Objections to monarchy

[The Nuclear Fist]

I don't see how anyone could object to Monarchy.

Dictatorship is bad. A monarchy is only tolerable when the monarch's power has been neutered.

Tea is good.

I prefer coffee.

Distributionism and all that.

In theory.

God Save the Queen.

There is no god and queens shouldn't exist.

No gods, no kings, no masters.

Tally Hoe!

I'll pass.

[The Parkus Empire]

Not really, unless you see being part of society as without any inherent obligations whatsoever.

It doesn't.

One should be able to exist without societal obligations.

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

[New Randia]

the problem with "go build you libertarian utopia" is that the united states government and the united nations have this little thing called the law of the sea treaty which basically says that the un now has soverignity over international waters. since ALL land on earth is now claimed by a soverign government somewhere the only place to build that utopia would be international waters. if i am trying to escape governance, why would i go to the jurisdiction of an one world government to try to do so.

governments and the un are actively working to ensure that they will not have any real competiton to their "social contracts"

and yes i do believe that living in a society carries zero burden to maintain that society. humans create societies because they want to. those who want a particular social arrangement are, and should be, free to VOLUNTARILY maintain that arrangement. I SHOULD BE FREE TO LEAVE.

and no. i dont want any goddamn government services. i can manage just fine without them. (including defending myself, thank you very much)

[Vazdania]

I don't see how anyone could object to Monarchy.

Dictatorship is bad. A monarchy is only tolerable when the monarch's power has been neutered.

Tea is good.

I prefer coffee.

Distributionism and all that.

In theory.

God Save the Queen.

There is no god and queens shouldn't exist.

No gods, no kings, no masters.

Tally Hoe!

I'll pass.

hmm....you didn't argue my favorite.....wow...

[The Parkus Empire]

the problem with "go build you libertarian utopia" is that the united states government and the united nations have this little thing called the law of the sea treaty which basically says that the un now has soverignity over international waters. since ALL land on earth is now claimed by a soverign government somewhere the only place to build that utopia would be international waters. if i am trying to escape governance, why would i go to the jurisdiction of an one world government to try to do so.

governments and the un are actively working to ensure that they will not have any real competiton to their "social contracts"

and yes i do believe that living in a society carries zero burden to maintain that society. humans create societies because they want to. those who want a particular social arrangement are, and should be, free to VOLUNTARILY maintain that arrangement. I SHOULD BE FREE TO LEAVE.

and no. i dont want any goddamn government services. i can manage just fine without them. (including defending myself, thank you very much)

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

[The Nuclear Fist]

hmm....you didn't argue my favorite.....wow...

It wasn't important or relevant.

[New Randia]

the thought has occured to me that me and a few of my "homies" could band together and invade some unstable state somewhere and create our utopia but that would both violate our principles, and be met with resistance by that dictators club called the united nations.

[The Parkus Empire]

the thought has occured to me that me and a few of my "homies" could band together and invade some unstable state somewhere and create our utopia but that would both violate our principles, and be met with resistance by that dictators club called the united nations.

[New Randia]

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

i dont want you to care. i want to be let out of your corrupt social contract. your government (and it doesnt matter which government that is because every country that matters is a member of the UN) is actively working to thwart any chance i have of escaping the social contract i was born under. i consider this an act of war...

[The Nuclear Fist]

i consider this an act of war...

Oh ho ho, please do.

[The Parkus Empire]

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

i dont want you to care. i want to be let out of your corrupt social contract. your government (and it doesnt matter which government that is because every country that matters is a member of the UN) is actively working to thwart any chance i have of escaping the social contract i was born under. i consider this an act of war...

Go ahead. If society values you at zero, though, then why should it find your complaints anything other than amusing?

[Minarchist States]

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

i dont want you to care. i want to be let out of your corrupt social contract. your government (and it doesnt matter which government that is because every country that matters is a member of the UN) is actively working to thwart any chance i have of escaping the social contract i was born under. i consider this an act of war...

Indeed, for any libertarian state to exist they need to be armed to the teeth
Remember what happened to Minerva?

Anyway this thread got jacked by libertarians and anarchists. How could a monarch exist without having a class of people with both illegimate economic and political power ? The rich aren't as bad when they are not surrounding a king, I believe.

[Genivaria]

I can see no valid argument for this. Why should society care about those who do not care about society?

i dont want you to care. i want to be let out of your corrupt social contract. your government (and it doesnt matter which government that is because every country that matters is a member of the UN) is actively working to thwart any chance i have of escaping the social contract i was born under. i consider this an act of war...

Well aren't you full of yourself.

[The Parkus Empire]

i dont want you to care. i want to be let out of your corrupt social contract. your government (and it doesnt matter which government that is because every country that matters is a member of the UN) is actively working to thwart any chance i have of escaping the social contract i was born under. i consider this an act of war...

Well aren't you full of yourself.

*shoots him* Problem solved, war's over.

[Condunum]

A ruler raised to power is far better then one born to it.
One has to earn it, the other merely inherits it.

Not many politicians in power in the USA earned their positions.

[Ayreonia]

"Monarchy isn't crap, because democracy has faults." Damn, you almost had me.

[Condunum]

Anyways...King George the 3rd is my favorite.
I don't see how anyone could object to Monarchy.
Tea is good.
Distributionism and all that.
God Save the Queen.
Tally Hoe!

Oh, okay. You aren't a monarchist, your a UK fanboy... At least it makes sense now.

[Libertarian California]

Monarchs (and their families) are inbreeding, of the bluest blood imaginable, and a part landed political/social class that reigns supreme.

And its only justifications are "god" and a birthright.

[Libertarian California]

A ruler raised to power is far better then one born to it.
One has to earn it, the other merely inherits it.

Not many politicians in power in the USA earned their positions.

They still did more than Elizabeth II.

All she did was get birthed.

[Risottia]

Monarchy?
A superstructural relic of societies founded on feudalism. It has no actual meaning nowadays.

[Frisivisia]

Monarchy?
A superstructural relic of societies founded on feudalism. It has no actual meaning nowadays.

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As a non Nazi commie gay-theist alternative to that picture,

AMERCA FUK YEA!!!!

[Libertarian California]

Monarchy?
A superstructural relic of societies founded on feudalism. It has no actual meaning nowadays.

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George III, Louis XVI, and Nicholas II can rot in hell.

Well, if hell existed. But you know what I'm saying.

[The Parkus Empire]

Monarchy?
A superstructural relic of societies founded on feudalism. It has no actual meaning nowadays.

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Ultra economic libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism are schools of neo-feudalism, I'd say, so this makes sense.

[Condunum]

Not many politicians in power in the USA earned their positions.

They still did more than Elizabeth II.

All she did was get birthed.

I'd honestly like someone to say with a straight face that all monarchs are entitled and none of them earned their positions, because I need a laugh.

[Libertarian California]

They still did more than Elizabeth II.

All she did was get birthed.

I'd honestly like someone to say with a straight face that all monarchs are entitled and none of them earned their positions, because I need a laugh.

Unless they won an election, usurped power, overthrew someone, initiated some kinda coup, or use something other than their last name or a religion to justify their existence in such a privileged class, then most monarchs didn't do shit to earn their position.

Now, many monarchs may have been good leaders once they were in power, but why did they get that position of power in the first place? Because King Daddy and Queen Mommy fucked.