Nothing wrong inherently, but:
National and ethnic pride and shame make no sense to me. They're fucking accidents of geography or genetics. Pride and shame ought to be reserved for one's own actions.
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by Iuronia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:45 pm
National and ethnic pride and shame make no sense to me. They're fucking accidents of geography or genetics. Pride and shame ought to be reserved for one's own actions.

by New England and The Maritimes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:46 pm
Katganistan wrote:Minarchist States wrote:
Nah, I was talking about the "French French." Of course if France is also embracing multiculturalism, would it also be wrong to say that France is it's own ethnic group when their are multiple ones in it? Where do you draw the line between race, ethnicity, and nationality? It's screwy in America, I would separate race to be a biological concept, ethnicity to be a cultural one, and nationality to be a national one.
(I am currently living in America, and they are way more chill about race. It's also more confusing.)
I misunderstood you then. French would be a nationality.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Katganistan » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:47 pm

by Katganistan » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:47 pm

by New England and The Maritimes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:48 pm
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by Trefeqia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:50 pm
Libertarian California wrote:Trefeqia wrote:I'm Hispanic, I'm considered mestizo by others, but I think my race might white since I look too light skinned to have half indigenous blood, I also had people believe I wasn't "Mexican", they believed I was "American".
Neither Mexican nor American are races.

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by Belligerent Alcoholics » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:02 pm
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Behave your damn selves, folks.

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by Katganistan » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:55 pm
Qazox wrote:Human is my race!

by Katganistan » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:57 pm

by Belligerent Alcoholics » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:58 pm

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Behave your damn selves, folks.

by Ayreonia » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:01 pm
Seitonjin wrote:I am looking at the poll and realized how wonky it is.

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by New England and The Maritimes » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:13 pm
The Mataniya Islands wrote:I'm 'white' I guess, in more detail I'm 3/4 Irish (Gaelic and Ango-Norman) and 1/4 Scottish.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

by The Mataniya Islands » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:23 pm

by The Mataniya Islands » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:16 pm
New England and The Maritimes wrote:The Mataniya Islands wrote:I'm 'white' I guess, in more detail I'm 3/4 Irish (Gaelic and Ango-Norman) and 1/4 Scottish.
100 years ago people would have called you a "White Nigger" and barred you from most aspects of social life in your community. Another example to illustrate the point that "race" only attains meaning when racial ideology is examined in various contexts.


by Newzie » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:18 pm
by Astograth » Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:19 pm
The Mataniya Islands wrote:
It's 'Keltic' for the race of people (e.g. Irish, Welsh, Breton, Manx, Scottish, Galician etc) and 'Selltic' for the football team in Glasgow (I think the team in Boston continued this tradition).
The explanation according to this website (http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+-+Pronunciation?t=anon) is
--- "Celtic were founded in 1888 to benefit the Irish immigrant population of Glasgow's east end. The name Celtic was chosen to reflect the common roots of the Scots and Irish, who were on the receiving end of considerable sectarian prejudice. Unfortunately the name wasn't used much outside academic circles and was simply mispronounced by the local population. Of course the de facto pronunciation among the faithful is Sellick."
The Celts (ethnolinguistic group) are occasionally referred to as Kelts also it seems = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts
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