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[Abatael]

Their constitution will disagree with you:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituti ... orth_Korea

The constitution establishes North Korea's official name and its status as a communist state.[9] Article 12 defines the country as a "dictatorship of people's democracy" (a wording that closely follows the Chinese model of the people's democratic dictatorship) under the leadership of the Workers' Party. It provides for civil and political rights, such as freedom of expression, the right to elect officials, the right to a fair trial, and freedom of religion. It asserts the right of every citizen to work, education, food, and health care. However, Article 81 requires that all North Koreans "firmly safeguard the political and ideological unity and solidarity of the people," and Article requires that citizens observe "the socialist standards of life."

Their constitution also establishes their descriptor as "Democratic people's republic", despite not being democratic, for the people, or a republic. To hell with the North Korean constitution.

It says it's "OF the people," not "FOR the people."

They do hold elections consisting of people.

[Geilinor]

Their constitution also establishes their descriptor as "Democratic people's republic", despite not being democratic, for the people, or a republic. To hell with the North Korean constitution.

It says it's "OF the people," not "FOR the people."

They do hold elections consisting of people.

The three political parties are part of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of the Fatherland. The PRC has elections too, but they don't mean anything because the Communist Party is supreme.

[Freiheit Reich]

Their constitution will disagree with you:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituti ... orth_Korea

The constitution establishes North Korea's official name and its status as a communist state.[9] Article 12 defines the country as a "dictatorship of people's democracy" (a wording that closely follows the Chinese model of the people's democratic dictatorship) under the leadership of the Workers' Party. It provides for civil and political rights, such as freedom of expression, the right to elect officials, the right to a fair trial, and freedom of religion. It asserts the right of every citizen to work, education, food, and health care. However, Article 81 requires that all North Koreans "firmly safeguard the political and ideological unity and solidarity of the people," and Article requires that citizens observe "the socialist standards of life."

Their constitution also establishes their descriptor as "Democratic people's republic", despite not being democratic, for the people, or a republic. To hell with the North Korean constitution.

The people must be happy with their leaders. They have kept the same family in power for over 50 years. In some other nations when the leaders were corrupt a revolution occurred and the people forced a leadership change (not always with good leaders but different anyways). Look at what happened in France, Russia, USA, and Cuba.

Maybe outsiders are wrong and all is well in NK.

[Geilinor]

Their constitution also establishes their descriptor as "Democratic people's republic", despite not being democratic, for the people, or a republic. To hell with the North Korean constitution.

The people must be happy with their leaders. They have kept the same family in power for over 50 years. In some other nations when the leaders were corrupt a revolution occurred and the people forced a leadership change (not always with good leaders but different anyways). Look at what happened in France, Russia, USA, and Cuba.

Maybe outsiders are wrong and all is well in NK.

You think North Korea is a utopia?

[Abatael]

It says it's "OF the people," not "FOR the people."

They do hold elections consisting of people.

The three political parties are part of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of the Fatherland.

It's a unified front. And there are more than three parties. There are at least five.

What's PRC?

[Abatael]

The people must be happy with their leaders. They have kept the same family in power for over 50 years. In some other nations when the leaders were corrupt a revolution occurred and the people forced a leadership change (not always with good leaders but different anyways). Look at what happened in France, Russia, USA, and Cuba.

Maybe outsiders are wrong and all is well in NK.

You think North Korea is a utopia?

Actually, to the people in the concentration camps, they think that's how life is for everyone. While they don't like it, they think they deserve it and that there is no alternative. Most people in the camps have no idea where they are, what Juche is or even who Kim Jong Il is.

And those, who aren't in the camps. according to one defector, are okay with their conditions.

[Arumdaum]

Wonderful, the article says communist state of North Korea, while it isn't communist, yay.

Their constitution will disagree with you:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constituti ... orth_Korea

The constitution establishes North Korea's official name and its status as a communist state.[9] Article 12 defines the country as a "dictatorship of people's democracy" (a wording that closely follows the Chinese model of the people's democratic dictatorship) under the leadership of the Workers' Party. It provides for civil and political rights, such as freedom of expression, the right to elect officials, the right to a fair trial, and freedom of religion. It asserts the right of every citizen to work, education, food, and health care. However, Article 81 requires that all North Koreans "firmly safeguard the political and ideological unity and solidarity of the people," and Article requires that citizens observe "the socialist standards of life."

The actual text in the constitution disagrees with you.

http://asiamatters.blogspot.kr/2009/10/ ... -2009.html

[Geilinor]

The three political parties are part of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of the Fatherland.

It's a unified front. And there are more than three parties. There are at least five.

What's PRC?

What do you think? The People's Republic of China, as opposed to the Republic of China, also known as Taiwan.

[Costa Alegria]

The people must be happy with their leaders.

Either you've been living in a cave for 50 years or you haven't got the slightest clue of what happens in NK. The people there are told to praise the Kims as gods. They have it drummed into them from childhood.

They have kept the same family in power for over 50 years.

You think the people of North Korea have actually voted to keep the Kims in power? Are you fucking serious? The Kims have kept themselves in power through their near omnipresent control over nearly every aspect of the lives of average North Koreans ever since the state came into existence. 50+ years of indoctrination into believing a personality cult does have a profound effect on the people there.

In some other nations when the leaders were corrupt a revolution occurred and the people forced a leadership change (not always with good leaders but different anyways). Look at what happened in France, Russia, USA, and Cuba.

When did a revolution happen in the US when their leaders were found to be corrupt? War of Independence? That wasn't a revolution so much as a war of the people fighting to determine their own futures. North Korea hasn't had a revolution because the state has kept such tight control over the populace. Not that it matters because the personality cult and indoctrination has been so effective.

Maybe outsiders are wrong and all is well in NK.

Well that's bullshit from the start because many people have been into North Korea and have seen the state the people live in from the start. Defectors have said how they had to eat grass and tree bark during the famine in the 90's.

[Costa Alegria]

And those, who aren't in the camps. according to one defector, are okay with their conditions.

Because they don't know any better. Few, if any, North Koreans actually know anything outside of their own, miniature, state created and controlled, universe.

[Herrebrugh]

I'm afraid I don't cut my hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle...

[Abatael]

It's a unified front. And there are more than three parties. There are at least five.

What's PRC?

What do you think? The People's Republic of China, as opposed to the Republic of China, also known as Taiwan.

It looks like you're having some temper tantrum over nothing. You should chill out.

[Abatael]

And those, who aren't in the camps. according to one defector, are okay with their conditions.

Because they don't know any better. Few, if any, North Koreans actually know anything outside of their own, miniature, state created and controlled, universe.

Yeah. But that doesn't detract from the fact that they are okay with what they have. (Because they don't fully understand what they could have.)

[Arumdaum]

And those, who aren't in the camps. according to one defector, are okay with their conditions.

Because they don't know any better. Few, if any, North Koreans actually know anything outside of their own, miniature, state created and controlled, universe.

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

[Arumdaum]

I'm afraid I don't cut my hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle...

neither do i :[

[Abatael]

Because they don't know any better. Few, if any, North Koreans actually know anything outside of their own, miniature, state created and controlled, universe.

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

Do you have a source for all of this?

[Arumdaum]

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

Do you have a source for all of this?

There was a study I found before, but I can't find it now...

However, there's this, as well as the actual book.

[Herrebrugh]

Because they don't know any better. Few, if any, North Koreans actually know anything outside of their own, miniature, state created and controlled, universe.

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

They should do their own Schwarze Kanal, to show how the other side is always lying while North Korea is nothing less than complete awesomesauce

[Abatael]

Do you have a source for all of this?

There was a study I found before, but I can't find it now...

However, there's this, as well as the actual book.

Okay. Thank you.

[The Joseon Dynasty]

There was a study I found before, but I can't find it now...

However, there's this, as well as the actual book.

Okay. Thank you.

Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader provides a historical context for the change occurring in North Korea, too, while The Cleanest Race is concerned with a more specific analysis of North Korea's evolving propaganda, and what we can infer from it about what goes on inside the country.

[Arumdaum]

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

They should do their own Schwarze Kanal, to show how the other side is always lying while North Korea is nothing less than complete awesomesauce

This reminds me of Goodbye Lenin, hehe.

[Maurepas]

I think they took them out of an 80s school yearbook, lol

[Sahrani DR]

Actually, a considerable amount of North Koreans, particularly after the collapse of the North Korean information cordon in the 1990's, have obtained access to foreign media, and there's even some who listen to South Korean radio.

Many North Koreans along the border have been to China, as the majority tend to come back, where they bring back things such as televisions, South Korean dramas, etc.

It's been considerable enough to evoke a change in North Korean propaganda to show South Koreans being richer than North Koreans.

Do you have a source for all of this?

I can also bring as source the book "Escape from Camp 14", the story of a person living in a dictatorship in the dictatorship, i.e. a concentration camp for political prisoners and their sons and grandsons in North Korea.

[Luveria]

What does shaving heads have to do with socialism? How is that involved with public or community ownership of the means of production?

People are also the means of production and the community (govt.) owns them.

? So by your reasoning, capitalist states are socialist because the government owns the people, by them being citizens? What the fuck?

Equality if the goal of socialism right? All are equal, there is no 'I' in 'We.'

No, that isn't the goal of socialism. Where did you get that idea from? Ayn Rand's books? If so, that would explain why you're so utterly ignorant about what socialism is and isn't.

Socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.

I'm not seeing anything about equality being the goal of socialism. Those libertarian goggles must be wonderful. You're mistakenly using the terms socialism and communism interchangeably. I suggest you stop doing that if you want anyone to take you seriously. Maybe you're not aware there are libertarians who know the difference between socialism and communism. Why can't you be one of those?

"The Anthem" by Ayn Rand tells us about a society in which all are equal. It is a socialist paradise.

See above.

The govt. has total control over all means of production, including the people.

Are you talking about socialism, or Stalinism? Quit moving the goalposts so much.

Have a read, it will prepare you for a socialist future:

http://www.noblesoul.com/orc/texts/anthem/complete.html

What socialist future? Should I start linking Marx's writings to prepare you for the communist future? Would that show you how ridiculous it is to be preaching anything by Ayn Rand?

[Las Palmeras]

No really...what about body hair? Is the Dear Leader also interested in the nether regions?