin's reign of terror how?

I am talking about how the Soviets did too little at repressing religion and religious thinking in Russia.

It could be a place like China, Vietnam, North Korea, Estonia, Czech Republic or Eastern Germany right now. There wouldn't be so much of this homophobic shit.

Imagine if the still standing sorta rival of the United States being neutral-to-open-minded in this question, how helpful it would be to the entire World Island (Eurafrasia) and left-wing movements around the world.

Repressing religion through government force is counterproductive. After the Soviet Union' fell, Russia returned to pre-1917 levels of religiosity. Meanwhile in Europe which didn't suffer from state atheism, religion lacks much influence (especially in the north) and it continues to lose relevance.

[Agymnum]

I am talking about how the Soviets did too little at repressing religion and religious thinking in Russia.

It could be a place like China, Vietnam, North Korea, Estonia, Czech Republic or Eastern Germany right now. There wouldn't be so much of this homophobic shit.

Imagine if the still standing sorta rival of the United States being neutral-to-open-minded in this question, how helpful it would be to the entire World Island (Eurafrasia) and left-wing movements around the world.

Repressing religion through government force is counterproductive. After the Soviet Union' fell, Russia returned to pre-1917 levels of religiosity. Meanwhile in Europe which didn't suffer from state atheism, religion lacks much influence (especially in the north) and it continues to lose relevance.

Exactly. You don't kill religion by stabbing it to death.

You bore it to death with statistics, empirical evidence, and other boring scientific things.

[Rhodesi]

Britain needs it very own Putin

[Agymnum]

Britain needs it very own Putin

Trust me, you don't want him.

He looks cool, but he's like Chuck Norris. Once you get to know him... *shudders*

[Shofercia]

and that justifies stalin's reign of terror how?

I am talking about how the Soviets did too little at repressing religion and religious thinking in Russia.

You think that Stalin did too little to repress religion?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! MY GRANDPARENTS LIVED THROUGH THAT. Stop bullshitting. Thank you

[Shofercia]

Repressing religion through government force is counterproductive. After the Soviet Union' fell, Russia returned to pre-1917 levels of religiosity. Meanwhile in Europe which didn't suffer from state atheism, religion lacks much influence (especially in the north) and it continues to lose relevance.

Exactly. You don't kill religion by stabbing it to death.

You bore it to death with statistics, empirical evidence, and other boring scientific things.

Or you could simply let religion grow and prosper, via education. I don't exactly see how helping the poor, providing free healthcare and opposing the death penalty are bad things, do you?

Your problem isn't religion. It's bigotry and ignorance. Most of those abusing religion to bash teh Gay, also think that Sodom and Gomorrah were married, at least that's the case in the US, according to Webpundit. Ya still think that religion's the problem?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Erm, when I see Stalin, I don't exactly see much tolerance...

No tolerance for the intolerant. Socially dangerous virus called religion. This proves even more Marx was right.

Thousands of people were arrested for being homosexual during the Soviet era.

I would posit that people will find reasons to be evil to each other regardless of religion, or lack thereof.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

Then you guys can please explain me why some places like Estonia, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc. etc. etc. and even Asian countries with no obligation to obey liberal democratic logic with regards to privacy, freedom of expression, etc. etc. aren't so batshit insane?