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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:45 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.

Yes yes, unfortunate but it happens.
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Postby Belligerent Alcoholics » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:46 pm

Someone somewhere is probably going to find an unpleasant truth offensive (like when former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams told western Christians who say they are personally persecuted to grow up). Fuck those people; everything not from their echo chamber probably offends that type. That said, going out of the way to be a wanker isn't going to get anyone far either. So the moral here is this - don't be a prick, but don't let someone with overly thin skin stop you from speaking a truth that needs to be spoken. Factual correctness, not political correctness.
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Postby Solaray » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:46 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.

Deport all Hispanics, right?

Only the illegal ones.
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:49 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.


She must have been one of the "evil racist Anglos". :p
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Postby Valkalan » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:50 pm

Political correctness is a ridiculous concept. Controversial views are deserving of attention whether or not they offend certain individuals. If the views being expressed are themselves ridiculous, then what do people have to fear should they be expressed in public?
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:50 pm

Valkalan wrote:Political correctness is a ridiculous concept. Controversial views are deserving of attention whether or not they offend certain individuals. If the views being expressed are themselves ridiculous, then what do people have to fear should they be expressed in public?

Not ridiculous, just overused.

As in overused underwear.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:50 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.

This didn't happen.
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Postby NERVUN » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:50 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.


She must have been one of the "evil racist Anglos". :p

Not sure, this is a threadjack though. Let's stop it now, m'k?
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Postby Shaggai » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:51 pm

plz to not turn thread into "bash mexican people" thread? thx
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:51 pm

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Vazdania wrote:I will say whatever I want to say. I don't care if someone is 'offended' by my dialogue. I think PC is stupid.

It's more misused then stupid Vazzy.

Misused?
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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:52 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:It's more misused then stupid Vazzy.

Misused?

Misused/overused.

It's a good concept (keeps minorities calm) but it gets used so often it rots at it's core.
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Postby Solaray » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:55 pm

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Seitonjin wrote:It's more misused then stupid Vazzy.

Misused?

It has it's (small) place. I don't like it perforating into the workplace(unless it's a government job, in which case it's pretty while obligatory) or into daily lives. Or television, or any form of entertainment/recreation. Also the whole "Holidays not Christmas" stuff is total nonsense. If I went into Saudi Arabia and asked them to say Happy Holidays instead of Happy Ramadan, do you think it would fly? Not that I'd want to anyway. It's their holiday and I have no desire to ruin it for them in any way.
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Postby Hathradic States » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:55 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.

Yes yes, unfortunate but it happens.

Whites do it to Hispanics, too.

And other whites. Like the ones who trash talk my Oma, calling her a Nazi.

She didn't cry, though, she hit them with her purse.

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Postby Seitonjin » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:57 pm

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Vazdania wrote:Misused?

It has it's (small) place. I don't like it perforating into the workplace(unless it's a government job, in which case it's pretty while obligatory) or into daily lives. Or television, or any form of entertainment/recreation. Also the whole "Holidays not Christmas" stuff is total nonsense. If I went into Saudi Arabia and asked them to say Happy Holidays instead of Happy Ramadan, do you think it would fly? Not that I'd want to anyway. It's their holiday and I have no desire to ruin it for them in any way.

Exactly. But use it when it is a necessity. Not blow it off ever three seconds right?
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Postby Solaray » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:57 pm

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Solaray wrote:It has it's (small) place. I don't like it perforating into the workplace(unless it's a government job, in which case it's pretty while obligatory) or into daily lives. Or television, or any form of entertainment/recreation. Also the whole "Holidays not Christmas" stuff is total nonsense. If I went into Saudi Arabia and asked them to say Happy Holidays instead of Happy Ramadan, do you think it would fly? Not that I'd want to anyway. It's their holiday and I have no desire to ruin it for them in any way.

Exactly. But use it when it is a necessity. Not blow it off ever three seconds right?

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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:00 am

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Seitonjin wrote:Exactly. But use it when it is a necessity. Not blow it off ever three seconds right?

Purdy much

So no, it shouldn't be eradicated. People just need to use their heads more and actually think and judge the situation on whether it requires PC or not.

Simple no? So don't abuse PC. It doesn't like being abused.
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Postby Brissia » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:04 am

OK, here's the thing: I, as someone who was born and still lives in America, am aware of the fact that America, due to it's late ban of slavery, experiences some sort of.....guilt as a nation towards all non-whites. Sadly, this 'guilt' has grown up, and spread it's seeds, such as this little thing called 'Black History Month'. You see, if we want all colors to be EQUAL, than do we really need a separate month to give our respects to just ONE color? Why not have Yellow History Month, White History Month, or Red History Month(for the Native Americans, which we actually NEARLY EXTERMINATED)?

To make a long story short, I say that political correctness is horrible. Black people are BLACK. French Fries, although wrongly named, are STILL FRENCH FRIES. Everything is what it is, and not some weird name you give it to cover up misdeeds of the past. The past is not something that we should brood over, but instead it is something that we should use to go forward, and to learn the mistakes of those before us.
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Postby Solaray » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:04 am

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Solaray wrote:Purdy much

So no, it shouldn't be eradicated. People just need to use their heads more and actually think and judge the situation on whether it requires PC or not.

Simple no? So don't abuse PC. It doesn't like being abused.

None of the whole jumping to conclusions and shouting out "RACIST" or "BIGOT". Yeah, it's a pretty simple idea. But many people seem to not be so good at grasping that. Like the people that sue when a co-worker says Merry Christmas. Although that could be more-so greed than PC. But then again, PC does allow it to happen.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:08 am

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Seitonjin wrote:So no, it shouldn't be eradicated. People just need to use their heads more and actually think and judge the situation on whether it requires PC or not.

Simple no? So don't abuse PC. It doesn't like being abused.

None of the whole jumping to conclusions and shouting out "RACIST" or "BIGOT". Yeah, it's a pretty simple idea. But many people seem to not be so good at grasping that. Like the people that sue when a co-worker says Merry Christmas. Although that could be more-so greed than PC. But then again, PC does allow it to happen.

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Really... If we can't grasp the idea of using things wisely we are really really dumb.
Brissia wrote:OK, here's the thing: I, as someone who was born and still lives in America, am aware of the fact that America, due to it's late ban of slavery, experiences some sort of.....guilt as a nation towards all non-whites. Sadly, this 'guilt' has grown up, and spread it's seeds, such as this little thing called 'Black History Month'. You see, if we want all colors to be EQUAL, than do we really need a separate month to give our respects to just ONE color? Why not have Yellow History Month, White History Month, or Red History Month(for the Native Americans, which we actually NEARLY EXTERMINATED)?

To make a long story short, I say that political correctness is horrible. Black people are BLACK. French Fries, although wrongly named, are STILL FRENCH FRIES. Everything is what it is, and not some weird name you give it to cover up misdeeds of the past. The past is not something that we should brood over, but instead it is something that we should use to go forward, and to learn the mistakes of those before us.

It's good to have it as a small and light side dish.

But when treated as the main course that's where we have people moaning about it's problems.

But no, it should not be thrown away in the wastebin if that is what you were saying.
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Postby Dezumanian Tribe » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:09 am

Political correctness only goes too far when you are trying to predict what people might find offensive rather than, you know, seeing if people actually DO find it offended. It would be much better if not for all the moral supremists who see themselves as the white knight crusaders of every "oppressed" minority everywhere...

Sure there are the people who go against the general opinion with frankly quite stupid ideas and waves away the massive opposition as "Political correctness", but that's just more stupid.
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Postby Brissia » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:12 am

Seitonjin wrote:
Solaray wrote:None of the whole jumping to conclusions and shouting out "RACIST" or "BIGOT". Yeah, it's a pretty simple idea. But many people seem to not be so good at grasping that. Like the people that sue when a co-worker says Merry Christmas. Although that could be more-so greed than PC. But then again, PC does allow it to happen.

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Brissia wrote:OK, here's the thing: I, as someone who was born and still lives in America, am aware of the fact that America, due to it's late ban of slavery, experiences some sort of.....guilt as a nation towards all non-whites. Sadly, this 'guilt' has grown up, and spread it's seeds, such as this little thing called 'Black History Month'. You see, if we want all colors to be EQUAL, than do we really need a separate month to give our respects to just ONE color? Why not have Yellow History Month, White History Month, or Red History Month(for the Native Americans, which we actually NEARLY EXTERMINATED)?

To make a long story short, I say that political correctness is horrible. Black people are BLACK. French Fries, although wrongly named, are STILL FRENCH FRIES. Everything is what it is, and not some weird name you give it to cover up misdeeds of the past. The past is not something that we should brood over, but instead it is something that we should use to go forward, and to learn the mistakes of those before us.

It's good to have it as a small and light side dish.

But when treated as the main course that's where we have people moaning about it's problems.

But no, it should not be thrown away in the wastebin if that is what you were saying.

I'd rather have it thrown away than have it overused by those who don't have the intelligence or understanding to use it in the right way and in the right doses.
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Postby Seitonjin » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:15 am

Brissia wrote:
Seitonjin wrote:asdfghjkl;' HUMANS ARE IDIOTS D: D: D:

Really... If we can't grasp the idea of using things wisely we are really really dumb.

It's good to have it as a small and light side dish.

But when treated as the main course that's where we have people moaning about it's problems.

But no, it should not be thrown away in the wastebin if that is what you were saying.

I'd rather have it thrown away than have it overused by those who don't have the intelligence or understanding to use it in the right way and in the right doses.

But it's a yummy side dish.

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:At my school, white kids are often given a hard time by the hispanic students. I'm as white as frosty the snowman, and iv'e never been harrassed. Why? According to this one "cholo" student, it is because I am Russian, and Russians are not white. What the hell does that mean?! I'm the whitest kid in town!

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I live next door to a 90 women. She is such a sweet lady; she knits quilts for our family, gives us homemade Christmas presents, etc...

Any ways, every morning, she gets up at 5am to hang old glory on her flagpole. There was this one time where these punk ass mexican kids drove by while she was raising the flag. They stopped in front of house, laughed at her, called her names and cursed at her in Spanish, before throwing a beer bottle on her driveway and driving off, cusing the poor lady to cry.

Again I will ask you: are you here to converse or just toss random comments, because this shit sounds extremely dubious. Mexican gangs do not fuck with old ladies, because it's against their code
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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

A group of white kids come to school on Cinco de Mayo wearing American flag t shirts like it was coordinated, they also choose to put a makeshift American flag on a tree and shout USA, USA!

That doesn't seem like they're intentionally trolling? Deciding they're all gonna wear American flag shirts on that day and raise a makeshift flag on a tree while chanting loudly USA, USA, USA, as a sort of in your face reaction to Mexican patriotism? Seems fairly trollish to me, and it wasn't even them getting in trouble for wearing the shirt, it was causing hostile reactions, so they were told to turn their shirts inside out, they refused, so they were sent home. It was more about ensuring the safety of the kids since threats were made, it was about the kids refusing to turn their shirts inside out and it was about the kids essentially trolling.

So no, not this bullshit about political correctness gone mad.
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