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What should be done in response to Russia's recent suppression of gay rights and right to assemble?

Move the Olympics to a different country
147
19%
Boycott the Olympics
96
12%
Create the most fabulous Olympics ever
205
27%
Economic and trade sanctions until the crackdown on rights ends
97
13%
Go to war with Russia
39
5%
Nothing - Russia has the right to crack down on gay rights and right to assembly if they so choose
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Postby West Faristan2 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:00 pm

ModEdit: After Regnum Dominae brought to my attention just how many threads we'd had on this topic over the last month, I've merged almost all of the recent threads on Russia, gay rights, and the Sochi Olympics into a single megathread. This is not a general megathread for any discussion of Russian politics, but rather for discussion of any intersection of the latter three topics.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... 35803.html

The police were reportedly looking for minors at the meeting, according to Gazeta, but found none. They did, however, discover a 17-year-old in the film footage. The teen had told the crew he was 18 years old at the time of his interview, according to the report. Police were able to keep the Dutch tourists under the "homosexual propaganda" law.

The anti-gay legislation, which was signed into law by Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 30, stigmatizes gay people and bans anyone from giving children information on homosexuality. Earlier this month, it was announced tourists would be subjected to the same fines and sentences as residents if found in violation of the "gay propaganda" law. Foreigners can be jailed up to 14 days.


A law-abiding group, acting in good faith and doing nothing wrong is arrested because Czar Putin thinks gays are icky. Nice.
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Postby Ashmoria » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:03 pm

nooooo its against the law in russia to be pro-gay. its not an arbitrary thing on putin's part. they all agreed to it.

its a good reason to not go to russia while this law is on the books.
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Postby Blasveck » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:04 pm

It's Putin. He's like Stalin except without all the crazy murdering ideas. *nods*
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:06 pm

What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?
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Postby Neoconstantius » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:06 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?

Religious.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Neoconstantius wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?

Religious.

Bloody typical.
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Postby Unicario » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?


Russia became Orthodox Theocracy-on-steroids since 2000.
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?


Nothing really, he's just using teh gheys as a distraction for his failing policies and poor leadership. Plus he can get the Church on his side, and the only people opposed will be the left (who are his usual scapegoats anyways).
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Postby Tyriece » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:07 pm

Blasveck wrote:It's Putin. He's like Stalin except without all the crazy murdering ideas. *nods*


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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:08 pm

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Postby West Faristan2 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:09 pm

Neoconstantius wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?

Religious.


So he is another one of those MA RELIJIN SEZ types.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:09 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?


Nothing really, he's just using teh gheys as a distraction for his failing policies and poor leadership. Plus he can get the Church on his side, and the only people opposed will be the left (who are his usual scapegoats anyways).

It's not that Russian policies are failing as much as they aren't improving as fast as originally promised.
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Postby Oneracon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm

West Faristan2 wrote:
Neoconstantius wrote:Religious.


So he is another one of those MA RELIJIN SEZ types.


No, he's just a good strategist. He could care less about the church, he just wants the voters.
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Postby San Splendido » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Russia: The Last Actually Authoritarian Mainly-Civilised Nation on Earth

I love you, Putin nohomo

It's exactly types like you moves like this are supposed to appeal to: People who do not care if someone is a tyrant, as long as he is sufficiently MANLY.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?


Nothing really, he's just using teh gheys as a distraction for his failing policies and poor leadership. Plus he can get the Church on his side, and the only people opposed will be the left (who are his usual scapegoats anyways).

It's time for Gorbachev to act. *nods*
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:What's Putin's objection to homosexuality?

He wants to maintain a monopoly on the manlove.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:10 pm

Oneracon wrote:
West Faristan2 wrote:
So he is another one of those MA RELIJIN SEZ types.


No, he's just a good strategist. He could care less about the church, he just wants the voters.

Putin no need voters

Putin win when no one vote for either candidate

because Putin Putin

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Postby Oneracon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:12 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
No, he's just a good strategist. He could care less about the church, he just wants the voters.

Putin no need voters

Putin win when no one vote for either candidate

because Putin Putin

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Very true actually, despots don't need votes.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:12 pm

San Splendido wrote:It's exactly types like you moves like this are supposed to appeal to: People who do not care if someone is a tyrant, as long as he is sufficiently MANLY.

Yep. Entirely true. Putin's entire personality and aura makes me support him as a leader.

Not that I care about "MUH LIBERTIEESSS." Freedom is overrated and rights are a construct of the State.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Putin no need voters

Putin win when no one vote for either candidate

because Putin Putin

MOTHER RUSSIA


Very true actually, despots don't need votes.

I fully support his way of doing things (assuming they actually have rigged an election or two, and it isn't just anti-Putin propaganda or speculation). You keep the other world governments happy by appearing all democratic and freedumb-luvin, but are able to keep control of your own fickle public with an iron fist.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
San Splendido wrote:It's exactly types like you moves like this are supposed to appeal to: People who do not care if someone is a tyrant, as long as he is sufficiently MANLY.

Yep. Entirely true. Putin's entire personality and aura makes me support him as a leader.

Not that I care about "MUH LIBERTIEESSS." Freedom is overrated and rights are a construct of the State.

Putin's firm, muscular buttocks turned me gay authoritarian.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Oneracon wrote:
West Faristan2 wrote:
So he is another one of those MA RELIJIN SEZ types.


No, he's just a good strategist. He could care less about the church, he just wants the voters.

If the GOP suddenly becomes favorable to gay marriage that would likely be the same reason as Putin doing what he's doing in Russia. It's all about the votes.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Freedom is overrated

You'd probably retract that statement if someone were to take away your freedoms.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:15 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yep. Entirely true. Putin's entire personality and aura makes me support him as a leader.

Not that I care about "MUH LIBERTIEESSS." Freedom is overrated and rights are a construct of the State.

Putin's firm, muscular buttocks turned me gay authoritarian.

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