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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:20 am
by Greed and Death
http://www.news4sanantonio.com/news/fea ... 1587.shtml

Seems the issue is because the goats milk lacks vitamins needed for infants, so that is why the state is interceding.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:20 am
by Farnhamia
Ailiailia wrote:Goat's milk is the best milk for kids. :)

:lol:

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:20 am
by Napkiraly
The Independent States wrote:Another example of overreactions from the state, Maine made threatened a local mom with arrest for feeding her baby non-GMO, healthy goat milk. Goat milk was used for thousands of years to treat allergies and build immunity, it also has no preservatives and is a perfect alternative for babies intolerant of human/cow milk. Before I even get into the fact that GMO made formulas can have negative affects on growth, can anybody possibly provide reason for this?

http://www.naturalnews.com/041653_Depar ... abies.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACamPgUXV0

A source devoted to quackery and a video with a man beyond the realm of batshit insane.

Should this be taken seriously? Decisions, decisions...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:22 am
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
Neo Arcad wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Oh, I couldn't tell if sarcasm or serious.


You couldn't tell that "The government invented facts" was sarcasm? :eyebrow:

The things I've seen on the good ol' internet in the past 15 years...

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:22 am
by The New Lowlands
Tell me, TIS, are you against the MMR jab?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:24 am
by The Independent States
Farnhamia wrote:
The Independent States wrote:
You're saying that fluoride, MSG, and aspartame are safe? Nope, even some mainstream articles are hinting that they're not but very blindly. Fluoride has been proven to reduce IQ and testosterone, and aspartame was proven to increase hunger and obesity in children (aspartame transfers into the body as wood alcohol, which is linked to blindness and seizures). But I can see that someone would doubt it if they have been listening to puppet stations such as NBC or CNN. Do you know who discredits the vaccine claims? People that sell them. Mercury causes brain damage, and mercury is in the vaccines, if that isn't common sense then nothing is.


http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/featur ... jean-choi/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/201 ... ition.html

http://vactruth.com/2013/07/04/vaccinat ... es-autism/

The fluoride source is a meta-study of other studies and the conclusion was, maybe we should look at this more. It is not a total condemnation of fluoride.

Gosh, science finds new evidence that artificial sweeteners might be bad for you. Remind me what this proves?

Mercury does not occur in vaccines. It was removed - although it was harmless - more than ten years ago, except for some influenza and tetanus vaccines.


Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:24 am
by Avenio
Farnhamia wrote:Mercury does not occur in vaccines. It was removed - although it was harmless - more than ten years ago, except for some influenza and tetanus vaccines.


And shockingly, amazingly, the rate of diagnosis for autism hasn't been affected. It's following the same pattern it has for the last twenty years uninterrupted.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:27 am
by The Independent States
Napkiraly wrote:
The Independent States wrote:Another example of overreactions from the state, Maine made threatened a local mom with arrest for feeding her baby non-GMO, healthy goat milk. Goat milk was used for thousands of years to treat allergies and build immunity, it also has no preservatives and is a perfect alternative for babies intolerant of human/cow milk. Before I even get into the fact that GMO made formulas can have negative affects on growth, can anybody possibly provide reason for this?

http://www.naturalnews.com/041653_Depar ... abies.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACamPgUXV0

A source devoted to quackery and a video with a man beyond the realm of batshit insane.

Should this be taken seriously? Decisions, decisions...


You know he's had NSA generals and health professionals on his show right?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:27 am
by Neo Arcad
Avenio wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Mercury does not occur in vaccines. It was removed - although it was harmless - more than ten years ago, except for some influenza and tetanus vaccines.


And shockingly, amazingly, the rate of diagnosis for autism hasn't been affected. It's following the same pattern it has for the last twenty years uninterrupted.


I hate to kill a good conversation/angry shouting match in the making, but let's not make this an autism and vaccines thread. It's about a New England witch-woman feeding her spawn a bizarre goat secretion, and Big Brother's attempts to stop her.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:27 am
by Katganistan
The Independent States wrote:Another example of overreactions from the state, Maine made threatened a local mom with arrest for feeding her baby non-GMO, healthy goat milk. Goat milk was used for thousands of years to treat allergies and build immunity, it also has no preservatives and is a perfect alternative for babies intolerant of human/cow milk. Before I even get into the fact that GMO made formulas can have negative affects on growth, can anybody possibly provide reason for this?

http://www.naturalnews.com/041653_Depar ... abies.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACamPgUXV0

I find that hard to believe. No one pisses and moans about feeding kids cow's milk, and it's more likely to upset the digestion.

Goat's milk is often used when kids are allergic to cow's.

Or is this another "government wants to force you to feed your kids chemicals!!!101111!!!! thingie?

Maybe this goat's milk isn't pasteurized or something? I mean ffs, they sell goat's milk in my supermarket.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:28 am
by United Furry Alliance
Damn this topics "hot" IMO they should have just got damn liquid vitamins or put them in the milk.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:29 am
by Napkiraly
The Independent States wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The fluoride source is a meta-study of other studies and the conclusion was, maybe we should look at this more. It is not a total condemnation of fluoride.

Gosh, science finds new evidence that artificial sweeteners might be bad for you. Remind me what this proves?

Mercury does not occur in vaccines. It was removed - although it was harmless - more than ten years ago, except for some influenza and tetanus vaccines.


Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

In certain amounts of concentrations it does.

Do you eat fish?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:30 am
by Gauthier
The Independent States wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:Please, tell us all about your conspiracy theory that the AAP only publishes things that Obama has stamped.


Again, they encourage GMO made formulas made from high fructose corn syrup (which slows growth in infants btw). I'm not sure what makes this a "conspiracy theory", anyone can say that their argument is truth but haven't we seen this over and over? You cant have knowledge without truth, dont deny it.


Which is why we let Christian Scientists off the hook when their children die because they thought praying for God and Jesus to cast Cure Critical Wounds instead of taking them to the hospital is sound medical advice.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:30 am
by Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
Ailiailia wrote:Goat's milk is the best milk for kids. :)

Pretty sure medical experts would recommend human or donkey milk instead.

Human is obviously problematic for our place at the top of various alimentar webs, meaning we end up with a greater concentration of toxines in our bodies, but still it is very important until 6 months.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:31 am
by Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro
United Furry Alliance wrote:Damn this topics "hot" IMO they should have just got damn liquid vitamins or put them in the milk.

Alimentar balance is not that easy to obtain.

Artificial nutrification isn't a guarantee it will be absorbed by the digestion proccess even of adults.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:32 am
by The New Lowlands
The Independent States wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:The fluoride source is a meta-study of other studies and the conclusion was, maybe we should look at this more. It is not a total condemnation of fluoride.

Gosh, science finds new evidence that artificial sweeteners might be bad for you. Remind me what this proves?

Mercury does not occur in vaccines. It was removed - although it was harmless - more than ten years ago, except for some influenza and tetanus vaccines.


Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

The thing is, I trust somebody who's fucking job it is to mix this stuff up- the same stuff then having to go through a series of rigorous medical trials- more than I trust an misinformed non-chemists' opinion.

There's questioning authority, and there's being absurd.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:32 am
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:Goat's milk is the best milk for kids. :)

Pretty sure medical experts would recommend human or donkey milk instead.

Human is obviously problematic for our place at the top of various alimentar webs, meaning we end up with a greater concentration of toxines in our bodies, but still it is very important until 6 months.

You missed the joke.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:36 am
by United Furry Alliance
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
United Furry Alliance wrote:Damn this topics "hot" IMO they should have just got damn liquid vitamins or put them in the milk.

Alimentar balance is not that easy to obtain.

Artificial nutrification isn't a guarantee it will be absorbed by the digestion proccess even of adults.

Did they give it a chance. (no they didn't) So it stays an option till they do.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:36 am
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
My question is, the woman clearly tried to feed from the breast. Why didn't she just put breast milk in a bottle? Why did she abandon breast milk and head straight for fucking goat's milk?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:36 am
by AiliailiA
Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:Goat's milk is the best milk for kids. :)

Pretty sure medical experts would recommend human or donkey milk instead.


Human milk? That's just weird ...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:38 am
by The Corparation
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:My question is, the woman clearly tried to feed from the breast. Why didn't she just put breast milk in a bottle? Why did she abandon breast milk and head straight for fucking goat's milk?

Obviously she accidentally drank fluoridated water and the breast milk thus had concentrated Flourine that would of given her child Downs Syndrome and also somehow AIDS,

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:39 am
by Torcularis Septentrionalis
The Corparation wrote:
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:My question is, the woman clearly tried to feed from the breast. Why didn't she just put breast milk in a bottle? Why did she abandon breast milk and head straight for fucking goat's milk?

Obviously she accidentally drank fluoridated water and the breast milk thus had concentrated Flourine that would of given her child Downs Syndrome and also somehow AIDS,

About as much sense as anything that the conspiracy theorists are coming up with.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:40 am
by Brocwika
Neo Arcad wrote:
Avenio wrote:
And shockingly, amazingly, the rate of diagnosis for autism hasn't been affected. It's following the same pattern it has for the last twenty years uninterrupted.


I hate to kill a good conversation/angry shouting match in the making, but let's not make this an autism and vaccines thread. It's about a New England witch-woman feeding her spawn a bizarre goat secretion, and Big Brother's attempts to stop her.


You're my new favorite person.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:53 am
by Ashmoria
The Independent States wrote:Another example of overreactions from the state, Maine made threatened a local mom with arrest for feeding her baby non-GMO, healthy goat milk. Goat milk was used for thousands of years to treat allergies and build immunity, it also has no preservatives and is a perfect alternative for babies intolerant of human/cow milk. Before I even get into the fact that GMO made formulas can have negative affects on growth, can anybody possibly provide reason for this?

http://www.naturalnews.com/041653_Depar ... abies.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ACamPgUXV0

when I was a baby 56 years ago it was common to make your own infant formula out of canned milk, corn syrup and...whatever else was available.

today we have scientifically formulated infant formula that has an excellent chance of giving your baby everything it needs to grow and thrive. the next best thing to breast milk.

I think the state is very right to stop this mother from making her own formula based on stuff she read online.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:55 am
by Ashmoria
Torcularis Septentrionalis wrote:My question is, the woman clearly tried to feed from the breast. Why didn't she just put breast milk in a bottle? Why did she abandon breast milk and head straight for fucking goat's milk?


....

she tried and was unsuccessful. there are many kinds of unsuccessful but pretty much all of them result in not making enough milk to feed the baby.