South Carolina restaurant kicks blacks out

[Rhodesi]

Secondly, maybe so, although I am hard pressed to work out why this customer would ask management to kick out these people without a good reason.

For some people, skin color is a good reason.

And, I forgot to add, for the management to agree. Surely they realized the bad publicity this would bring if these people were kicked out for racial reasons?

[Lordieth]

For some people, skin color is a good reason.

And, I forgot to add, for the management to agree. Surely they realized the bad publicity this would bring if these people were kicked out for racial reasons?

Surely they should have realised this regardless of the reasons they kicked them out?

[Wisconsin9]

For some people, skin color is a good reason.

And, I forgot to add, for the management to agree. Surely they realized the bad publicity this would bring if these people were kicked out for racial reasons?

Except you've got people who'll agree, too.

[Yehuddah]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

[Greed and Death]

Where does it say this?

The guy who broke the story that his group were kicked out stated they were sitting peacefully for two hours. Nobody in the story has at any point disputed that claim. I think it's safe to assume it's racially motivated, but no, the story doesn't spell it out explicitly. If however you feel that is insufficient, then I will just state that a white customer felt threatened by a group of black patrons, who claim they were waiting patiently for their meal. This in itself should raise concerns as to why they were removed, but perhaps it is a matter of opinion.

No it is absolutely not safe to assume that.

[Wisconsin9]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

I'll consider believing it when the guy says why he felt threatened.

[Srboslavija]

Well if the same customers had no issues before it would indicate that something else happened this time to warrant them being asked to leave.

You're judging the group of 25 based on their race as a sole reason for being kicked out. Others would judge their actions as a reason for being kicked out.

You know the whole thing... "judge a person by their actions, not their race ..."

It was specifically stated they did nothing to warrant being kicked out.

Stated by the person who was kicked out, lol.

"I did nothing wrong" - every wrong dooer ever.

From what we know - a person complained that the group was acting in a threatening manner, the manager (who was there at the time) duly noted it and based on their professional opinion saw it necessary to ask the group to leave.

[Lordieth]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

I think everyone's open to hearing alternative theories. Did they look threatening? Or act threatening? The absence of any reason given is very noticeable in its absence. The management had the opportunity to rebuke the claims and even explain their justifications, but they did not. They had their chance, and they didn't offer any reasons for their removal. This says a lot, I feel. That's my opinion, however.

[Rhodesi]

Hang on a second, why am Itaking a source called the Progressivepopulist seriously, I mean, the people writing this story probably have a racial sensitivity so acute that it makes a polygraph machine seem like a pebble.

[Greed and Death]

Where does it say this?

I repeat my earlier question.
Were the group doing anything other then being black that would warrant being kicked out?

I don't know I have not heard the other side of the story. And the burden would be on the side claiming they were kicked out because of race not on the side claiming there could be something else.

When I worked as a bouncer/bartender I kicked a lot of people out of my bar for being too drunk, starting fights, being too loud, so on. Without exception they all would say I kicked them out for no reason.

[Rhodesi]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

Remember kids, the morale of this story is... don't throw out African-Americans, it's really not worth it.

[Srboslavija]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

I'll consider believing it when the guy says why he felt threatened.

Hopefully this makes national, nay international, news and we get in-depth analysis and interviews.

With this and Oprah recently being denied a $40 000 purse, this new rise of uber-racism might even see Anderson Cooper on the case.

[Fartsniffage]

Hang on a second, why am Itaking a source called the Progressivepopulist seriously, I mean, the people writing this story probably have a racial sensitivity so acute that it makes a polygraph machine seem like a pebble.

http://www.14news.com/Global/story.asp?S=23235524

Here's another article.

[Farnhamia]

Hang on a second, why am Itaking a source called the Progressivepopulist seriously, I mean, the people writing this story probably have a racial sensitivity so acute that it makes a polygraph machine seem like a pebble.

http://www.live5news.com/story/23235524 ... o-facebook

[Luveria]

Hang on a second, why am Itaking a source called the Progressivepopulist seriously, I mean, the people writing this story probably have a racial sensitivity so acute that it makes a polygraph machine seem like a pebble.

http://www.live5news.com/story/23235524 ... o-facebook

From that source:

Brown says an apology was offered and a free meal for the entire group, but he says he's not completely satisfied.

"We weren't coming there for a free meal. When we came there that night, we were coming to patronize the business. This is not a situation where you can just give us a free meal and everything is ok because it's deeper than that."

Seeing that the restaurant tried to buy their way out of it with a free meal, it seems they are aware they were in the wrong.

[Latinorium]

First of all why didn't they make a reservation? Also if they didn't start video taping then the manager probably would not have felt uncomfortable and would not have kicked them out. They didn't refuse them service because the lady got threatened, they were going to put them in a different section. But they got all offended and started video taping and that's what got them asked to leave.

[Farnhamia]

First of all why didn't they make a reservation? Also if they didn't start video taping then the manager probably would not have felt uncomfortable and would not have kicked them out. They didn't refuse them service because the lady got threatened, they were going to put them in a different section. But they got all offended and started video taping and that's what got them asked to leave.

And your source for this is what?

[Srboslavija]

Hang on a second, why am Itaking a source called the Progressivepopulist seriously, I mean, the people writing this story probably have a racial sensitivity so acute that it makes a polygraph machine seem like a pebble.

http://www.live5news.com/story/23235524 ... o-facebook

One of the comments nails it;

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As it stands, this article is simply about Mr. Brown's claim that he and his party experienced racial discrimination by Wild Wings N Chas and he has aired his grievances, real or perceived, on the social media site Facebook. Journalists should ASK provocative questions and REPORT answers. The information provided is incomplete and leaves the reader unable to formulate a truly independent & objective opinion about what actually transpired and led to Mr. Brown's claim. WHY did the party have to wait for two-hours? WHAT was Wild Wing's account of the "situation" with the woman who felt "threatened"? WHY did Wild Wings ask them to leave? WHAT made Mr. Brown certain that the cause was the color of his skin? HOW does Wild Wing handle altercations between customers? Claims of RACISM are SERIOUS and a News Agency should to get to the bottom of it or it's just perpetuating the problem!

...or just read the thread title and be OUTRAGED.

[Latinorium]

Seeing that the restaurant tried to buy their way out of it with a free meal, it seems they are aware they were in the wrong.

No, restaurants always do this even if they know they are right and the customer is wrong.

[Latinorium]

First of all why didn't they make a reservation? Also if they didn't start video taping then the manager probably would not have felt uncomfortable and would not have kicked them out. They didn't refuse them service because the lady got threatened, they were going to put them in a different section. But they got all offended and started video taping and that's what got them asked to leave.

And your source for this is what?

The channel 5 source which was already posted

[Fartsniffage]

First of all why didn't they make a reservation? Also if they didn't start video taping then the manager probably would not have felt uncomfortable and would not have kicked them out. They didn't refuse them service because the lady got threatened, they were going to put them in a different section. But they got all offended and started video taping and that's what got them asked to leave.

And your source for this is what?

Umm, the article you posted.....

[Luveria]

Seeing that the restaurant tried to buy their way out of it with a free meal, it seems they are aware they were in the wrong.

No, restaurants always do this even if they know they are right and the customer is wrong.

It makes them look bad when they are offering compensation, if the restaurant didn't do anything wrong when removing a disruptive customer.

[Condunum]

Ummmm.....
Haven't you thought that maybe they were kicked out not because they are Africans? Maybe people were actually threatened by them?

So the restauraunt kicked out 25 people who were reported as regular customers because one person said they were threatening and somehow this is justified because somehow these regular customers who just arrived were making sorry little bubba's pants get brown.

No fuck that.

[Greed and Death]

http://www.live5news.com/story/23235524 ... o-facebook

From that source:

Brown says an apology was offered and a free meal for the entire group, but he says he's not completely satisfied.

"We weren't coming there for a free meal. When we came there that night, we were coming to patronize the business. This is not a situation where you can just give us a free meal and everything is ok because it's deeper than that."

Seeing that the restaurant tried to buy their way out of it with a free meal, it seems they are aware they were in the wrong.

No, not really. Restaurants give free meals to customers will bogus complaints all the time it is just easier for them than dealing with the matter.

[Farnhamia]

And your source for this is what?

Umm, the article you posted.....

Does it?

NORTH CHARLESTON (WCSC) -
Michael Brown says he was celebrating his cousin's last day in Charleston last month at Wild Wing Cafe in North Charleston. He says after his party of 25 waited two hours for a table, the shift manager told them there was a "situation."

"She said there's a situation where one of our customers feels threatened by your party, so she asked us not to seat you in our section, which totally alarmed all of us because we're sitting there peaceably for two hours," explains Brown. "Obviously, if we were causing any conflict, we would have been ejected out of the place hours before."

Brown says while he was talking to the shift manager, someone in his group began videotaping the conversation. Brown says that's when the manager became upset and refused to seat them.

"I asked her I want to be clear with you," says Brown. "I said so you're telling me I have to leave. She said I have a right to deny you service. I said so you're asking me to leave because you're upset because he was recording you, after we've waited for two hours, and after you've already pretty much discriminated on us, and she answered yes."

Brown says several calls were made to the corporate office in Mt. Pleasant, but he says they did not receive a call back, so he took to Facebook with this post Thursday.

I will never go to Wild wings cafe in N. Chs again! We (Party of 25 family and friends) waited 2hrs, patiently and were refused service because another customer (White) felt threatened by us. This type of racial discrimination is unacceptable and we have to put a STOP TO IT. The manager looked me dead in the face and said she was refusing us service because she had a right to and simply she felt like it. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ESTABLISHMENT... PLEASE SHARE THIS POST... We need your help.

That caught the restaurant's attention.

"We got alerted through social media, so we always encourage our customers to respond to us or to comment on our social media pages," says Debra Stokes, the chief marketing officer for Wild Wing Cafe.

Representatives for Wild Wing Cafe say they immediately responded and spoke to Brown.

"We had a conversation," says Stokes. "It was a really good conversation. He and many of his family and friends were there about a month ago, and they are regular customers of ours. So, they were having a going away party, and they just didn't receive the experience that they have come to know and love."

Brown says an apology was offered and a free meal for the entire group, but he says he's not completely satisfied.

"We weren't coming there for a free meal. When we came there that night, we were coming to patronize the business. This is not a situation where you can just give us a free meal and everything is ok because it's deeper than that."

As of Thursday night, Brown said his post had been shared 900 times on business' Facebook page and his own page.

The only thing I see is this, "she asked us not to seat you in our section." I'm not even sure what that means.