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These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue"). What is your opinion of political correctness? (regarding a statement by a none-bigoted individual)

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue")

What do you think, and what do you mean by "politically correct"?

Farnhamia wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue")

What do you think, and what do you mean by "politically correct"?

^this

Farnhamia wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue")

What do you think, and what do you mean by "politically correct"?

I think the real question is what do you think?

Warda wrote:

Farnhamia wrote:What do you think, and what do you mean by "politically correct"?

I think the real question is what do you think?

Perhaps but it is considered a requirement for the thread-starter to give their opinion. And a definition of something like political correctness is absolutely needed before you can discuss it.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue")

I don't know what you mean by 'politically correct'.
I make an effort not to be an ass to people who don't deserve it and somehow that makes me 'politically correct' to some people.

One would hope that going out of ones' way to use inflammatory and/or offensive terminology would be seen as a bad thing, yes.

For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

1. Call someone white trash to their face and see what happens.
2. The two words don't carry the same weight to begin with.
3. Yes people who oppose equal rights for all should be called out as bigots, and that's not 'political correctness' that's called decency.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue")

Yes.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

None of the examples in your second paragraph actually have anything to do with "political correctness".

In my personal opinion, asking people who hold offensive opinions to sugar-coat their opinions is counter-productive. If a person has hateful and insulting beliefs, he should express them in the exact same words he thinks them, so that society can see just how ugly this person's beliefs are.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

I rather suspected that eventually we'd realize that 'political correctness' would actually just be people disagreeing with you...along with the usual complaining that one can't be a dick without people noticing.

Genivaria wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

1. Call someone white trash to their face and see what happens.
2. The two words don't carry the same weight to begin with.
3. Yes people who oppose equal rights for all should be called out as bigots, and that's not 'political correctness' that's called decency.

I've also never had anyone complain about me calling black people black people.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

Oh and I've never met any black person who insisted on being called 'African-American'. Ever.
It's too much work for EVERYONE involved.

Don't listen to everything that happens to be on the radio, but read instead, and these things will not trouble you.

Genivaria wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

Oh and I've never met any black person who insisted on being called 'African-American'. Ever.
It's too much work for EVERYONE involved.

That's why I say Afro-American

To a degree. It's obviously a good thing that it's considered socially unacceptable for people to run around calling each other 'nigger', 'faggot', etc.

But there are times when it goes too far, for example this ban on the word "brainstorming" for allegedly being offensive to people with epilepsy even though people with epilepsy don't find it remotely offensive.

Regnum Dominae wrote:To a degree. It's obviously a good thing that it's considered socially unacceptable for people to run around calling each other 'nigger', 'faggot', etc.

But there are times when it goes too far, for example this ban on the word "brainstorming" for allegedly being offensive to people with epilepsy even though people with epilepsy don't find it remotely offensive.

That's not political correctness, that's just stupidity.

Regnum Dominae wrote:To a degree. It's obviously a good thing that it's considered socially unacceptable for people to run around calling each other 'nigger', 'faggot', etc.

But there are times when it goes too far, for example this ban on the word "brainstorming" for allegedly being offensive to people with epilepsy even though people with epilepsy don't find it remotely offensive.

loled

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

Woooow, hold on, hold on.

If for about a century and a half in the US, whites would be natural slaves to African Americans, and would find themselves lynched in trees with crowds cheering. 'Goodbye White trash' Then sure, I would see them as equally offensive. Now, white trash certainly has a racist undertone, but mostly related to the trailer trash culture, whereas the word nigger, is one that has so much historical weight behind it and implications that the two words will never be the same as far as the weight of it goes. However, that being said, a significant part of modern African American culture sure has debased it's original implications and that has not done them any favors.

For the most part I am against political correctness, because it goes in stark contrast with critical thinking and often leaves poor standards accepted due to convenience sake, but these examples relate closer to poe's law strawmen than actual arguments against it. It's ok having ones heart in the right place, but the very worst one can do when it comes to going against political correctness is presenting it in a light without historical context.

Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

If it is something someone can't help, I won't be incorrect in their company (unless that is what we are doing, like when me and my friends play insult games).

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

A far better example. Never once seen any students sent home for wearing a US flag, in their own nation, during the 17th of may which is the Norwegian independence day.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

Yeah that was weird. My mom wouldn't stop complaining about it for months.
Course I never hear a peep from her about some of the shit Rick Perry's said or done so I don't listen to her much.

Herskerstad wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

A far better example. Never once seen any students sent home for wearing a US flag, in their own nation, during the 17th of may which is the Norwegian independence day.

To be fair, the Norwegians here don't make a big deal out of it, and you don't get free margaritas on that day during happy hour at the bar.