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What should be done in response to Russia's recent suppression of gay rights and right to assemble?

Move the Olympics to a different country
147
19%
Boycott the Olympics
96
12%
Create the most fabulous Olympics ever
205
27%
Economic and trade sanctions until the crackdown on rights ends
97
13%
Go to war with Russia
39
5%
Nothing - Russia has the right to crack down on gay rights and right to assembly if they so choose
185
24%
 
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Postby Herrebrugh » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:06 am

Agritum wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:I support any actions by National Socialist, or Fascist movements.

Like a mindless automaton, then?


Don't blame him. Thinking hurts.
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Postby Fritzergald » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:07 am

Stalins Revenge wrote:
State of the Church wrote:They have my respect (not the teens, the nazis).

1.)How did they earn the respect? 2.)What about them do you respect? 3.)What the hell?

Agreed (with Stalin)
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Shows you how brave the Neo-Nazis of Russia are arnt they, fucking luring and picking on a 15 year old kid as a gang. Fucking disgrace.

Agreed.
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Postby Rhodesi » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:07 am

I would like to remind people that these groups are vigilantes, not backed by the Russian government.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:07 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:I support any actions by National Socialist, or Fascist movements.


Do those actions include assault, rape or, murder?
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Postby Mavrovlachia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:07 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:I support any actions by National Socialist, or Fascist movements.

State of the Church wrote:They have my respect (not the teens, the nazis).

You should both feel ashamed if you support the likes of this.


Well, everyone has opinions some wont like.
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Fritzergald
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Postby Fritzergald » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:08 am

Rhodesi wrote:I would like to remind people that these groups are vigilantes, not backed by the Russian government.

It makes Putin look bad... they won't be around much longer
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Postby State of the Church » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:08 am

Stalins Revenge wrote:
State of the Church wrote:They have my respect (not the teens, the nazis).

1.)How did they earn the respect?


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Postby San Splendido » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

Fritzergald wrote:It makes Putin look bad... they won't be around much longer

I do not think Putin is that concerned about a group which he can always dismiss as "thugs who are in no way supported by the government".
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Far from surprising, Russia seems to be lousy with homophobia these days.

Clearly the neo-Nazi solution is to exterminate gay people so there are no homosexuals to have a phobia of.

Eliminating things does seem to be the default Nazi reaction to things that upset them. Which rather puts a lie to their claims of superiority.


The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:I support any actions by National Socialist, or Fascist movements.

State of the Church wrote:They have my respect (not the teens, the nazis).

You should both feel ashamed if you support the likes of this.

At the very least they should feel bad for picking such a dreadfully unoriginal controversial position as "Nazis, fuck yeah!"
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

State of the Church wrote:
Stalins Revenge wrote:1.)How did they earn the respect?


Resisting to the massonic-satanic project.

Wat.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

State of the Church wrote:
Stalins Revenge wrote:1.)How did they earn the respect?


Resisting to the massonic-satanic project.

The Church is the problem here.
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Postby Fritzergald » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

State of the Church wrote:
Stalins Revenge wrote:1.)How did they earn the respect?


Resisting to the massonic-satanic project.

I question what you just said highly but do continue.
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Postby The Misotheist Reich » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:09 am

Agritum wrote:
The Misotheist Reich wrote:I support any actions by National Socialist, or Fascist movements.

Like a mindless automaton, then?


Not a mindless automaton. I am a passionate Fascist. I am not a national socialist. The actions that this Russian National Socialist movement are not backed up with any legitimate proof. If they where I would support them completly.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

Mavrovlachia wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:
You should both feel ashamed if you support the likes of this.


Well, everyone has opinions some wont like.

Oh i can handle different opinions, even ones i dont like. But if someone supports the likes of that they seriously need to rethink their personality and lives over. What if a neo-nazi group did something like that to one of them or one of their family members? Would they support it then?
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

State of the Church wrote:
Stalins Revenge wrote:1.)How did they earn the respect?


Resisting to the massonic-satanic project.


You're a special kind of crazy, aren't you?
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Ex-Nation

Postby Albul » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

See? That's why I never go on those dating sites, not that I'm gay.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Agritum wrote:Like a mindless automaton, then?


Not a mindless automaton. I am a passionate Fascist. I am not a national socialist. The actions that this Russian National Socialist movement are not backed up with any legitimate proof. If they where I would support them completly.

But they're actions by a National Socialist movement, so you support them, right? You just said that.
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Postby Mavrovlachia » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:10 am

The Misotheist Reich wrote:
Agritum wrote:Like a mindless automaton, then?


Not a mindless automaton. I am a passionate Fascist. I am not a national socialist. The actions that this Russian National Socialist movement are not backed up with any legitimate proof. If they where I would support them completly.

This is....if I see this one more time I will puke.
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Postby State of the Church » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:11 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
State of the Church wrote:
Resisting to the massonic-satanic project.

The Church is the problem here.


The Church doesn't exist anymore since the '60.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:12 am

Gay people in general, aren't bothering any heterosexuals and they shouldn't be targeted for bullying and abuse. If the Russian authorities cared more about civil rights, they could easily do more of an effort to put a stop to this.
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Postby Mkuki » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:13 am

Russian Neo-Nazis. One of the greatest possible paradoxes in history. On par with a Jewish Nazi.
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Postby Fritzergald » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:13 am

State of the Church wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:The Church is the problem here.


The Church doesn't exist anymore since the '60.

So I imagined the thousands of churches I ever saw
:oops: I feel like I should sit in the padded room now
oh wait, maybe you should
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:14 am

State of the Church wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:The Church is the problem here.


The Church doesn't exist anymore since the '60.

*yawn*

Sedevacantism is so last decade...

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Postby San Splendido » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:14 am

Mkuki wrote:Russian Neo-Nazis. One of the greatest possible paradoxes in history. On par with a Jewish Nazi.

Given how the actual Nazis were very adept at performing semantic gymnastics if they wanted to "aryanize" an ethnicity they needed help from, it would not surprise me if they somehow found a way to redefine "Slavic" not to include Russians. Odder things have happened.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:15 am

That is absolutely horrible.

And what's with the sudden flood of neonazis and fascists the past few days?
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