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If you are GM and have a 1st Overall pick for 2014 NHL draft, who would you pick?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:26 pm

Sam Reinhart
2
33%
Michael Dal Colle
0
No votes
Aaron Ekblad
2
33%
William Nylander
1
17%
Leon Draisaitl
0
No votes
Others
1
17%
 
Total votes : 6

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Postby Nation of Quebec » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:19 am

Shofercia wrote:Dallas v Ottawa
Calgary v Chicago
New Jersey v Minnesota


Dallas
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Minnesota
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:49 am

Shofercia wrote:Dallas v Ottawa
Calgary v Chicago
New Jersey v Minnesota

Stars, Hawks, Wild

Also, do the Sabres know the basics of hockey?

dallas
Chicago
wild

yes its the fact that we're basically a team of rookies. also so this is what being a leafs fan is like, I almost feel bad for you NoQ

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Postby Qazox » Sun Nov 03, 2013 11:09 am

Wild
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Postby Christmahanikwanzikah » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:00 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Dallas v Ottawa
Calgary v Chicago
New Jersey v Minnesota

Stars, Hawks, Wild

Also, do the Sabres know the basics of hockey?

dallas
Chicago
wild

yes its the fact that we're basically a team of rookies. also so this is what being a leafs fan is like, I almost feel bad for you NoQ


Ron Rolston would make a terrible life coach. His followers would feel down early and often. :P

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Postby Lesbia » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:01 pm

Qazox wrote:
Lesbia wrote:But different goalies play.

Since the goalie is on the ice for the whole game (99% of the time) the actual score is his +/-. +/- is really a useless category, IMHO, as someone just coming onto the ice during a line shift gets dinged for a -1 if a goal is scored vs. his team during the switch; but doesn't get a +1 if his team scores... :palm:

But he was saying that a goalie's +/- would be the same as the team's, that's not true.
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Postby Qazox » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:42 pm

Lesbia wrote:
Qazox wrote:Since the goalie is on the ice for the whole game (99% of the time) the actual score is his +/-. +/- is really a useless category, IMHO, as someone just coming onto the ice during a line shift gets dinged for a -1 if a goal is scored vs. his team during the switch; but doesn't get a +1 if his team scores... :palm:

But he was saying that a goalie's +/- would be the same as the team's, that's not true.

It is, except on empty net goals.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:47 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:dallas
Chicago
wild

yes its the fact that we're basically a team of rookies. also so this is what being a leafs fan is like, I almost feel bad for you NoQ


Ron Rolston would make a terrible life coach. His followers would feel down early and often. :P

nah, we're just using the Pittsburgh method of rebuilding.

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Nov 03, 2013 1:07 pm

United Kingdom of Poland wrote:
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
Ron Rolston would make a terrible life coach. His followers would feel down early and often. :P

nah, we're just using the Pittsburgh method of rebuilding.

Except the prospects aren't that good.
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Postby Lesbia » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:48 pm

Qazox wrote:
Lesbia wrote:But he was saying that a goalie's +/- would be the same as the team's, that's not true.

It is, except on empty net goals.

Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:11 pm

Lesbia wrote:
Qazox wrote:It is, except on empty net goals.

Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.

This was my point... except I usually don't use scientific impossibilities, such as the devils winning a 4-0 shutout, in my examples. :p
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Postby Lesbia » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:13 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Lesbia wrote:Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.

This was my point... except I usually don't use scientific impossibilities, such as the devils winning a 4-0 shutout, in my examples. :p

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Postby Domenic and friends » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:14 pm

im sadly a Florida Panthers Fan :(

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Postby Shofercia » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:16 pm

Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:dallas
Chicago
wild

yes its the fact that we're basically a team of rookies. also so this is what being a leafs fan is like, I almost feel bad for you NoQ


Ron Rolston would make a terrible life coach. His followers would feel down early and often. :P


From Ron Rolston's life lessons: "Imagine yourself AS A PIECE OF UTTER SHIT YA SHITHOLE, sitting calmly on the nice beach..."


Domenic and friends wrote:im sadly a Florida Panthers Fan :(


Yeah, don't you wish a court could decide which hockey team actually won, irrespective of the result? :P


Also: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013 ... yout-ends/

nbc should hire him to be the hardy to pierre mcguire’s laurel behind the glass.

PIERRE: OH BOY EDZO WE JUST SAW FIRST HAND HOW SPECIAL OF A PLAYER CROSBY IS. JUST LOOK AT THE PRIDE OF COLE HARBOR NOVA SCOTIA DISPLAY THE KIND OF HOCKEY SENSE THAT YOU JUST CANT TEACH.

BRYZ: why you heff to be so excited. is just simple dump in. he just kind of smack at puck.


Thought you guys might enjoy that :P
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Postby Qazox » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:19 pm

Lesbia wrote:
Qazox wrote:It is, except on empty net goals.

Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.

+/- is for single game only, not over multiple games. And they do have +/- for goalies... it's called WINS & LOSSES... :p
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Postby Lesbia » Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:56 pm

Qazox wrote:
Lesbia wrote:Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.

+/- is for single game only, not over multiple games.

No...
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Postby Qazox » Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:00 pm

Lesbia wrote:
Qazox wrote:+/- is for single game only, not over multiple games.

No...

It is a cumulative thing, but it's based off each game.
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Postby The Treorai » Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:56 am

Qazox wrote:
Lesbia wrote:Say the Devils play Brodeur and they win 4-0. The next day they play Schneider and they lose 4-0. Then the team's +/- is an equal zero, but Brodeur and Schneider have different +/- numbers, so no, they do not match the team's.

+/- is for single game only, not over multiple games. And they do have +/- for goalies... it's called WINS & LOSSES... :p

Saying just wins and losses doesn't tell how many goals they kept out compared to how many goals were put in while they were on the ice.

For instance: If a netminder let in a goal, and his team scored three, he would be a +2 for that game. Now in the next, he got a shutout and his team scored four, his +/- is now +5.
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Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Maineiacs » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:58 am

Games for 11/4:

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Postby Allied States of Demokratia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:45 am

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:07 am

Maineiacs wrote:Games for 11/4:

Anaheim @ Rangers -- Anaheim

Detroit @ Winnipeg -- Detroit

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Postby The Serbian Empire » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:14 am

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Postby Sicoutimont » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:57 pm

Anaheim and Detroit.
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Postby Lesbia » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:18 pm

Sicoutimont wrote:Anaheim and Detroit.
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Postby Qazox » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:29 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Qazox wrote:+/- is for single game only, not over multiple games. And they do have +/- for goalies... it's called WINS & LOSSES... :p

Saying just wins and losses doesn't tell how many goals they kept out compared to how many goals were put in while they were on the ice.

For instance: If a netminder let in a goal, and his team scored three, he would be a +2 for that game. Now in the next, he got a shutout and his team scored four, his +/- is now +5.

As stated earlier +/- is meaningless; and even more meaningless for goalies. They have no control over goals scored, that's why it isn't kept track of for goalies.
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Postby Qazox » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:30 pm

Rangers and Jets.... weren't those the 2 gangs from West Side Story? :p
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