Is It Correct To Be Politically Correct?

[Genivaria]

Please tell me when I used the word "silence". Can't find it? Do you know why? Because I did not say anything you are accusing me of. Don't base an assumption of an inferance.

Oh please.

@Ceannairceach (sorry, I can't quote you for some odd reason)

How is publicly opposing gay marriage wrong? Does the First Amendment not apply to those who don't like gay marriage? Or are you bigoted to those who have different beliefs?

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Please tell me when I used the word "silence". Can't find it? Do you know why? Because I did not say anything you are accusing me of. Don't base an assumption of an inferance.

You questioned if the first amendment applies to those who are against homosexuality. That implies that someone is trying to silence them.

No, it implies that I was asking you a question so you could elaborate yourself

[Ceannairceach]

You questioned if the first amendment applies to those who are against homosexuality. That implies that someone is trying to silence them.

No, it implies that I was asking you a question so you could elaborate yourself

You pointedly asked if I was a bigot and if I was interested in circumventing the constitution to silence those who disagree with me. That isn't a fair question.

[New Randia]

i think it is a good thing to speak without causing intentional offense unless someone has done something specifically to deserve it. I also note that i am quite often offensive for no good reason (and therefore not perfect).

i think it is a bad thing to allow political correctness to get in the way of factual information exchange, to allow being P/C to make certain topics off limits, or to allow people whom have an agenda to try to frame the conversation in their favor using "political correctness" without calling them on it.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Then you say "no" to both questions, and then explain yourself.

[Ceannairceach]

Then you say "no" to both questions, and then explain yourself.

Don't ask shitty questions, and I will.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Then you say "no" to both questions, and then explain yourself.

Don't ask shitty questions, and I will.

Perhaps I wanted to know if those were the reasons why you have your beliefs? I did not intend to accuse you of anything.

[Mushet]

No. The right to offend is an essential part of freedom of expression. Likewise, if people are spouting complete bullshit due to this, retorts and the public exposition of their idiocy is protected, conversely, by the freedom of expression. So the right itself is useful for all - bar those with such a thin skin, that they believe themselves infallible and so worthy of forcing their opinions of what is tasteful or not onto others.

And who ever saud we're going to use the law to censor people from saying offensive things, when people say extremely bigoted shit we tell them off for saying bigoted shit, who's forcing their opinions?

[Mushet]

PCers assert there ain't no such thing as PC.
Riddle me ree: if Smoking Ban ain't PC, if cancelling Christmas and calling it "Winterval" ain't PC,
do that mean that smoking ban and winterval are Politically WRONG?

Ain't no such thing as PC gone mad. PC is a very efficient system for Aristocrats, Bankers, Priests etc to persecute Workers, Peasants etc. If PC ever favoured Peasants v Aristos, that would be PC gone mad. PC always supports Aristos so PC is always sane.

How is social pressure not to express bigoted views about underprivileged group not favoring the "peasants" and instead favoring the "Aristos"?

[Cannot think of a name]

Then you say "no" to both questions, and then explain yourself.

You do not understand the First Amendment or how it is applied.

[Galborg]

PCers assert there ain't no such thing as PC.
Riddle me ree: if Smoking Ban ain't PC, if cancelling Christmas and calling it "Winterval" ain't PC,
do that mean that smoking ban and winterval are Politically WRONG?

Ain't no such thing as PC gone mad. PC is a very efficient system for Aristocrats, Bankers, Priests etc to persecute Workers, Peasants etc. If PC ever favoured Peasants v Aristos, that would be PC gone mad. PC always supports Aristos so PC is always sane.

How is social pressure not to express bigoted views about underprivileged group not favoring the "peasants" and instead favoring the "Aristos"?

PC forbids Peasants to burn Tobacco.
PC encourages Priests to burn Witches.

PC is Aristo privilege.

[Farnhamia]

How is social pressure not to express bigoted views about underprivileged group not favoring the "peasants" and instead favoring the "Aristos"?

PC forbids Peasants to burn Tobacco.
PC encourages Priests to burn Witches.

PC is Aristo privilege.

Wiki sayeth:

Political correctness (adjectivally, politically correct; both forms commonly abbreviated to PC) is a term that refers to language, ideas, or policies that address perceived or actual discrimination against or alienation of politically, socially or economically disadvantaged groups. The term usually implies that these social considerations are excessive or of a purely "political" nature. These groups most prominently include those defined by gender, race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation and disability.

Historically, the term was a colloquialism used in the early-to-mid 20th century by Communists and Socialists in political debates, referring pejoratively to the Communist "party line", which provided for "correct" positions on many matters of politics. The term was adopted in the later 20th century by the New Left, applied with a certain humour to condemn sexist or racist conduct as "not politically correct". By the early 1990s, the term was adopted by US conservatives as a pejorative term for all manner of attempts to promote multiculturalism and identity politics, particularly in terms of attempts to introduce new terms that sought to leave behind discriminatory baggage attached to older ones, and conversely to try to make older ones taboo. This phenomenon was driven by a combination of the linguistic turn in academia and the rise of identity politics both inside and outside it. These led to attempts to change social reality by changing language, with attempts at making language more culturally inclusive and gender-neutral. These attempts (associated with the political left) led to a backlash from the right, partly against the attempts to change language, and partly against the underlying identity politics itself. "Political correctness" became a convenient rightwing label for both of these things it rejected.

In contemporary usage, the terms PC, politically correct, and political correctness are pejorative descriptors, whereas, the term politically incorrect is used by opponents of PC as an implicitly positive self-description, as in the cases of the conservative, topical book-series The Politically Incorrect Guide, and the liberal, television talk-show program Politically Incorrect.

I don't see many Aristos and Peasants in there.

[Mushet]

How is social pressure not to express bigoted views about underprivileged group not favoring the "peasants" and instead favoring the "Aristos"?

PC forbids Peasants to burn Tobacco.
PC encourages Priests to burn Witches.

PC is Aristo privilege.

"PC" does not forbid "Peasants" to burn tobacco.

This talk of "peasants", "Aristos", complaining about "PC" and your nation category makes me wonder if you're one of those so called "socialists" that think that talking about any oppression other than proletarian vs bourgeouis is divisive, is this true?

[Conservative Idealism]

These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue"). What is your opinion of political correctness? (regarding a statement by a none-bigoted individual)

You mean political correctness in the sense that everything said publicly must not offend that tiny minority capable of seeing offense in everything said publicly?

No, I do not believe that is correct. The concept of being offended offers too much power to dubiously-victimized people; that does not mean, however, that the concept of being offending should be ignored.

[Galborg]

PC: majority is verboten to persecute minority

That Virtue is twisted into Bankers are minority
Workers are majority
Therefore ALL law must enshrine Banker privileges.

[The Rich Port]

... I thought "black" was politically correct.

Why do I get the feeling OP has no idea what political correctness is and what people actually want from it?

[Regnum Dominae]

PC: majority is verboten to persecute minority

That Virtue is twisted into Bankers are minority
Workers are majority
Therefore ALL law must enshrine Banker privileges.

What is this even supposed to mean?

[Warda]

... I thought "black" was politically correct.

Why do I get the feeling OP has no idea what political correctness is and what people actually want from it?

african-colored-negro-black-african american

[Cannot think of a name]

... I thought "black" was politically correct.

Why do I get the feeling OP has no idea what political correctness is and what people actually want from it?

african-colored-negro-black-african american

You're trying way too hard.

[Warda]

african-colored-negro-black-african american

You're trying way too hard.

i was answering his question on the evolvement of the phrase used as accecptable to describe sub-saharan africans

[The Remean Lordship]

When it comes to free speech, I am pretty liberal, and I support what Voltaire's Ideas. He is famous for saying (I am paraphrasing here) "I don't agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it." but I think that being politically correct is a good thing that one is discouraged from insulting groups of ethnic minorities, as it supports cohesiveness in a society. Until all ethnic misgivings are gone, political correctness should say.

[Old Appalachia]

In short:
Politically Correct - associated with left wing thinking
Politically Incorrect - associated with right wing thinking

My definition of it is this:
Politically Correct - A term used for whiney, overly-sensitive pansies who need everything sugar-coated for them.

[The Rich Port]

... I thought "black" was politically correct.

Why do I get the feeling OP has no idea what political correctness is and what people actually want from it?

african-colored-negro-black-african american

Normal people still use "black".

I have never heard anyone in polite company use the term "African-American".

Besides, aren't there Africans who are also white?

[Warda]

african-colored-negro-black-african american

Normal people still use "black".

I have never heard anyone in polite company use the term "African-American".

Besides, aren't there Africans who are also white?

Yup, but really if you use any of those your probably ok.

[Blasveck]

african-colored-negro-black-african american

Normal people still use "black".

I have never heard anyone in polite company use the term "African-American".

Besides, aren't there Africans who are also white?

South Africans, usually.