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Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:And also, does anyone remember the whole "freedom fries" thing?

That wasn't what you would call political correctness, that was the US government trolling France over some petty political shit, it had nothing to do with preventing offense, it was intended as a fuck you to the French government.

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:At my school, white kids are often given a hard time by the hispanic students. I'm as white as frosty the snowman, and iv'e never been harrassed. Why? According to this one "cholo" student, it is because I am Russian, and Russians are not white. What the hell does that mean?! I'm the whitest kid in town!

White is a social construct, there was a substantial amount of time when the Russians weren't allowed into that little white social club and many still don't see Russians as white in America.

Mushet wrote:

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Or the California students who were sent home for wearing American flag Tshirts on Cinco De Mayo.

A group of white kids come to school on Cinco de Mayo wearing American flag t shirts like it was coordinated, they also choose to put a makeshift American flag on a tree and shout USA, USA!

That doesn't seem like they're intentionally trolling? Deciding they're all gonna wear American flag shirts on that day and raise a makeshift flag on a tree while chanting loudly USA, USA, USA, as a sort of in your face reaction to Mexican patriotism? Seems fairly trollish to me, and it wasn't even them getting in trouble for wearing the shirt, it was causing hostile reactions, so they were told to turn their shirts inside out, they refused, so they were sent home. It was more about ensuring the safety of the kids since threats were made, it was about the kids refusing to turn their shirts inside out and it was about the kids essentially trolling.

So no, not this bullshit about political correctness gone mad.

Like how mexicans wave mexican flags during fourth of july?

NO

Brissia wrote:OK, here's the thing: I, as someone who was born and still lives in America, am aware of the fact that America, due to it's late ban of slavery, experiences some sort of.....guilt as a nation towards all non-whites. Sadly, this 'guilt' has grown up, and spread it's seeds, such as this little thing called 'Black History Month'. You see, if we want all colors to be EQUAL, than do we really need a separate month to give our respects to just ONE color? Why not have Yellow History Month, White History Month, or Red History Month(for the Native Americans, which we actually NEARLY EXTERMINATED)?

To make a long story short, I say that political correctness is horrible. Black people are BLACK. French Fries, although wrongly named, are STILL FRENCH FRIES. Everything is what it is, and not some weird name you give it to cover up misdeeds of the past. The past is not something that we should brood over, but instead it is something that we should use to go forward, and to learn the mistakes of those before us.

Almost every month of the year is white history month, even black history month, they'll talk a bit about the civil rights movement but mostly it's Euro-American history. Even with the civil rights movement it's about black people in relation to Euro-American society. They ain't teaching about Mali or the Igbo in most history classes. And that freedom fries shit wasn't "political correctness".

Sierra Lobo wrote:

Mushet wrote:A group of white kids come to school on Cinco de Mayo wearing American flag t shirts like it was coordinated, they also choose to put a makeshift American flag on a tree and shout USA, USA!

That doesn't seem like they're intentionally trolling? Deciding they're all gonna wear American flag shirts on that day and raise a makeshift flag on a tree while chanting loudly USA, USA, USA, as a sort of in your face reaction to Mexican patriotism? Seems fairly trollish to me, and it wasn't even them getting in trouble for wearing the shirt, it was causing hostile reactions, so they were told to turn their shirts inside out, they refused, so they were sent home. It was more about ensuring the safety of the kids since threats were made, it was about the kids refusing to turn their shirts inside out and it was about the kids essentially trolling.

So no, not this bullshit about political correctness gone mad.

Like how mexicans wave mexican flags during fourth of july?

I live in what you might call East LA, and I've never seen that happen.

Mushet wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:Like how mexicans wave mexican flags during fourth of july?

I live in what you might call East LA, and I've never seen that happen.

I saw it happen.

Mushet wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:Like how mexicans wave mexican flags during fourth of july?

I live in what you might call East LA, and I've never seen that happen.

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on a lot of this as well.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

Mushet wrote:I live in what you might call East LA, and I've never seen that happen.

I saw it happen.

So an isolated incident instead of a trend that's actually significant, because if it was a significant trend among Mexican Americans I'm sure I would be noticing it in the epicenter of Mexican-American culture

Sierra Lobo wrote:

Mushet wrote:I live in what you might call East LA, and I've never seen that happen.

I saw it happen.

I've seen whites with swastika tattoos.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:I saw it happen.

I've seen whites with swastika tattoos.

I wonder why.

Mushet wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:I saw it happen.

So an isolated incident instead of a trend that's actually significant, because if it was a significant trend among Mexican Americans I'm sure I would be noticing it in the epicenter of Mexican-American culture

Same, same. As counter point to the students wearing American flags during cinco de mayo. This event did not even registered on me until I read the topic at hand.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:
I've seen whites with swastika tattoos.

I wonder why.

It should be noted that they get along quite well with Mexicans out here on the West Coast.

It's nice to not have politicians and the media call black people "niggers," Chinese people "chinks," etc.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:I wonder why.

It should be noted that they get along quite well with Mexicans out here on the West Coast.

Tats is all the fad here in the west coast. It break down barriers.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

Mushet wrote:So an isolated incident instead of a trend that's actually significant, because if it was a significant trend among Mexican Americans I'm sure I would be noticing it in the epicenter of Mexican-American culture

Same, same. As counter point to the students wearing American flags during cinco de mayo. This event did not even registered on me until I read the topic at hand.

I was pointing out how that wasn't about "political correctness" and how the kids weren't all innocent either, which is germane to the thread topic. You on the other hand are merely chiming in with an anecdotal incident and not discussing political correctness merely making a "counterpoint" to something that you didn't seem to catch the point of.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:It should be noted that they get along quite well with Mexicans out here on the West Coast.

Tats is all the fad here in the west coast. It break down barriers.

Yeah, uh, depends on the tat.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:Tats is all the fad here in the west coast. It break down barriers.

Yeah, uh, depends on the tat.

You got me there. Gangs do have some etiquette to follow. Having the wrong tat in a wrong neighborhood could cause you dearly.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:Yeah, uh, depends on the tat.

You got me there. Gangs do have some etiquette to follow. Having the wrong tat in a wrong neighborhood could cause you dearly.

Having a tat you didn't earn is also A Bad Thing.

Mushet wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:Same, same. As counter point to the students wearing American flags during cinco de mayo. This event did not even registered on me until I read the topic at hand.

I was pointing out how that wasn't about "political correctness" and how the kids weren't all innocent either, which is germane to the thread topic. You on the other hand are merely chiming in with an anecdotal incident and not discussing political correctness merely making a "counterpoint" to something that you didn't seem to catch the point of.

Tit for tat. Mexican flags waved on fourth of july did not caused any overt hostility. American flag shirts on cinco de mayo caused booing and threats resulting to the students wearing them to be sent home.

It quite illustrate, where political correctness is expected.

Arumdaum wrote:It's nice to not have politicians and the media call black people "niggers," Chinese people "chinks," etc.

Why not? When you think about it, all "nigger" means is "black person". It's a synonym, just that people arbitrarily decided nigger was rude and black person(or, god forbid, African-American individual) wasn't. Maybe there's an alternate universe where it's politically correct to say nigger and African-American individual is only used by trolls on the internet.

I don't care for it. I hate it when people change things for the purpose of being politically correct, like B.C.E. and C.E. instead of B.C. and A.D., if you are going to go by our calendar than be honest in the historical fact that Jesus was thought to have died in the year 0 A.D. and that is why monks and chroniclers of history in Christian places used the terms. B.C.E. means "Before the Common Era" and C.E. means "Common Era" so you are basically saying that the death of Jesus triggered the Common Era, but you are going to relabel the entire timeline so instead of "Before Christ" and "After Death" we have "Before the Common Era" and "the Common Era."

I call black people black people, not African American on purpose, why? because not all black people come from Africa!

I call "Native Americans" American Indians on purpose as well, why? because they are not native to the North American continent anymore than someone who was European and born in America is. They are immigrants as well who migrated across the bearing strait and settled here, they are not native to the continent, they are humans just like us who merely got there a lot earlier than us, they are not natives nor should they be called natives.

One thing that really ticked me off was that whole Paula Deen scandal, I mean the woman admits to saying one word several years ago, and she gets fired, her restaurants get shut down, etc. I mean come on, I hear black people call eachother "nigger" all the time, it's almost as synonymous as "brother" and "homie" (and no, I'm not suggesting all black people talk like that, but that many black people don't seem to have a problem with it).

As for publically speaking against gay marriage, I do it any time it is brought up, I don't hide my views. I may be called names and be hated for it but I'll be damned if I'll be silenced or bullied and scoffed into changing my views because it is not deemed as socially acceptable by a formal minority of the population.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

Mushet wrote:I was pointing out how that wasn't about "political correctness" and how the kids weren't all innocent either, which is germane to the thread topic. You on the other hand are merely chiming in with an anecdotal incident and not discussing political correctness merely making a "counterpoint" to something that you didn't seem to catch the point of.

Tit for tat. Mexican flags waved on fourth of july did not caused any overt hostility. American flag shirts on cinco de mayo caused booing and threats resulting to the students wearing them to be sent home.

It quite illustrate, where political correctness is expected.

It illustrates that gavas from the suburbs aren't about to get down with the brown. You get jumped for waving the U.S. flag on Cinco de Mayo, it's cuz Mexicans are jumping your ass, not because the PC brigade told them it's okay for them to jump you but not for you to jump them.

The Parkus Empire wrote:

Sierra Lobo wrote:Tit for tat. Mexican flags waved on fourth of july did not caused any overt hostility. American flag shirts on cinco de mayo caused booing and threats resulting to the students wearing them to be sent home.

It quite illustrate, where political correctness is expected.

It illustrates that gavas from the suburbs aren't about to get down with the brown. You get jumped for waving the U.S. flag on Cinco de Mayo, it's cuz Mexicans are jumping your ass, not because the PC brigade told them it's okay for them to jump you but not for you to jump them.

Concise. Who says the PC brigade is fair.

Sierra Lobo wrote:

The Parkus Empire wrote:It illustrates that gavas from the suburbs aren't about to get down with the brown. You get jumped for waving the U.S. flag on Cinco de Mayo, it's cuz Mexicans are jumping your ass, not because the PC brigade told them it's okay for them to jump you but not for you to jump them.

Concise. Who says the PC brigade is fair.

>implying that the Mexicans jumping you are the PC brigade and not in fact the same sort of Mexicans who use the word "niggers" to refer to blacks