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Wind in the Willows
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:29 pm

Oceasia wrote:Some of them looks good.


I agree, I like #4 mans.

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Postby Abatael » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:36 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
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It's a totalitarian country enforcing totalitarian things.

That's totalitarianism, not conservatism or authoritarianism.


Well, it's both. Note that I used conservative with a lower case - in this case, it's being enforced to conserve the modesty, tidiness and regimentation that's thought to characterise their "martial society", and is meant to be the antithesis of Western individualism (which would be liberal in this context), which sort of undermines their style of governance.


This is totalitarian, in, honestly, no matter what sense, except, as you said, their distorted sense. To say it seeks to conserve the modest, tidiness and regimentation that is thought to characterize their "marital society" makes it a conservative policy is a flimsy argument. Let's be frank about it and call it what it is: totalitarianism.

While I'm not saying it doesn't seeks to conserve whatever it seeks to conserve, it is more easily identifiable as totalitarian and, therefore, should simply be called totalitarian, as opposed to conservative.
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:43 pm

Abatael wrote:
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Well, it's both. Note that I used conservative with a lower case - in this case, it's being enforced to conserve the modesty, tidiness and regimentation that's thought to characterise their "martial society", and is meant to be the antithesis of Western individualism (which would be liberal in this context), which sort of undermines their style of governance.


This is totalitarian, in, honestly, no matter what sense, except, as you said, their distorted sense. To say it seeks to conserve the modest, tidiness and regimentation that is thought to characterize their "marital society" makes it a conservative policy is a flimsy argument. Let's be frank about it and call it what it is: totalitarianism.

While I'm not saying it doesn't seeks to conserve whatever it seeks to conserve, it is more easily identifiable as totalitarian and, therefore, should simply be called totalitarian, as opposed to conservative.


It's totalitarianism because it's a very personal choice being controlled by the government. But it's conservative in what the government's choosing to control.
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Postby Abatael » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:49 pm

The Joseon Dynasty wrote:
Abatael wrote:
This is totalitarian, in, honestly, no matter what sense, except, as you said, their distorted sense. To say it seeks to conserve the modest, tidiness and regimentation that is thought to characterize their "marital society" makes it a conservative policy is a flimsy argument. Let's be frank about it and call it what it is: totalitarianism.

While I'm not saying it doesn't seeks to conserve whatever it seeks to conserve, it is more easily identifiable as totalitarian and, therefore, should simply be called totalitarian, as opposed to conservative.


It's totalitarianism because it's a very personal choice being controlled by the government. But it's conservative in what the government's choosing to control.


I guess what I'm trying to say is that it being conservative because it seeks to conserve their self-defined modesty is irrelevant unless you are debating that itself. It is simply totalitarian, yet you initially referred to it as conservative without even mentioning its totalitarianism. There's no point to that. It's needless. This thread wasn't made to highlight how they seek to conserve their "modesty." It was made to highlight the utter totalitarianism of the nation.
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The Joseon Dynasty
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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:59 pm

Abatael wrote:
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It's totalitarianism because it's a very personal choice being controlled by the government. But it's conservative in what the government's choosing to control.


I guess what I'm trying to say is that it being conservative because it seeks to conserve their self-defined modesty is irrelevant unless you are debating that itself. It is simply totalitarian, yet you initially referred to it as conservative without even mentioning its totalitarianism. There's no point to that. It's needless. This thread wasn't made to highlight how they seek to conserve their "modesty." It was made to highlight the utter totalitarianism of the nation.


Conservatism can only really exist in the context of self-definition, so it's completely relevant to define what it is they're looking to conserve. And gawking at how totalitarianism something is, is far more pointless than getting to the root of why they're choosing to implement it.
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Wintersun
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Postby Wintersun » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:00 pm

Many of the women's haircuts are outdated. The men's haircuts are decent, not as long as I'd like but not bad.

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Postby Warda » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:06 pm

Wintersun wrote:Many of the women's haircuts are outdated. The men's haircuts are decent, not as long as I'd like but not bad.

mens haircuts havent really changed in a few centuries.
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Postby Wintersun » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:40 pm

Warda wrote:
Wintersun wrote:Many of the women's haircuts are outdated. The men's haircuts are decent, not as long as I'd like but not bad.

mens haircuts havent really changed in a few centuries.


Pretty much. Just throw in a few longer styles like you see in Japan and South Korea and they'd be just fine.

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Postby Meryuma » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:27 pm

They're all so dated. It's practically 1962 over there.

Molsona wrote:North Korea sucks, but the government has the right idea on men's hairstyles. Though I don't like the female hairstyles, they're too short


None of the men's hairstyles are cute, though.

Warda wrote:
Wintersun wrote:Many of the women's haircuts are outdated. The men's haircuts are decent, not as long as I'd like but not bad.

mens haircuts havent really changed in a few centuries.


They totally have. Look at what happened in the late 60s.
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:33 pm

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I know someone that started to go bald when they were 17.


They were lucky. I first noticed on a skiing holiday when I was 15 and I suddenly got sunburned on my crown. By 20 I was fully bald.

Ouch. I'd hate to lose my hair, or even have it recede.
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Postby The Genoese Cromanatum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:18 am

Meryuma wrote:They're all so dated. It's practically 1962 over there.

Molsona wrote:North Korea sucks, but the government has the right idea on men's hairstyles. Though I don't like the female hairstyles, they're too short


None of the men's hairstyles are cute, though.

Warda wrote:mens haircuts havent really changed in a few centuries.


They totally have. Look at what happened in the late 60s.


I'd rather some of the North Korean hairstyles than the swag-inspired typical club-goer "Fo-Hawk"

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Postby Gigaverse » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:22 am

Wind in the Willows wrote:Some look alright, most of them suck though.

^ This. Add "thoroughly" between "suck" and "though".
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Postby Ermarian » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:32 am

Hornesia wrote:Does this surprise anyone?


I'm slightly surprised they get a choice at all...
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:39 am

The Genoese Cromanatum wrote:Now, I understand this may be very old news to some of you, however I figured it could spark an interesting debate. In North Korea, the state approves of only 28 choices of hairstyle, 18 of which can be chosen by females, and 10 that can be chosen by males.

I have two questions:

Do you approve of any of these hairstyles?

Do you believe the North Korean government should restrict what hairstyles the citizens can and cannot have?

I, myself, believe that North Korea should be able to do this. For some reason, the North Korean government's strict policies have made it's citizens love their country (educational brainwashing aside), and I admire that. Besides, some of those haircuts are pretty classy.


http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/


lolwut?

Also, all of the female haircuts look like crap. Some of the males' look ok
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:41 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
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They were lucky. I first noticed on a skiing holiday when I was 15 and I suddenly got sunburned on my crown. By 20 I was fully bald.

Ouch. I'd hate to lose my hair, or even have it recede.


Is it true that keeping your hair long can put a strain on your scalp and might cause premature baldness?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:10 am

Abatael wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:It's a conservative country enforcing conservative things. Not really surprising.


It's a totalitarian country enforcing totalitarian things.

That's totalitarianism, not conservatism or authoritarianism.

Since when did being totalitarian mean you can't be conservative or authoritarian?
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:17 am

All other haircut is of Western bourgeoisie travesty!!!!111

EDIT : It a blasphemy to the people's revolutionary effort!!!111
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:20 am

Republica Newland wrote:All other haircut is of Western bourgeoisie travesty!!!!111

EDIT : It a blasphemy to the people's revolutionary effort!!!111

I'm pretty sure all of those are hairstyles imported from the West, haha.
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:21 am

Arumdaum wrote:
Republica Newland wrote:All other haircut is of Western bourgeoisie travesty!!!!111

EDIT : It a blasphemy to the people's revolutionary effort!!!111

I'm pretty sure all of those are hairstyles imported from the West, haha.


Yes from like 100 years ago
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:22 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I'm pretty sure all of those are hairstyles imported from the West, haha.


Yes from like 100 years ago

Not really... :s
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:23 am

Arumdaum wrote:
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Yes from like 100 years ago

Not really... :s


..almost.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:24 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Not really... :s


..almost.

Again, not really, no.
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:27 am

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..almost.

Again, not really, no.


50 years behind the West in, well, pretty much all aspects is a highly optimistic estimation
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:28 am

Republica Newland wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:Again, not really, no.


50 years behind the West in, well, pretty much all aspects is a highly optimistic estimation

What do you know about NK anyway?
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Postby Republica Newland » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:31 am

Arumdaum wrote:
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50 years behind the West in, well, pretty much all aspects is a highly optimistic estimation

What do you know about NK anyway?


Earth's shithole ; few places compare, maybe some African countries.
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