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What should be done in response to Russia's recent suppression of gay rights and right to assemble?

Move the Olympics to a different country
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Boycott the Olympics
96
12%
Create the most fabulous Olympics ever
205
27%
Economic and trade sanctions until the crackdown on rights ends
97
13%
Go to war with Russia
39
5%
Nothing - Russia has the right to crack down on gay rights and right to assembly if they so choose
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Postby Cin Tracyn » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

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Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.


The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.


You sir are a fountain of incorrect knowledge and idiocy.

The Nazis invaded Russia following a secret pact they made to NOT go to war against each other. In a surprise move, dubbed operation: BARBAROSSA, Nazi Germany mounted a brutal invasion against the "Inferiors" or "Unterhumans" that were the people of the USSR

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Postby The Saint James Islands » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

Cosmicus wrote:
State of the Church wrote:
The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

No, it was a random backstab on the USSR by the Germans, who were both pretty good friends before (non-aggression pact, and so on).

Weirdest friends to ever exist, though.

Oh, Hitler, why you so stupid?
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Postby Cosmicus » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

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How do we know the Illuminati is real? It's blamed after the things happen, when you should be investigating what will happen next. In the slim chance that it's real, of course.

The Illuminati actually existed.

In the 800s.

Then the Bavarian Government disliked their socially progressive and secularist ideas and busted them.

It's quite a sorry tale.

Huh, they sound like really nice guys (I probably said something impossibly wrong).

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Postby Volnotova » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

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Right, you can't say that word.

But, just look at him! Grrr...


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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

Gross Skartphiche wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:The gay community in Russia cares.


And they're Russian too so it's not like they count either.

Fuck those inbred morons. They have neo fucking nazis running riot over there. Nazis. In Russia. The same ideology that murdered 10 - 20 million of them. And they still love Stalin. The think Putin is alright too. Fuck.

Let 'em burn while I laugh.

This kind of blatant disregard for human life sounds like something a Nazi would think.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

State of the Church wrote:
Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.


The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

What?
WHAT?!
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

State of the Church wrote:
Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.


The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

A preemptive invasion of a country you've got a non-aggression pact with is now self-defense. Seems legit.
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Postby State of the Church » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Gross Skartphiche wrote:
Heheheheh.

Anyway, they're Russian. It's not like anyone there cares either.

The gay community in Russia cares.


The gay community of Russia should move to the USA.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:30 am

Volnotova wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:Oh I see... haha. ;) You're deliberately misinterpreting me because you can.


My point still stands.

I think it's entirely disgusting what these Neo-Nazis have done. That said, I'm monitoring the thread because it's a hotbed for flaming and trolling. As long as people play nice, there is no problem with debate.


We have people approving of genocide.

And humiliating and torturing fellow human beings for their sexual orientation.

And you go into this thread telling us "So far it's fairly civil herel"?

Ha-ha? Is this a joke?


listen, as long as they approve of genocide and torture civilly they have just a much a right to debate as you do!
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:31 am

Cosmicus wrote:
State of the Church wrote:
The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

No, it was a random backstab on the USSR by the Germans, who were both pretty good friends before (non-aggression pact, and so on).

Actually, the Nazis were well aware that the USSR was going to invade anyway, so they decided to invade the USSR on the basis that their strategy was entirely offensive.

They couldn't, and indeed didn't, withstand an invasion from the USSR. Their only chance of victory was an invasion, which very nearly succeeded.

Also they weren't "pretty good friends" - beyond the façade, they detested each other with a passion.
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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:31 am

Volnotova wrote:
Cosmicus wrote:But, just look at him! Grrr...


Remember, when it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck - it's not a duck.

warned for ducknaming

e: i feel the need to explicitly state this is a joke because oh you know
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Postby New Libertarian States » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:31 am

Wisconsin9 wrote:
State of the Church wrote:
The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

An preemptive invasion of a country you've got a non-aggression pact with is now self-defense. Seems legit.

But Wisconsin, don't you know us communists are EBUL, and deserved to be invaded?
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by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
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who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
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when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Munrova » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:31 am

State of the Church wrote:
Let me make one thing absolutely clear, genocide, mass murder, and mass rape is never, ever okay. It doesn't matter who the victims are. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator is. It isn't okay, it should never be okay, and I will never consider it okay.


The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

Take a history class. The Soviet Union and Nazi Germany had a non-aggression pact before Operation Barbarossa, a Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union. And Poland wasn't communist, neither was France nor most of what the Nazis invaded.

Not to mention that has nothing to do with what you responded to at all.
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Postby State of the Church » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:32 am

The Illuminati actually existed.

In the 800s.

Then the Bavarian Government disliked their socially progressive and secularist ideas and busted them.

It's quite a sorry tale.


It continued with Giuseppe Mazzini, Albert Pike and the soviet leaders.
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Postby Oneracon » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:32 am

The sad things is if you're a gender or sexual minority person in Russia, chances are you can't afford the plane ticket to even make it to western Europe.

They'd have a pretty damn good asylum claim.
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:32 am

Gross Skartphiche wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:The gay community in Russia cares.


And they're Russian too so it's not like they count either.

Fuck those inbred morons. They have neo fucking nazis running riot over there. Nazis. In Russia. The same ideology that murdered 10 - 20 million of them. And they still love Stalin. The think Putin is alright too. Fuck.

That just shows the power of indoctrination.

Let 'em burn while I laugh.

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Postby DrakoBlaria » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:32 am

Σο he was gonna get fucked by an old dude to buy an iphone? Not sure if that is any better than getting bullied by a bunch of mentally challenged pricks
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:32 am

Cosmicus wrote:No, it was a random backstab on the USSR by the Germans, who were both pretty good friends before (non-aggression pact, and so on).


Hitler wanted to invade east from the very beginning, he said as much in Mein Kampf. He did not intend to go to war with France or the UK but ended up doing so in invading Poland.

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Postby The Saint James Islands » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:33 am

New Libertarian States wrote:
State of the Church wrote:
The nazi invasion was self-defence against communism.

What?
WHAT?!

Idiocy and ignorance all wrapped into one nice little crunchy shell.
He's too far gone...
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Postby Jormengand » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:33 am

Russia still contains some idiots. Homosexuals are still abused for their sexuality. News at fucking eleven.

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Postby Kryozerkia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 am

Volnotova wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:Oh I see... haha. ;) You're deliberately misinterpreting me because you can.


My point still stands.

I think it's entirely disgusting what these Neo-Nazis have done. That said, I'm monitoring the thread because it's a hotbed for flaming and trolling. As long as people play nice, there is no problem with debate.


We have people approving of genocide.

And humiliating and torturing fellow human beings for their sexual orientation.

And you go into this thread telling us "So far it's fairly civil herel"?

Ha-ha? Is this a joke?

The comments are in the grey area. I don't like the views any more than you do. As much as I'd like to do what you're saying, the comments haven't left that dubious area where it's opinion, even if highly unpopular. At this point, the best thing you can do it debate it. It's a hard position to be in.

I'm just watching for when it goes from opinion into clear trolling. Hopefully we don't get there and people will post cautiously knowing the mods are watching.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 am

State of the Church wrote:
The Illuminati actually existed.

In the 800s.

Then the Bavarian Government disliked their socially progressive and secularist ideas and busted them.

It's quite a sorry tale.


It continued with Giuseppe Mazzini, Albert Pike and the soviet leaders.

Lolnope.

Mazzini was just a member of the Carbonari society, which was completely unrelated to the defunct Illuminati and simply had the goal to unify Italy.

Then the Austrians busted them.
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Postby State of the Church » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 am

Take a history class.


The manipulated history of communist-leaded schools?

No, thanks, I'm not part of the flock.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 am

Oneracon wrote:The sad things is if you're a gender or sexual minority person in Russia, chances are you can't afford the plane ticket to even make it to western Europe.

They'd have a pretty damn good asylum claim.

Shame Russia's so bloody huge or they could just hike it.
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Postby Gross Skartphiche » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:34 am

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This kind of blatant disregard for human life sounds like something a Nazi would think.


Does it?

Personally I think it could be something said by a nazi, commie, catholic, muslim, monarchist, anarchist, revolutionary, reactionary, militarist or just someone that doesn't give a fuck about people that aren't me.

Which box do you reckon I should be in?
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