2013-2014 NHL Discussion Thread

[Shofercia]

Hey now, I put the "most" qualifier in there, you aren't allowed to come at me with your "facts."

It's true though Tarasov transformed not only CSKA but Soviet hockey as well.

Honestly, I can see Jagr's number on rafters following his retirement. Deserves to be up there.

Yep

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

It's true though Tarasov transformed not only CSKA but Soviet hockey as well.

Honestly, I can see Jagr's number on rafters following his retirement. Deserves to be up there.

Yep

Give greatest of my respects to that man, for now I have found a good way to coach hockey in future: Bone-breaking but very systematic, with emphasis on transition games.

[The Treorai]

As a goalie in Rec League Hockey in Alabama, I find it so fun to play third defense man.

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

Anyways, here is my list for top 10 QMJHL prospects for upcoming NHL draft. I'll be doing one per every month, so enjoy:

1. Nikolaj Ehlers, LW(Halifax)
2. Ivan Barbashev, LW(Moncton)
3. Daniel Audette, C/LW(Sherbrooke)
4. Clark Bishop, C(Cape Breton)
5. Alexis Vanier, D(Baie-Comeau)
6. Vaclav Karabacek, RW(Gatineau)
7. Georgs Golovkovs, C(Drummondville)
8. Nicolas Aube-Kubel, RW(Val d'Or)
9. Mason McDonald, G(Acadie-Bathurst)
10. Julien Nantel, RW(Rouyn-Noranda)

Not as good as the 2013 class, but good enough to have 3-5 players on first round, with Barbashev and Ehlers to be in as locks.

[The Treorai]

So I was prowling YouTube, watching Let's Plays and Hockey Highlights, when I came back to that Todd Bertuzzi video I posted yesterday. Looking at the comments, some people actually defend Todd on his cheap shot to Steve Moore.

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

So I was prowling YouTube, watching Let's Plays and Hockey Highlights, when I came back to that Todd Bertuzzi video I posted yesterday. Looking at the comments, some people actually defend Todd on his cheap shot to Steve Moore.

Hah, some? I could swear I saw half the people calling Bertuzzi a scumbag, and the other half saying Bertuzzi was right for cold-cocking Moore - who they also call a scumbag.

Welcome to YouTube.

[The Treorai]

So I was prowling YouTube, watching Let's Plays and Hockey Highlights, when I came back to that Todd Bertuzzi video I posted yesterday. Looking at the comments, some people actually defend Todd on his cheap shot to Steve Moore.

Hah, some? I could swear I saw half the people calling Bertuzzi a scumbag, and the other half saying Bertuzzi was right for cold-cocking Moore - who they also call a scumbag.

Welcome to YouTube.

People don't know the game of Hockey. It really gets on my tits when people act like idiots because something tragic happened.

[Shofercia]

So now that we're on the topic of Bertuzzi, does anyone here think that letting him return to the NHL wasn't a mistake?

[The Treorai]

So now that we're on the topic of Bertuzzi, does anyone here think that letting him return to the NHL wasn't a mistake?

Yup. There is no monetary penalty that can fix Steve Moore.

It sickens me that Steve Moore will never lace up a pair of skates again, but Bertuzzi is still playing in the NHL.

[The Royal Kingdom of Quebec]

So now that we're on the topic of Bertuzzi, does anyone here think that letting him return to the NHL wasn't a mistake?

I think it was a mistake.

[Maineiacs]

Games for 12/9:

NY Islanders @ Anaheim -- Anaheim

Philadelphia @ Ottawa -- Ottawa

Columbus @ Pittsburgh -- Pittsburgh

Carolina @ Vancouver -- Vancouver

[Nation of Quebec]

Games for 12/9:

NY Islanders @ Anaheim -- Anaheim

Philadelphia @ Ottawa -- Ottawa

Columbus @ Pittsburgh -- Pittsburgh

Carolina @ Vancouver -- Vancouver

Agreed with on all games.

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Games for 12/9:

NY Islanders @ Anaheim -- Anaheim

Philadelphia @ Ottawa -- Ottawa

Columbus @ Pittsburgh -- Pittsburgh

Carolina @ Vancouver -- Vancouver

ducks, sens, penguins, canucks

[Lesbia]

Might as well play it safe and agree.

[Shofercia]

Sens, Pens, Canucks, Ducks

[Go Canucks Go]

The Bruins-Penguins game was a clear cut case of pathetic officiating letting a game get out of hand and players going over the top in reaction. There probably should have been four suspensions coming out of that game, which would have been the case if any of the offending players had been wearing Canucks jerseys.

The cheap shot slash from behind that broke Kelly's leg should have been a 3 game suspension. A Canucks player does this and it's 5-16 games for wearing the wrong jersey. Several players, not named Kessel, have been suspended multiple games for this kind of vicious stick work.

Orpik's big hit should have been called for a major penalty when it happened. The puck was in the vicinity, but not played by the victim, and it was a clear case of head hunting. Given that hits like this are Orpik's bread and butter, it was suspend worthy too. Given that the NHL is supposed to be protecting players from headhunting, the refs really dropped the ball and as a result things quickly got out of hand.

Neal's knee to the head is one of the dirtiest things I've ever seen in the NHL. Given that he's a repeat offender he should have thrown the book at him for such a bush league play and his failure to own up to it. 5 games isn't enough for a dirty hit like that and I say that as someone who really hates Marchant as a player.

Thornton overreacted to the referees doing a crap job and the Penguins getting away with cheap shot after cheap shot (this outrages Boston when they're not the ones dishing out the cheap shots for a change). He should get suspended for at least 5 games, but for some miraculous reason has never been called to the carpet for his previous acts of carnage, so they really shouldn't be throwing the book at him. Claude Julien should also be fined as the bench boss, for sending him out on a quick change, at the end of the play for the express reason of beating people up.

The referees responsible for this mess should be sent to the minors for mental conditioning and someone else take over their games for them. They did a crap job and were clearly not up for such a high profile assignment. Maybe give them some Florida-Islanders games to work, and keep them away from marquee match-ups until they're ready.

[The Treorai]

The Bruins-Penguins game was a clear cut case of pathetic officiating letting a game get out of hand and players going over the top in reaction. There probably should have been four suspensions coming out of that game, which would have been the case if any of the offending players had been wearing Canucks jerseys.

The cheap shot slash from behind that broke Kelly's leg should have been a 3 game suspension. A Canucks player does this and it's 5-16 games for wearing the wrong jersey. Several players, not named Kessel, have been suspended multiple games for this kind of vicious stick work.

Orpik's big hit should have been called for a major penalty when it happened. The puck was in the vicinity, but not played by the victim, and it was a clear case of head hunting. Given that hits like this are Orpik's bread and butter, it was suspend worthy too. Given that the NHL is supposed to be protecting players from headhunting, the refs really dropped the ball and as a result things quickly got out of hand.

Neal's knee to the head is one of the dirtiest things I've ever seen in the NHL. Given that he's a repeat offender he should have thrown the book at him for such a bush league play and his failure to own up to it. 5 games isn't enough for a dirty hit like that and I say that as someone who really hates Marchant as a player.

Thornton overreacted to the referees doing a crap job and the Penguins getting away with cheap shot after cheap shot (this outrages Boston when they're not the ones dishing out the cheap shots for a change). He should get suspended for at least 5 games, but for some miraculous reason has never been called to the carpet for his previous acts of carnage, so they really shouldn't be throwing the book at him. Claude Julien should also be fined as the bench boss, for sending him out on a quick change, at the end of the play for the express reason of beating people up.

The referees responsible for this mess should be sent to the minors for mental conditioning and someone else take over their games for them. They did a crap job and were clearly not up for such a high profile assignment. Maybe give them some Florida-Islanders games to work, and keep them away from marquee match-ups until they're ready.

Oh please, your persecution complex does you no favors.

[Camicon]

The Bruins-Penguins game was a clear cut case of pathetic officiating letting a game get out of hand and players going over the top in reaction. There probably should have been four suspensions coming out of that game, which would have been the case if any of the offending players had been wearing Canucks jerseys.

Right. Totally. I am definitely going to take you seriously for the rest of this post. Absolutely.

The cheap shot slash from behind that broke Kelly's leg should have been a 3 game suspension. A Canucks player does this and it's 5-16 games for wearing the wrong jersey. Several players, not named Kessel, have been suspended multiple games for this kind of vicious stick work.

No beef there. Should've been a call on the play. Should go up for review. Though the idea that a Canuck's player would have gotten a multi-game suspension for the same move is laughable at best.

Orpik's big hit should have been called for a major penalty when it happened. The puck was in the vicinity, but not played by the victim, and it was a clear case of head hunting. Given that hits like this are Orpik's bread and butter, it was suspend worthy too. Given that the NHL is supposed to be protecting players from headhunting, the refs really dropped the ball and as a result things quickly got out of hand.

It was a clean hit. Doesn't matter if you don't like it.

Neal's knee to the head is one of the dirtiest things I've ever seen in the NHL. Given that he's a repeat offender he should have thrown the book at him for such a bush league play and his failure to own up to it. 5 games isn't enough for a dirty hit like that and I say that as someone who really hates Marchant as a player.

One of the dirtiest, eh? Did you not see what Thornton did after the play?

Thornton overreacted to the referees doing a crap job and the Penguins getting away with cheap shot after cheap shot (this outrages Boston when they're not the ones dishing out the cheap shots for a change). He should get suspended for at least 5 games, but for some miraculous reason has never been called to the carpet for his previous acts of carnage, so they really shouldn't be throwing the book at him. Claude Julien should also be fined as the bench boss, for sending him out on a quick change, at the end of the play for the express reason of beating people up.

Oh, apparently you did. And you want to treat Thornton more leniently than Neil? Something tells me you have an axe to grind here.

The referees responsible for this mess should be sent to the minors for mental conditioning and someone else take over their games for them. They did a crap job and were clearly not up for such a high profile assignment. Maybe give them some Florida-Islanders games to work, and keep them away from marquee match-ups until they're ready.

The refs missed a few calls and didn't give Neil the penalty he deserved, yes, but nothing they could have done would have stopped what happened during that game.

[Maineiacs]

Games for 12/10:

Ottawa @ Buffalo -- Ottawa

Los Angeles @ Montréal -- Montréal

Tampa Bay @ Washington -- Tampa Bay

New Jersey @ Columbus -- Columbus

Nashville @ NY Rangers -- Nashville

Detroit @ Florida -- Detroit

St. Louis @ Winnipeg -- St. Louis

Chicago @ Dallas -- Chicago

Phoenix @ Colorado -- Phoenix

Boston @ Calgary -- Boston

Carolina @ Edmonton -- Carolina

NY Islanders @ San Jose -- San Jose

[Lesbia]

Ottawa
Los Angeles
Washington
New Jersey
New York
Detroit
St. Louis
Dallas
Phoenix
Boston
Carolina
San Jose

[Shofercia]

Games for 12/10:

Ottawa @ Buffalo
Los Angeles @ Montréal
Tampa Bay @ Washington
New Jersey @ Columbus
Nashville @ NY Rangers
Detroit @ Florida
St. Louis @ Winnipeg
Chicago @ Dallas
Phoenix @ Colorado
Boston @ Calgary
Carolina @ Edmonton
NY Islanders @ San Jose

Sens, Kings, Caps, Blue Jackets, Rags, Wings, Blues, Stars, Avs, Bruins, Canes, Sharks

[Nation of Quebec]

Games for 12/10:

Ottawa @ Buffalo

Los Angeles @ Montréal

Tampa Bay @ Washington

New Jersey @ Columbus

Nashville @ NY Rangers

Detroit @ Florida

St. Louis @ Winnipeg

Chicago @ Dallas

Phoenix @ Colorado

Boston @ Calgary

Carolina @ Edmonton

NY Islanders @ San Jose

Ottawa
Montreal
Washington
Columbus
NY Rangers
Detroit
St. Louis
Chicago
Colorado
Boston
Carolina
San Jose

[United Kingdom of Poland]

Games for 12/10:

Ottawa @ Buffalo -- buffalo

Los Angeles @ Montréal -- LA

Tampa Bay @ Washington -- Tampa Bay

New Jersey @ Columbus -- Columbus

Nashville @ NY Rangers -- Nashville

Detroit @ Florida -- Detroit

St. Louis @ Winnipeg -- St. Louis

Chicago @ Dallas -- Chicago

Phoenix @ Colorado -- Aves

Boston @ Calgary -- Boston

Carolina @ Edmonton -- Carolina

NY Islanders @ San Jose -- San Jose

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

Phaneuf gets two for boarding. Cue everyone complaining about how if it was $team, he would've received 5.

Coincidentally: "Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and, based on his average annual salary, Phaneuf will forfeit $66,666.66..."

lol'd

[Shofercia]

Phaneuf gets two for boarding. Cue everyone complaining about how if it was $team, he would've received 5.

Coincidentally: "Under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and, based on his average annual salary, Phaneuf will forfeit $66,666.66..."

lol'd

Anyone still remember Phanuef's fighting fall fail?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8K-szxQg8

Ruutu better watch out, those are some mad fighting skills right there