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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:50 am

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:These days one must be careful of what comes out of their mouths, and make an effort to be politically correct. Is it bad not to be politically correct, and vice versa? (when I say politically correct, I mean, for example, the public backlash a politician would recieved if he or she "offended someone through dialogue"). What is your opinion of political correctness? (regarding a statement by a none-bigoted individual)

I think it is an excellent idea to think before you speak. there is no sense in supporting other people's "right" to thoughtlessly offend others.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:55 am

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Postby TaQud » Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:05 am

depends on what you are being politically correct on, IMO
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Postby Mushet » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:59 am

Euronion wrote:I don't care for it. I hate it when people change things for the purpose of being politically correct, like B.C.E. and C.E. instead of B.C. and A.D., if you are going to go by our calendar than be honest in the historical fact that Jesus was thought to have died in the year 0 A.D. and that is why monks and chroniclers of history in Christian places used the terms. B.C.E. means "Before the Common Era" and C.E. means "Common Era" so you are basically saying that the death of Jesus triggered the Common Era, but you are going to relabel the entire timeline so instead of "Before Christ" and "After Death" we have "Before the Common Era" and "the Common Era."

I call black people black people, not African American on purpose, why? because not all black people come from Africa!

I call "Native Americans" American Indians on purpose as well, why? because they are not native to the North American continent anymore than someone who was European and born in America is. They are immigrants as well who migrated across the bearing strait and settled here, they are not native to the continent, they are humans just like us who merely got there a lot earlier than us, they are not natives nor should they be called natives.

One thing that really ticked me off was that whole Paula Deen scandal, I mean the woman admits to saying one word several years ago, and she gets fired, her restaurants get shut down, etc. I mean come on, I hear black people call eachother "nigger" all the time, it's almost as synonymous as "brother" and "homie" (and no, I'm not suggesting all black people talk like that, but that many black people don't seem to have a problem with it).

As for publically speaking against gay marriage, I do it any time it is brought up, I don't hide my views. I may be called names and be hated for it but I'll be damned if I'll be silenced or bullied and scoffed into changing my views because it is not deemed as socially acceptable by a formal minority of the population.

That;s wrong, AD does not mean after death it means Anno Domini, and the scientists were just going by the most influential calendar at the time and changed it up to make it not so religious, because they're scientists not theologians, CE and BCE makes a lot more sense than BC and AD of which many people, including yourself, don't know what it actually means.

Yes we are more native to the continent than European immigrants, we were the first humans here and were here for millenia, I mean if everyone did indeed migrate from somewhere millenia ago and it doesn't count to make them native, doesn't that take away the whole meaning of the word? It's bullshit semantics wrapping up bigotry.

She admitted that she said that same word several times since then, and her getting fired was just teh market speaking, the companies felt she was too much of a liability for her controversy and let her go. And you do realize the difference in context between Paula Deen using it the way she did and black people addressing eachother right?

You get called on your views probably because they're stupid and bigoted, not because they're "politically incorrect" whatever that is supposed to mean.
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Postby Vicswampia » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:12 am

If being politically correct is not trying to be edgy and hurting people's feelings I guess there's nothing wrong with it.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:17 am

Of course not, it simply protects those with unacceptable views.

Edit: 'unacceptable' here meaning deplorable/immoral/racist/etc. not actually literally 'unacceptable'.
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Postby Partybus » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:03 pm

I try my best to not filter my language (political correctness bad). But at the same time, I definitely go out of my way not to be an oafish, offensive, dick (political correctness good). So I guess I'm sort of on the fence, but also, once I gauge the crowd I am in, I usually adapt to whatever seems to be that particular energy regarding sensitivity...That is why I frequent my local watering hole, because as the saying there goes..."Leave your feelings at the door." No filter needed (up to a point of course). I knew I was a regular when the really offensive insults began to fly in my direction, I got a little misty the first time I was told to fuck off :)

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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:13 pm

I was at a swim meet today, and just for fun, I yelled "I love Jesus". The looks I got were very negative... yikes.
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Postby Three Lands » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:21 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I was at a swim meet today, and just for fun, I yelled "I love Jesus". The looks I got were very negative... yikes.


Because yelling crap that out of context makes you look crazy or deliberately disruptive and annoying.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:22 pm

Three Lands wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I was at a swim meet today, and just for fun, I yelled "I love Jesus". The looks I got were very negative... yikes.


Because yelling crap that out of context makes you look crazy or deliberately disruptive and annoying.

And has nothing per se to do with the topic of the thread.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:23 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I was at a swim meet today, and just for fun, I yelled "I love Jesus". The looks I got were very negative... yikes.

Screaming random shit like a loon will get you funny looks, no surprise.

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Postby Tulija » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:27 pm

No. The right to offend is an essential part of freedom of expression. Likewise, if people are spouting complete bullshit due to this, retorts and the public exposition of their idiocy is protected, conversely, by the freedom of expression. So the right itself is useful for all - bar those with such a thin skin, that they believe themselves infallible and so worthy of forcing their opinions of what is tasteful or not onto others.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:28 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I was at a swim meet today, and just for fun, I yelled "I love Jesus". The looks I got were very negative... yikes.

Screaming random shit like a loon will get you funny looks, no surprise.

Not exactly. I have yelled out different things before, and never recieved the same reaction.
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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Screaming random shit like a loon will get you funny looks, no surprise.

Not exactly. I have yelled out different things before, and never recieved the same reaction.

Try Allahu Akbar then.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:32 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:For example, calling a man "African American" rather than "black", shunning those who use the word "fat" to describe an overweight person, and how its considered by many to be incorrect to pubicly oppose gay marriage.

I am against political correctness, due to its biased nature. One can say "white trash" but never "nigger". One can support homosexuality, but will be protested if their against it, etc...

White trash is just as unacceptable as nigger. Having been referred to as such due to my variable economic status, it can be just as hurtful as anything else. Fat is offensive; Those people already have enough on their plate, they don't need severe stress due to rudeness as well. And it is incorrect to publicly oppose gay marriage.

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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:33 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Not exactly. I have yelled out different things before, and never recieved the same reaction.

Try Allahu Akbar then.

I want don't want to be killed by an angry mob! (pretty sad that Islam gets such a bad rap).
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:42 pm

@Ceannairceach (sorry, I can't quote you for some odd reason)

How is publicly opposing gay marriage wrong? Does the First Amendment not apply to those who don't like gay marriage? Or are you bigoted to those who have different beliefs?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:43 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:@Ceannairceach (sorry, I can't quote you for some odd reason)

How is publicly opposing gay marriage wrong? Does the First Amendment not apply to those who don't like gay marriage? Or are you bigoted to those who have different beliefs?

Wow. Please show where he said that people who oppose same-sex marriage should be silenced.

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Postby Quackquackhonk » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:44 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Is it bad not to be politically correct...?


is it bad to be polite?

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:47 pm

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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:@Ceannairceach (sorry, I can't quote you for some odd reason)

How is publicly opposing gay marriage wrong? Does the First Amendment not apply to those who don't like gay marriage? Or are you bigoted to those who have different beliefs?

Wow. Please show where he said that people who oppose same-sex marriage should be silenced.

Indeed. I never said such a thing. I merely noted, rather correctly, that those who publicly appose gay marriage are wrong.

And intolerance against intolerance is not hypocritical.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:47 pm

Quackquackhonk wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Is it bad not to be politically correct...?


is it bad to be polite?

Really now; It's not political correctness, it's being fucking polite.

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Postby Lordieth » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:51 pm

Like anything, it has its place, and as long as it isn't abused, or taken to absurdity, then I don't have any objections to political correctness. To be honest, it mostly gets a bad wrap here because of idiots like the Daily Mail who once a week claim "political correctness gone mad!" and cite some stupid story about some office where they've banned ham or not put up christmas trees because of dem ebil muslims rabble rabble rabble.

If by political correctness, you mean words that by general consensus are considered more appropriate for use in polite society, then yes. Changing the name of things just in case they offend people? Utter nonsense. This is usually more of a local level thing, and again relates to local stories which the media then blow out of all proportion. I honestly can't think of a single major political correctness story that's particularly bothered me.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:56 pm

Please tell me when I used the word "silence". Can't find it? Do you know why? Because I did not say anything you are accusing me of. Don't base an assumption of an inferance.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:59 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Please tell me when I used the word "silence". Can't find it? Do you know why? Because I did not say anything you are accusing me of. Don't base an assumption of an inferance.

You questioned if the first amendment applies to those who are against homosexuality. That implies that someone is trying to silence them.

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